Newsom's Presidential Campaign

[TSwizzle]

You are too funny. Kackling Kamala ran against a convicted felon etc, and lost big time. Unless of course you think the election was rigged.

?? It was one of the closest margins in history!

She lost every single swing state. Every single one of them. To a convicted felon etc no less.

 

[Harry Bosch]

You are too funny. Kackling Kamala ran against a convicted felon etc, and lost big time. Unless of course you think the election was rigged.

?? It was one of the closest margins in history!

She lost every single swing state. Every single one of them. To a convicted felon etc no less.

Trump won. There is no doubt. But it was very close. Biden beat Trump in 2020 with a much greater margin.

 

[Elixir]

Trump is quite elderly, he won't last for too much longer.

He has already lasted too much longer.

 

[Elixir]

You are too funny. Kackling Kamala ran against a convicted felon etc, and lost big time. Unless of course you think the election was rigged.

?? It was one of the closest margins in history!

She lost every single swing state. Every single one of them. To a convicted felon etc no less.

The Felon campaigned for nine straight years on practically unlimited financial support, almost half of it from from the "bully pulpit", before she even got her hat in the ring for president.
That's what happens. One and a half percent.

 

[TSwizzle]

You are too funny. Kackling Kamala ran against a convicted felon etc, and lost big time. Unless of course you think the election was rigged.

?? It was one of the closest margins in history!

She lost every single swing state. Every single one of them. To a convicted felon etc no less.

Trump won. There is no doubt. But it was very close. Biden beat Trump in 2020 with a much greater margin.

True enough but all elections are pretty close and if this gives you some comfort, I'm happy for you but it seems you are stuck on what could have, should have been.

Anyway, onward and upward.

 

[Derec]

Failed presidential candidates rarely get another at bat, and even Nixon had to sit out 1964.

Wish someone had explained that to Joe Biden.

Why Joe Biden? He hasn't been the nominee before 2020. I was not talking about people who come up short in the primaries, but those who get nominated by their parties and lose. Like Kamala Harris, and unlike Joe Biden.

 

[Derec]

The margin of victory was 1.5 percentage points, which is considered the fifth smallest margin of victory in the thirty-two presidential races held since 1900.

Indeed. Despite the anti-incumbent sentiment worldwide, a better candidate would likely have won.
Which makes Biden's decision to drag out his long goodbye until Dems were stuck with Kami all the more disastrous.
Dems could have won 2024, by having Joe Biden withdraw as a candidate in 2023 and by having a proper primary in 2024.

He beat a girl with all the “shoulda been fatal” flaws you keep dwelling on (irrationally) - by a whopping one and a half percentage points. Congratulations to the Felon, but the margin doesn’t matter now.

I wish y'all would stop with the "Felon" moniker. Without that ill-conceived prosecution, even Kamala Harris might have prevailed against Trump. After all, they both have plenty of "shoulda been fatal" flaws.
Alvin Bragg, who usually loves to downgrade clear felonies to misdemeanors prosecuted a clear misdemeanor as a felony based on a half-baked "novel legal theory". Add to that the fact that both Feds and the previous Manhattan DA passed on this Hush Money case, as well as the salacious nature of the underlying offense, and many people saw Trump as somebody unjustly persecuted by his political opponents.
In the end, the convictions did not hurt Trump. In fact, they helped him.

The Republicans could elect a cabbage running against Jesus Himself, with enough help from Putin, Musk & Co.

But Dems nominated a turnip to run against the cabbage, and are then baffled that it was a tossup and that they did not run away with it.

 

[Derec]

Didn’t Reagan lose several times also?

He lost once in the primaries. My point was about the general election.

Candidates who lose the election generally do not get elected president again. They are rarely even nominated again.
Which means that Kamala Harris is very unlikely to be the 2028 nominee.

 

[TSwizzle]

Which means that Kamala Harris is very unlikely to be the 2028 nominee.

And will therefore become governor of California. It’s hard to believe that California will get rid of insufferable prick Newsom and vote in someone worse. Living in California is like living in purgatory with these clowns running the state.

 

[Derec]

And will therefore become governor of California. It’s hard to believe that California will get rid of insufferable prick Newsom and vote in someone worse. Living in California is like living in purgatory with these clowns running the state.

Newsom has no choice. He is term limited.

 

[Politesse]

Which means that Kamala Harris is very unlikely to be the 2028 nominee.

And will therefore become governor of California. It’s hard to believe that California will get rid of insufferable prick Newsom and vote in someone worse. Living in California is like living in purgatory with these clowns running the state.

Whereas with a conservative radio clown at the helm, I suppose we'd be a in a golden age?

 

[Derec]

Whereas with a conservative radio clown at the helm, I suppose we'd be a in a golden age?

Question: of the people likely to run for Gov in 2026, whom do you like and why?

 

[Politesse]

I have no idea, and don't really feel all that invested in the question. I'm not a conservative, I don't share or even understand this bizarre conviction y'all seem to have that everything bad which happens in the state is attributable to the governor somehow. Whoever the Democratic candidate is, I'll vote for them, and hope not to hear from them all that often after that aside from whatever bullshit state level education initiative they're trying to push, and periodic bouts of explaining you and Tswizzle in very small simple phrases that he or she is not personally responsible for dry grasslands being flammable or whatever you're putting on Sacramento next.

 

[Politesse]

Actually, is Eleni Kounalakis running? I presume yes. If so, that's fine. Her memoir was an interesting if worrying read.

 

[TSwizzle]

And will therefore become governor of California. It’s hard to believe that California will get rid of insufferable prick Newsom and vote in someone worse. Living in California is like living in purgatory with these clowns running the state.

Newsom has no choice. He is term limited.

I’m aware of that. Newsom was absolutely giddy that Harris lost the election. Otherwise he would have been staring at eight years in the political wilderness. Still, he has no chance of being president so we might be rid of the insufferable prick for a while after 2028.

 

[thebeave]

I have no idea, and don't really feel all that invested in the question. I'm not a conservative, I don't share or even understand this bizarre conviction y'all seem to have that everything bad which happens in the state is attributable to the governor somehow. Whoever the Democratic candidate is, I'll vote for them, and hope not to hear from them all that often after that aside from whatever bullshit state level education initiative they're trying to push, and periodic bouts of explaining you and Tswizzle in very small simple phrases that he or she is not personally responsible for dry grasslands being flammable or whatever you're putting on Sacramento next.

Newsom is a convenient punching bag for all things wrong in California, but there were significant problems well before he came on board, though. Personally, I think the bigger problem is the California legislature has a supermajority of Democrats and can do and spend on whatever the hell they want and without any accountablility, apparently. We could use more Republicans in the legislature, even if all they do is moderate the progressive Democrats' spending and agenda. One party rule sucks, especially these days, since both parties are fucking nuts.

 

[Politesse]

I do agree with that to a certain measure, though our diagnoses of what specifically makes single party rule dangerous probably don't quite cohere. To me, the biggest problem is that politicians in "safe" seats and districts just don't have a lot of accountability to their constituencies at the end of the day. Waste and grift are common regardless of party when a politician feels their loyalty to those they represent as less pressing than their loyalty to their family, their social circle, and their business interests. State-level government is the worst, because you have a lot of positions that fill and refill with the same individuals or families through sheer inertia and familiarity. My asshole House Representative has never held a town hall. Why? Because he doesn't need to. All he needs to worry about is looking out for number one, and that means that every month his ass needs to be out at Mar a Lago, not Modesto. I doubt he has any idea what the county's current challenges and problems might be; if a reporter somehow manages to corner him, he asks his staff. Before I moved out here, it was Ro Khanna, who is not much better. At least I marginally supported a lot of his activities in Washington, but I never felt especially represented by his exploits. Single party rule does not help.

But Republicans lost control of this state for a reason. They want my vote? Maybe stop fucking publically declaring war on the state, dipshits. The math on this is not complicated. I mean you really have to be a special kind of moron to be a California Republican. Sure, their rhetoric is against the Left and the Wokes, but when they come for us, they come for all of us. If they cut funding to our schools, it'll be schools in Delano that have to patch their leaking roofs with tin scrap long before San Francisco runs out of tile. When they defund the Interior or cancel FEMA "awards", it's Paradise that burns, not just LA. When they introduce tariffs targeted at dismantling our industries, they won't ask for the voter registrations of the workers at the factories and warehouses they shut down.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

It would be a disaster for either Harris or Newsom to be the national candidate, so I'm glad their support is flagging a bit, but I can't fathom why apparently multiple outlets money polling four years early, especially for an election that is apt to be rigged anyway.

Is every election the democrats lose rigged? This is MAGA conspiracy theory territory.

Not every election. But in both cases The Felon won by fraud. Specifically, measures designed to make it hard for the poor to vote, while pretending to be about fraud that basically does not exist.

If Trump is a candidate, he will be the only true candidate no matter who his backers choose to cast as the "opposition leader".

More conspiracy theory nonsense. Trump is quite elderly, he won't last for too much longer.

Might be his successor. Doesn't change the fact that it's unlikely there's a real election anymore.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

You are too funny. Kackling Kamala ran against a convicted felon etc, and lost big time. Unless of course you think the election was rigged.

?? It was one of the closest margins in history!

She lost every single swing state. Every single one of them. To a convicted felon etc no less.

The places where the Republican vote fraud actually mattered. Just because it was done through the legal system doesn't make it not fraud.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

You are too funny. Kackling Kamala ran against a convicted felon etc, and lost big time. Unless of course you think the election was rigged.

?? It was one of the closest margins in history!

She lost every single swing state. Every single one of them. To a convicted felon etc no less.

Trump won. There is no doubt. But it was very close. Biden beat Trump in 2020 with a much greater margin.

True enough but all elections are pretty close and if this gives you some comfort, I'm happy for you but it seems you are stuck on what could have, should have been.

Anyway, onward and upward.

We are in a power dive.