barbos
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distinction without a difference.......These two people share very little in common.
distinction without a difference.......These two people share very little in common.
It was when she became a talk show host, instead of a trash talk show host. I remember in '94-'95 she flirted with it, and then at some she made the clean transition.I must have missed that moment.shifted her product into quality
Well, In 94-95 I was not even aware of her existence. My introduction to her was in early 2000s. Her show was garbage.It was when she became a talk show host, instead of a trash talk show host. I remember in '94-'95 she flirted with it, and then at some she made the clean transition.I must have missed that moment.shifted her product into quality
You don’t like her show. Cool. You’re not her audience. That doesn’t make it a ‘shot product.’ Oprah spent years working in the industry before she got her own show.Oprah, starting from little, sold a popular shit product and became successful and eventually shifted her product into quality. Made even more money.Scamming usually involves scamming clients, not employees.I do realize that you do not understand. AFAIK, Oprah is not a scammer, pays her employees what she promises to pay, and actually attempts to do good for other people. Trump thinks only of himself, cheats everyone and attempted to overthrow our government. Oprah funds charities. Trump and his family ripped off a children's charity. One is worth billions of dollars. The other owes billions of dollars. Differences seem pretty stark to me. AFAIK you are unfamiliar with either Winfrey or Trump.At the same time you can get tremendous (c) success when you come from rich piece of shit family such as Trump.
What is your point?
Do you understand that I don't really see much difference between Trump and Oprah when it comes business practices.
Both are scammers. it's just one of the scammer is on your team and other is not.
Trump, who started with wealth, was shit at business. Lost a fortune in casinos that required an immoral stock maneuver to save his ass. He has failed in about every business he tried to run, because he sucks at running businesses. He swapped over to simply marketing his name as meaning wealth and value. Made some money there. He is worth a lot less now than he'd been worth if he put his inheritance in an S&P tracking fund. This is ignoring his charity and school scams.
These two people share very little in common.
Maybe I'm misremembering things, but I remember the Oprah show being a trash talk show for years, like Geraldo and Donahue and then she transitioned to a more respectable format after time. I specifically remember her having guests like Elie Wiesel in '94/'95 for a short period of time. I didn't watch any of this stuff, so I could be completely missing things.You don’t like her show. Cool. You’re not her audience. That doesn’t make it a ‘shot product.’ Oprah spent years working in the industry before she got her own show.Oprah, starting from little, sold a popular shit product and became successful and eventually shifted her product into quality. Made even more money.
Trump, who started with wealth, was shit at business. Lost a fortune in casinos that required an immoral stock maneuver to save his ass. He has failed in about every business he tried to run, because he sucks at running businesses. He swapped over to simply marketing his name as meaning wealth and value. Made some money there. He is worth a lot less now than he'd been worth if he put his inheritance in an S&P tracking fund. This is ignoring his charity and school scams.
These two people share very little in common.
Full disclosure: I used to watch Oprah during the years when I stayed home with my kids when they were little. Her show aired at a time that was convenient for me to watch while I did things like fold laundry and meal prep. Not every show was earth shatteringly important but I never saw her show as trash talk. I’m certain I saw Donahue at some point when my mother would visit but again I don’t recall that as being ‘trash.’ Perhaps our definitions are not similar. I think my entire experience with the Kardashian franchise is when I saw commercials for whatever show they were promoting. Based on that little bit, I would classify that as ‘trash.’Maybe I'm misremembering things, but I remember the Oprah show being a trash talk show for years, like Geraldo and Donahue and then she transitioned to a more respectable format after time. I specifically remember her having guests like Elie Wiesel in '94/'95 for a short period of time. I didn't watch any of this stuff, so I could be completely missing things.You don’t like her show. Cool. You’re not her audience. That doesn’t make it a ‘shot product.’ Oprah spent years working in the industry before she got her own show.Oprah, starting from little, sold a popular shit product and became successful and eventually shifted her product into quality. Made even more money.
Trump, who started with wealth, was shit at business. Lost a fortune in casinos that required an immoral stock maneuver to save his ass. He has failed in about every business he tried to run, because he sucks at running businesses. He swapped over to simply marketing his name as meaning wealth and value. Made some money there. He is worth a lot less now than he'd been worth if he put his inheritance in an S&P tracking fund. This is ignoring his charity and school scams.
These two people share very little in common.
There is no doubt that Oprah built her empire. Trump inherited his.... and squandered a great deal of it.
Trump does both, including contractors.Scamming usually involves scamming clients, not employees.I do realize that you do not understand. AFAIK, Oprah is not a scammer, pays her employees what she promises to pay, and actually attempts to do good for other people. Trump thinks only of himself, cheats everyone and attempted to overthrow our government. Oprah funds charities. Trump and his family ripped off a children's charity. One is worth billions of dollars. The other owes billions of dollars. Differences seem pretty stark to me. AFAIK you are unfamiliar with either Winfrey or Trump.At the same time you can get tremendous (c) success when you come from rich piece of shit family such as Trump.I’m saying that the US is a country where one can achieve a tremendous amount of financial success even if you were born in modest or even impoverished circumstances. It’s so good that Musk apparently thought it presented his best chance for financial success.So Bezos and Oprah were poor. And Musk (SA) was rich. Are you saying US is a shitty country with lots of dirt poor people?Musk’s parents were very well off. He definitely had a great deal of advantage because of his parents’ wealth.Donald Drumph clearly had advantage. Musk, not so much. Some luck but it was not money related.Sure sure. Being white in South Africa plus wealthy gives one absolutely zero advantages. You know that as a kid, Elon literally walked around with emeralds in his pockets?
Same as Bill Gates. By the way Bezos was dirt poor I think.
Bezos’ origins were indeed relatively modest. He and his now ex-wife founded Amazon.
What is your point?
Do you understand that I don't really see much difference between Trump and Oprah when it comes business practices.
Both are scammers. it's just one of the scammer is on your team and other is not.
Well duh, Jimmy is a man.You don’t like her show. Cool. You’re not her audience. That doesn’t make it a ‘shot product.’ Oprah spent years working in the industry before she got her own show.Oprah, starting from little, sold a popular shit product and became successful and eventually shifted her product into quality. Made even more money.Scamming usually involves scamming clients, not employees.I do realize that you do not understand. AFAIK, Oprah is not a scammer, pays her employees what she promises to pay, and actually attempts to do good for other people. Trump thinks only of himself, cheats everyone and attempted to overthrow our government. Oprah funds charities. Trump and his family ripped off a children's charity. One is worth billions of dollars. The other owes billions of dollars. Differences seem pretty stark to me. AFAIK you are unfamiliar with either Winfrey or Trump.At the same time you can get tremendous (c) success when you come from rich piece of shit family such as Trump.
What is your point?
Do you understand that I don't really see much difference between Trump and Oprah when it comes business practices.
Both are scammers. it's just one of the scammer is on your team and other is not.
Trump, who started with wealth, was shit at business. Lost a fortune in casinos that required an immoral stock maneuver to save his ass. He has failed in about every business he tried to run, because he sucks at running businesses. He swapped over to simply marketing his name as meaning wealth and value. Made some money there. He is worth a lot less now than he'd been worth if he put his inheritance in an S&P tracking fund. This is ignoring his charity and school scams.
These two people share very little in common.
...Kardashians....
I realize that this is an extremely male dominated forum and also realize that despite making up slightly less than half of the world and doing far less than half of the work, men dominate, particularly in some countries.Well duh, Jimmy is a man.You don’t like her show. Cool. You’re not her audience. That doesn’t make it a ‘shot product.’ Oprah spent years working in the industry before she got her own show.Oprah, starting from little, sold a popular shit product and became successful and eventually shifted her product into quality. Made even more money.Scamming usually involves scamming clients, not employees.I do realize that you do not understand. AFAIK, Oprah is not a scammer, pays her employees what she promises to pay, and actually attempts to do good for other people. Trump thinks only of himself, cheats everyone and attempted to overthrow our government. Oprah funds charities. Trump and his family ripped off a children's charity. One is worth billions of dollars. The other owes billions of dollars. Differences seem pretty stark to me. AFAIK you are unfamiliar with either Winfrey or Trump.At the same time you can get tremendous (c) success when you come from rich piece of shit family such as Trump.
What is your point?
Do you understand that I don't really see much difference between Trump and Oprah when it comes business practices.
Both are scammers. it's just one of the scammer is on your team and other is not.
Trump, who started with wealth, was shit at business. Lost a fortune in casinos that required an immoral stock maneuver to save his ass. He has failed in about every business he tried to run, because he sucks at running businesses. He swapped over to simply marketing his name as meaning wealth and value. Made some money there. He is worth a lot less now than he'd been worth if he put his inheritance in an S&P tracking fund. This is ignoring his charity and school scams.
These two people share very little in common.
Kardashians, Oprah, the Apprentice and other garbage like that was nothing but a fodder for Late Shows and SNL, that's the only good thing about them.
I don't know about men doing far less than half the work! But totally agree with your post! Men have also become incredible whinners lately.I realize that this is an extremely male dominated forum and also realize that despite making up slightly less than half of the world and doing far less than half of the work, men dominate, particularly in some countries.Well duh, Jimmy is a man.You don’t like her show. Cool. You’re not her audience. That doesn’t make it a ‘shot product.’ Oprah spent years working in the industry before she got her own show.Oprah, starting from little, sold a popular shit product and became successful and eventually shifted her product into quality. Made even more money.Scamming usually involves scamming clients, not employees.I do realize that you do not understand. AFAIK, Oprah is not a scammer, pays her employees what she promises to pay, and actually attempts to do good for other people. Trump thinks only of himself, cheats everyone and attempted to overthrow our government. Oprah funds charities. Trump and his family ripped off a children's charity. One is worth billions of dollars. The other owes billions of dollars. Differences seem pretty stark to me. AFAIK you are unfamiliar with either Winfrey or Trump.At the same time you can get tremendous (c) success when you come from rich piece of shit family such as Trump.
What is your point?
Do you understand that I don't really see much difference between Trump and Oprah when it comes business practices.
Both are scammers. it's just one of the scammer is on your team and other is not.
Trump, who started with wealth, was shit at business. Lost a fortune in casinos that required an immoral stock maneuver to save his ass. He has failed in about every business he tried to run, because he sucks at running businesses. He swapped over to simply marketing his name as meaning wealth and value. Made some money there. He is worth a lot less now than he'd been worth if he put his inheritance in an S&P tracking fund. This is ignoring his charity and school scams.
These two people share very little in common.
Kardashians, Oprah, the Apprentice and other garbage like that was nothing but a fodder for Late Shows and SNL, that's the only good thing about them.
I also realize that men are not very good arbiters of what is and is not good quality.
Jimmy was much much younger when Oprah, Donahue, and Geraldo had afternoon talk shows.Well duh, Jimmy is a man.You don’t like her show. Cool. You’re not her audience. That doesn’t make it a ‘shot product.’ Oprah spent years working in the industry before she got her own show.These two people share very little in common.
You said you didn't know Oprah until the 21sst century, so how is your recollection of 80's, 90's United States talk show programming even a viable position?Kardashians, Oprah, the Apprentice and other garbage like that was nothing but a fodder for Late Shows and SNL, that's the only good thing about them.
Did I say anything about 90s talk shows?You said you didn't know Oprah until the 21sst century, so how is your recollection of 80's, 90's United States talk show programming even a viable position?
I disagree.I also realize that men are not very good arbiters of what is and is not good quality.
Case in point.I disagree.I also realize that men are not very good arbiters of what is and is not good quality.
Oprah was not a good talk show. It was a very popular among women show which kinda does make my point.Case in point.I disagree.I also realize that men are not very good arbiters of what is and is not good quality.
You more of a Dick Dietrick fan?Oprah was not a good talk show. It was a very popular among women show which kinda does make my point.Case in point.I disagree.I also realize that men are not very good arbiters of what is and is not good quality.
Like Byzantine Poser? I'm not certain if the rules allow that.Call me names,
My grandmother was more of a Regis Philbin fan. My mother never watched talk shows....but the vast majority of women have a very narrow range of interests in what they like to watch, and Oprah was right in the center of that range.
Oprah was not a good talk show. It was a very popular among women show which kinda does make my point.Case in point.I disagree.I also realize that men are not very good arbiters of what is and is not good quality.
Call me names, but the vast majority of women have a very narrow range of interests in what they like to watch, and Oprah was right in the center of that range.