National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (NPVIC)

[Shadowy Man]

Everyone’s votes do already count.

Some more than others when it comes to electing a President.

Yeah. The votes of the people of Alaska and Wyoming are pretty much meaningless compared with California, Texas or New York or Florida.

They may have less impact, but they are counted more. There are more electoral college votes per capita in the states of Alaska and Wyoming than in California. They can still be ultimately outvoted by the masses in the more populous states but they still get more effective voting power.

 

[TomC]

They may have less impact, but they are counted more. There are more electoral college votes per capita in the states of Alaska and Wyoming than in California. They can still be ultimately outvoted by the masses in the more populous states but they still get more effective voting power.

I don't remember the details a decade later.

But according to NVP the seven least populous states that voted Trump in 2016 had a combined EC delegates total equal to California. Their entire population was about the size of the greater Los Angeles area.
Tom

 

[Toni]

Everyone’s votes do already count.

Some more than others when it comes to electing a President.

Yeah. The votes of the people of Alaska and Wyoming are pretty much meaningless compared with California, Texas or New York or Florida.

They may have less impact, but they are counted more. There are more electoral college votes per capita in the states of Alaska and Wyoming than in California. They can still be ultimately outvoted by the masses in the more populous states but they still get more effective voting power.

It takes very very little to overwhelm the electoral votes of small population states.

 

[laughing dog]

Some more than others when it comes to electing a President.

Yeah. The votes of the people of Alaska and Wyoming are pretty much meaningless compared with California, Texas or New York or Florida.

That is simply not true.
A presidential vote in Wyoming is worth nearly 4 Californian votes for the president.

And not everyone in those states have any say in the presidential election, because they know how their legislatures are going to vote.

Which is all that matters in the current system.
Tom

Really. When has Wyoming played any important part in electing any POTUS?

2000. Wyoming went for Bush; if it had gone for Gore he'd have won.

And if the popular vote was in effect, Wyoming votes wouldn’t have changed the outcome - Gore would have won.

 

[Shadowy Man]

Everyone’s votes do already count.

Some more than others when it comes to electing a President.

Yeah. The votes of the people of Alaska and Wyoming are pretty much meaningless compared with California, Texas or New York or Florida.

They may have less impact, but they are counted more. There are more electoral college votes per capita in the states of Alaska and Wyoming than in California. They can still be ultimately outvoted by the masses in the more populous states but they still get more effective voting power.

It takes very very little to overwhelm the electoral votes of small population states.

That is because they are so low population. Even when Wyoming citizens get almost four times the voting power than California citizens there just aren’t enough of them.

But they do get counted for more in the current system. That is my point.

You seem to be saying that it is fair for them to get more voting power because otherwise a President wouldn’t need to be responsive to their needs, even though they are still overrepresented in Congress, the government body that actually has the power to address their needs.

 

[Shadowy Man]

Should rural voters in California get more say in who is governor of the state than people living in LA or SF? The logic would seem to hold there, right?