No comments on Madison Square Garden?

[ZiprHead]

Btw, Mr. Sohy and I have always voted for the same party, the more sane party that doesn't elect people like Trump, or Kemp etc.

Are you sure?

 

[barbos]

I know this might be inappropriate to say, but if I’d been standing next to Biden when he said that, I would've wanted to choke him out. "DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT IS AT RISK!?! DO YOU EVEN REMEMBER HILLARY!?!?!" Go sit yo punk ass down!!".

You do realize that he does not care? He is pissed off at Kamala for throwing him out of running for the second term

I doubt that. I think he saw he was falling behind in the polls and wasn’t making any significant progress. Plus, with the DNC and public opinion pushing for him to step down due to poor performance, it was what it was. I highly doubt he did this intentionally; he was just trying to help but handled it poorly.

You are assuming Biden is not senile.

 

[ZiprHead]

You are assuming Biden is not senile.

You are assuming Russo Nazi Putin is not senile.

 

[barbos]

You are assuming Biden is not senile.

You are assuming Russo Nazi Putin is not senile.

He lives in your head rent free, does not he?
Kinda makes one wonder about your diagnosis.
You can't even remember your narrative. Putin is supposed to be dying from cancer, try to memorize it, write it down somewhere and keep it ready.

 

[ZiprHead]

Donald Trump: "They are scum They are absolute garbage."

 

[ZiprHead]

You are assuming Biden is not senile.

You are assuming Russo Nazi Putin is not senile.

He lives in your head rent free, does not he?
Kinda makes one wonder about your diagnosis.
You can't even remember your narrative. Putin is supposed to be dying from cancer, try to memorize it, write it down somewhere and keep it ready.

Putin's an asshole. I hope he dies of cancer.

 

[barbos]

You are assuming Biden is not senile.

You are assuming Russo Nazi Putin is not senile.

He lives in your head rent free, does not he?
Kinda makes one wonder about your diagnosis.
You can't even remember your narrative. Putin is supposed to be dying from cancer, try to memorize it, write it down somewhere and keep it ready.

Putin's an asshole.

Biden is an asshole. Putin sot so much.

 

[zorq]

Oh puhlease Brandon's garbage remark was intentional.

Brandon saying the quiet part out loud more like.

Democrats have nothing but contempt for the plebs, the white plebs in particular.

Lol. You think you deserve respect from Biden?
Respect is earned.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Disinterest breeds ignorance.
Ignorance becomes its own punishment, but that takes time.

And it tends to grade on a very harsh scale.

 

[Shadowy Man]

Oh puhlease Brandon's garbage remark was intentional.

Brandon saying the quiet part out loud more like.

Democrats have nothing but contempt for the plebs, the white plebs in particular.

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Lol. You think you deserve respect from Biden?
Respect is earned.

It’s not the Republicans they worry about but the cohort of horribly uninformed voters deciding at last minute who our President is going to be.

 

[Patooka]

Oh puhlease Brandon's garbage remark was intentional.

Brandon saying the quiet part out loud more like.

Democrats have nothing but contempt for the plebs, the white plebs in particular.

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Lol. You think you deserve respect from Biden?
Respect is earned.

It’s not the Republicans they worry about but the cohort of horribly uninformed voters deciding at last minute who our President is going to be.

I seriously doubt there are any undecided voters in the US anymore.

Unmotivated voters on the other hand...

 

[Politesse]

I seriously doubt there are any undecided voters in the US anymore.

Not true! I've talked to a few recently. All very young people, but undecided voters all the same. At the age when someone is voting in their first election, they are fighting off eighteen years of propaganda in the home for one side or another, and may be new to the notion that it's now up to them to decide whether all of it is actually true, or whether anyone can be trusted.

 

[Patooka]

I seriously doubt there are any undecided voters in the US anymore.

Not true! I've talked to a few recently. All very young people, but undecided voters all the same. At the age when someone is voting in their first election, they are fighting off eighteen years of propaganda in the home for one side or another, and may be new to the notion that it's now up to them to decide whether all of it is actually true, or whether anyone can be trusted.

Gotta ask - undecided or just unmotivated? Because they sound unmotivated.

 

[Spacetime Inhabitant]

I doubt that Biden's statement about Trump supporters will have any voting effect. Trump supporters are going to vote for Trump anyway, so it doesn't matter if they are insulted. Non-Trump voters already are thinking the same as Biden, that Trump supporters are vile, so that won't harm Kamala, and may even impress some people enough to vote for Kamala where before they were considering not voting, because to hear President Biden say it may cause them to think, "yeah, he's right'.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I seriously doubt there are any undecided voters in the US anymore.

Not true! I've talked to a few recently. All very young people, but undecided voters all the same. At the age when someone is voting in their first election, they are fighting off eighteen years of propaganda in the home for one side or another, and may be new to the notion that it's now up to them to decide whether all of it is actually true, or whether anyone can be trusted.

Worse yet, this shit with Trump is normal to them. They don't know politics any other way. So the cesspool that is Trump seems normalized.

 

[Politesse]

It's true. If you're a new voter this election, your recollection of "before Trump" and the associated polarization of media landscapes is hazy at best. They've grown up in a social media driven world designed at its core to confuse and divide, to make people all too skeptical or all too trusting of exactly the wrong things.

 

[bilby]

It's true. If you're a new voter this election, your recollection of "before Trump" and the associated polarization of media landscapes is hazy at best. They've grown up in a social media driven world designed at its core to confuse and divide, to make people all too skeptical or all too trusting of exactly the wrong things.

I suspect that many middle aged voters today are failing to grasp the ways in which mass communications and media consumption have changed, just as their parents and grandparents did.

Where I see an obvious and blatant scam, my father in law sees an email with the logo of his bank on it as an official document on company letterhead. If it was a scam, he reasons, they would not be allowed to use the bank's logo.

He grew up in a world where the use of such identifying markers demonstrating trustworthiness wasn't yet rendered valueless.

We too grew up in a world whose key indicators of trustworthiness were different from what they have become, and it is still becoming more difficult to spot disinformation, or even to trust that "information" still exists at all.

The majority of us are very bad at recognizing that the entire system has changed beyond recognition from that with which we grew up, and so are incapable of understanding the way the system looks to those who did grow up with it.

And of course, the young people of today will get older, and become befuddled by new paradigms in their turn.

Within any society, at any time since mass literacy allowed people to be aware of the "news", there is a tension between the failure of older people to grasp the ways in which new scams operate, and the failure of young people to have learned skepticism from bitter experience.

Young and old are skeptical of different things, and both are aghast at just how easily fooled the other is.

 

[Politesse]

It's true. If you're a new voter this election, your recollection of "before Trump" and the associated polarization of media landscapes is hazy at best. They've grown up in a social media driven world designed at its core to confuse and divide, to make people all too skeptical or all too trusting of exactly the wrong things.

I suspect that many middle aged voters today are failing to grasp the ways in which mass communications and media consumption have changed, just as their parents and grandparents did.

Where I see an obvious and blatant scam, my father in law sees an email with the logo of his bank on it as an official document on company letterhead. If it was a scam, he reasons, they would not be allowed to use the bank's logo.

He grew up in a world where the use of such identifying markers demonstrating trustworthiness wasn't yet rendered valueless.

We too grew up in a world whose key indicators of trustworthiness were different from what they have become, and it is still becoming more difficult to spot disinformation, or even to trust that "information" still exists at all.

The majority of us are very bad at recognizing that the entire system has changed beyond recognition from that with which we grew up, and so are incapable of understanding the way the system looks to those who did grow up with it.

And of course, the young people of today will get older, and become befuddled by new paradigms in their turn.

Within any society, at any time since mass literacy allowed people to be aware of the "news", there is a tension between the failure of older people to grasp the ways in which new scams operate, and the failure of young people to have learned skepticism from bitter experience.

Young and old are skeptical of different things, and both are aghast at just how easily fooled the other is.

I think that's very true, and so insightfully explained that I have little to add to it.

Of course, I'm middle aged and male, and thus convinced that everyone is deluded but me.

 

[Derec]

I suspect that many middle aged voters today are failing to grasp the ways in which mass communications and media consumption have changed, just as their parents and grandparents did.

Indeed. Zoomers, especially the younger part of that cohort, often take whatever they see on TikTok as true, and do not bother to fact check or look at the claims critically.

We too grew up in a world whose key indicators of trustworthiness were different from what they have become, and it is still becoming more difficult to spot disinformation, or even to trust that "information" still exists at all.

I think it is the opposite. It is easier for us to spot disinformation than the "social media natives" who grew up with the likes of TikTok.

 

[bilby]

I think it is the opposite. It is easier for us to spot disinformation than the "social media natives" who grew up with the likes of TikTok.

Everyone believes themselves to be immune to disinformation, until they consider the fact that the disinformation to which they themselves are not immune is, to them, indistinguishable from information.

"I can spot disinformation" is a dangerous and hasty conclusion to draw from your ability to spot disinformation that is effective on others, while never seeing any that is effective on you.

By definition, the effective stuff is invisible to you.