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Morality in Bible stories that you don't understand

Galbanum can be used for purification and protection. It has quite a vehement energy and may be useful for banishing negative energies in exorcism rituals. It may be used for shamanic journeys to the Underworld and can be useful at times when the soul is in a process of transformation and change.
Galbanum has an intense green fragrance with woody and balsamic elements. Often described as earthy or forest-like, this fragrance compound is valued for its ability to impart a rich, spicy green scent.

Onycha- A common ingredient in the Biblical incense mixtures, Onycha is an ancient Greek word for "Finger Nail". This is the door membrane of a snail-like mollusk found in the Red Sea and imported from Oman. It is a powerful aromatic "fixative" - fixating all aromatics in a mixture together as one.

Frankincense is a hardened gum-like material (resin) that comes from the trunk of the Boswellia tree. People use its oil on the skin and in aromatherapy. Frankincense oil seems to kill some types of bacteria and fungi (yeasts). It is commonly used as a fragrance in soaps, lotions, and perfumes.

Stacte (Greek: στακτή, staktē) and nataph (Hebrew: נָטָף, nataf) are names used for one component of the Solomon's Temple incense, the Ketoret, specified in the Book of Exodus (Exodus 30:34). Variously translated to the Greek term (AMP: Exodus 30:34) or to an unspecified "gum resin" or similar (NIV: Exodus 30:34), it was to be mixed in equal parts with onycha (prepared from certain vegetable resins or seashell parts), galbanum and mixed with pure frankincense and they were to "beat some of it very small"[1] for burning on the altar of the tabernacle.

This incense was considered restricted for sacred purposes honoring Yahweh; the trivial or profane use of it was punishable by exile, as laid out in Exodus 30:34–38 (KJV).

The Hebrew word nataf means "drop", corresponding to "drops of water" (Job 36:27). The Septuagint translates nataf as stacte, a Greek word meaning "an oozing substance," which refers to various viscous liquids, including myrrh.[2]

Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel explained, "Stacte is simply the sap that drips from the tapping of the wood of the balsam tree" (Kerithot 6a). It is not exactly clear from what plant nataf was derived, however, it most likely was a myrrh extract of the highest grade or the light resin which exudes naturally from the myrrh tree before harvest.[3] Alternately it may have been myrrh scented with styrax (Styrax officinalis or Styrax benzoin, a close relative of and of the same genus as Styrax officinalis)[4][5] or opobalsamum[6] (rare type of myrrh tree mentioned frequently in ancient Jewish writings as "balm" or "balsam").
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stacte

Storax (Latin: storax; Greek: στύραξ, stúrax),[1][2][3][4][5] often commercially sold as styrax, is a natural resin isolated from the wounded bark of Liquidambar orientalis Mill. (Asia Minor) and Liquidambar styraciflua L. (Central America) (Hamamelidaceae).[6] It is distinct from benzoin (also called "storax"), a similar resin obtained from the Styracaceae plant family.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storax_balsam
 
One can't be too careful when dealing with the gods, one wrong move and you are toast.
No kidding. God almost killed Moses out of the blue because he wasn't circumcised... and this was immediately after telling Moses to free the Hebrews. Yahweh needed some serious mental health intervention.

The odd thing was that Zipporah (a Midianite) saved the day with an impromptu circumcision of her son. Probably made for an uncomfortable continental breakfast the morning after.
 
One can't be too careful when dealing with the gods, one wrong move and you are toast.
No kidding. God almost killed Moses out of the blue because he wasn't circumcised... and this was immediately after telling Moses to free the Hebrews. Yahweh needed some serious mental health intervention.

The odd thing was that Zipporah (a Midianite) saved the day with an impromptu circumcision of her son. Probably made for an uncomfortable continental breakfast the morning after.

And then its the extra warning...

" After they were killed, Moses commanded Aaron’s two cousins, Mishael and Elzaphan, to carry the bodies outside the camp of Israel (Leviticus 10:4-5). Moses then gave warning to Aaron and his two remaining sons not to grieve over the death of Nadab and Abihu lest they too invoke the wrath of the Lord (Leviticus 10:6)."

They can't even grieve for their sons and brothers...or else...they will be killed too...for grieving...

Hmmmm...:unsure:



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The odd thing was that Zipporah (a Midianite) saved the day with an impromptu circumcision of her son. Probably made for an uncomfortable continental breakfast the morning after.
You think? As many objections as I've heard about other aspects of the bris, I've never heard anyone complain about the food.
 
I'm more interested in the fact that an outsider knew how to manage circumcision-gate issue with an angel of God... in real time. The dramatic irony is that doing this favor to save Moses' life would end up dooming the Midianites.
 
The Zipporah story is a real trip. I hope that school children in, say, Florida (and soon in my state) can learn this curious story in school, if all the other "outside of the box" stories are taken out of their school libraries.
The fact that a woman, Zipporah, is allowed to act as mohel is weird in itself, in that in another OT passage, you're supposed to cut off a woman's hand if she grabs a man by the johnson during a fight.
Wikipedia says that the actual Hebrew wording of the Zipporah story is fragmentary, that the pronouns are not specifically tagged to antecedents, so that modern translations have tidied up the story to make it as coherent as it is. The text doesn't really say why The Lord tries to kill Moses. Just that he does. I guess it's comforting to know that if a deity tries to kill you, you may still have an escape strategy.
Wiki also says that it's unclear in the Hebrew if The Lord wants to kill Moses or Gershom, the baby. It's even unclear as to whether Zipporah brushes the foreskin blood on the feet of Moses or God. (Again, you could ask the school children to use context clues to decide this.)
To sum up, it's full of oddities, almost as if the text were some sort of passed-down group oral tradition and not what we know it to be, the inerrant message of an omniscient god to his peeps.
 
The Zipporah story is a real trip. I hope that school children in, say, Florida (and soon in my state) can learn this curious story in school, if all the other "outside of the box" stories are taken out of their school libraries.
The fact that a woman, Zipporah, is allowed to act as mohel is weird in itself, in that in another OT passage, you're supposed to cut off a woman's hand if she grabs a man by the johnson during a fight.
Wikipedia says that the actual Hebrew wording of the Zipporah story is fragmentary, that the pronouns are not specifically tagged to antecedents, so that modern translations have tidied up the story to make it as coherent as it is. The text doesn't really say why The Lord tries to kill Moses. Just that he does. I guess it's comforting to know that if a deity tries to kill you, you may still have an escape strategy.
Wiki also says that it's unclear in the Hebrew if The Lord wants to kill Moses or Gershom, the baby. It's even unclear as to whether Zipporah brushes the foreskin blood on the feet of Moses or God. (Again, you could ask the school children to use context clues to decide this.)
To sum up, it's full of oddities, almost as if the text were some sort of passed-down group oral tradition and not what we know it to be, the inerrant message of an omniscient god to his peeps.
If we are taking this all to be history, the Torah had not yet been revealed to anyone yet; this story occurs shortly after Moses met with YHWH for the first time and was sent back, to reckon with the Pharoah and redeem himself from both murder and his attempt to flee and abandon his people in Egypt. The Law in all its glory was not to be revealed until after the liberation of the Hebrews therefrom. This might, indeed, explain why YHWH's wrath might be bearing down on Moses if we accept the logic of the day, as Moses almost assuredly violated the safety principles one goes through to meet a deity in the ancient near east, and ignorance is never an excuse in these types of stories. Think of a god in the bronze age world as a nuclear reactor of sorts, with all sorts of rituals and protocols you need to follow if you don't want to be burned to a crisp. Earlier in the chapter, Moses' hand becomes "leprous" in the presence of YHWH, just so he'll have a miraculous sign to present to the court later. YHWH is commanding Moses to do a job here, one that is very likely to get him killed one way or the next, and doesn't show any sign of caring about him personally or safeguarding his wellbeing. If there is any affection at all between God and Moses later on, it's not on display here at the beginnning of the story: rather, God is very angry and Moses is rightfully terrified. It would not be out of character for the YHWH of Exodus to wield fatal power against Moses just to make a point, or to force his wife into just such an action.
 
Think of a god in the bronze age world as a nuclear reactor of sorts, with all sorts of rituals and protocols you need to follow if you don't want to be burned to a crisp.
Nuclear reactors are just about the safest industrial facilities you could imagine.

To be burned to a crisp you would need a very poorly designed reactor (likely only available in the former Soviet Union, although the North Korean nuclear weapons program probably has some facilities that are built without the slightest concern for safety; The difficulty there would be finding one without getting shot), and even then, you would need detailed and specific knowledge of how to disable all the safety systems, in order to get anything bad to happen without the whole thing shutting itself down harmlessly and peacefully.

This kind of casual and ill-informed belief, that nuclear reactors are somehow the epitome of hazard and danger, is the reason why we have a climate change disaster unfolding as we speak.

People need to stop doing that.
 
One can't be too careful when dealing with the gods, one wrong move and you are toast.
Come on DBT you know the how the saying goes. You would need a saviour. 🙂

To save me from the wrath of Yhwh?
Who else??? First and foremost LEAVE the incense alone!!! :shrug:

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"Also, if the Ark of the Lord is about to tip over and fall in the sand, just look the other way and keep your goddamned hands off it. Trust me." -Uzzah
 

Zephaniah 1

New International Version

1 The word of the Lord that came to Zephaniah son of Cushi, the son of Gedaliah, the son of Amariah, the son of Hezekiah, during the reign of Josiah son of Amon king of Judah:​



Judgment on the Whole Earth in the Day of the Lord​

2 “I will sweep away everything
from the face of the earth,”
declares the Lord.
3 “I will sweep away both man and beast;
I will sweep away the birds in the sky
and the fish in the sea—
and the idols that cause the wicked to stumble.”[a]
“When I destroy all mankind
on the face of the earth,”
declares the Lord,
4 “I will stretch out my hand against Judah
and against all who live in Jerusalem.
I will destroy every remnant of Baal worship in this place,
the very names of the idolatrous priests—
5 those who bow down on the roofs
to worship the starry host,
those who bow down and swear by the Lord
and who also swear by Molek,[b]
6 those who turn back from following the Lord
and neither seek the Lord nor inquire of him.”
7 Be silent before the Sovereign Lord,
for the day of the Lord is near.
The Lord has prepared a sacrifice;
he has consecrated those he has invited.
8 “On the day of the Lord’s sacrifice
I will punish the officials
and the king’s sons
and all those clad
in foreign clothes.
9 On that day I will punish
all who avoid stepping on the threshold,[c]
who fill the temple of their gods
with violence and deceit.
10 “On that day,”
declares the Lord,
“a cry will go up from the Fish Gate,
wailing from the New Quarter,
and a loud crash from the hills.
11 Wail, you who live in the market district[d];
all your merchants will be wiped out,
all who trade with[e] silver will be destroyed.
12 At that time I will search Jerusalem with lamps
and punish those who are complacent,
who are like wine left on its dregs,
who think, ‘The Lord will do nothing,
either good or bad.’
13 Their wealth will be plundered,
their houses demolished.
Though they build houses,
they will not live in them;
though they plant vineyards,
they will not drink the wine.”
14 The great day of the Lord is near—
near and coming quickly.
The cry on the day of the Lord is bitter;
the Mighty Warrior shouts his battle cry.
15 That day will be a day of wrath—
a day of distress and anguish,
a day of trouble and ruin,
a day of darkness and gloom,
a day of clouds and blackness—
16 a day of trumpet and battle cry
against the fortified cities
and against the corner towers.
17 “I will bring such distress on all people
that they will grope about like those who are blind,
because they have sinned against the Lord.
Their blood will be poured out like dust
and their entrails like dung.
18 Neither their silver nor their gold
will be able to save them
on the day of the Lord’s wrath.”
In the fire of his jealousy
the whole earth will be consumed,
for he will make a sudden end
of all who live on the earth."

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Great day of the lord is coming? It's near?

*looks at watch*

Did Harold Camping write that verse?
 
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