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Following recent discussion about private schools here's one of the best explanations of privilege I've ever seen : GreenAndPleasant - How rich parents give their children much more of a head start than poor ones.

I've inlined that article's picture, and I've put in hide tags so it will be out of the way unless you want to see it.


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Following recent discussion about private schools here's one of the best explanations of privilege I've ever seen : GreenAndPleasant - How rich parents give their children much more of a head start than poor ones.

I've inlined that article's picture, and I've put in hide tags so it will be out of the way unless you want to see it.


I think we've already witnessed the tried and true corruption with which our aristocracy places their spawn into ivy league colleges and ultimately subsequent positions of power over the rest of us.
 
If you can't afford children, maybe you shouldn't have like five of them.

P.S.: Paula's parents seem to be able to afford a big screen TV. But apparently not blocks and books. Hmm.
 
If you can't afford children, maybe you shouldn't have like five of them.
You're right. If you unexpectedly lose your job, you should shoot your family dead.
P.S.: Paula's parents seem to be able to afford a big screen TV. But apparently not blocks and books. Hmm.
Again, spot on. If you unexpectedly lose your job, you should certainly sell your TV for ten percent of what it cost you, in order to buy toys for the kids you just killed.

I don't know why poor people complain; all of their problems have really obvious and simple solutions. They must be fucking idiots.

Fortunately, it's impossible that you might ever suffer a series of setbacks that leave you unexpectedly poor. Completely impossible. Couldn't ever happen. No siree. Not something you will ever need to worry about. And if you were to (completely needlessly) start to worry about it, you can always take comfort in the unquestionable fact that you are so much smarter and better than them, so you would be able to bounce back straight away.

But just in case, perhaps you should make damn sure that they all know how clever and superior you are. Just in case. Stiff your waitress out of her tip, and get your friendly local cops to move on the bums sleeping in the park. Or if you don't like to be confrontational, just vote for the guy who wants to take away their food stamps, and cut minimum wage. That'll show 'em.

Phew! Problem solved.
 
If you can't afford children, maybe you shouldn't have like five of them.
While a low birthrate is a Bad Thing, right?
P.S.: Paula's parents seem to be able to afford a big screen TV. But apparently not blocks and books. Hmm.
It's possible to get a secondhand flat-screen TV from a thrift shop. Have you ever heard of such places?
 
If you're a good parent, you're doing society serious harm. To ensure equity, don't read to your children, don't speak to your children, keep your child's expectations low. Shame on anyone who tries to give their child an edge in life. That's to the OP, I'll stop reading to my children and offering them encouragement. I'll just plop them in front of a t.v. For the good of society, of course.
 
If you're a good parent, you're doing society serious harm. To ensure equity, don't read to your children, don't speak to your children, keep your child's expectations low. Shame on anyone who tries to give their child an edge in life. That's to the OP, I'll stop reading to my children and offering them encouragement. I'll just plop them in front of a t.v. For the good of society, of course.

Clearly your parents were excellent citizens, and severely neglected to teach you how to reason and think critically, if that's what you take from the OP.
 
If you're a good parent, you're doing society serious harm. To ensure equity, don't read to your children, don't speak to your children, keep your child's expectations low. Shame on anyone who tries to give their child an edge in life. That's to the OP, I'll stop reading to my children and offering them encouragement. I'll just plop them in front of a t.v. For the good of society, of course.

Clearly your parents were excellent citizens, and severely neglected to teach you how to reason and think critically, if that's what you take from the OP.

If you have time to watch t.v., you have time to read to your kids. Children's books? They're like a dollar at the thrift store. Not encouraging your children? WTF is wrong with you? Don't blame others for your own failing.
 
Paula’s parents should have traded in the flat screen tv for a record player and some records.
 
If you're a good parent, you're doing society serious harm. To ensure equity, don't read to your children, don't speak to your children, keep your child's expectations low. Shame on anyone who tries to give their child an edge in life. That's to the OP, I'll stop reading to my children and offering them encouragement. I'll just plop them in front of a t.v. For the good of society, of course.

Clearly your parents were excellent citizens, and severely neglected to teach you how to reason and think critically, if that's what you take from the OP.

If you have time to watch t.v., you have time to read to your kids. Children's books? They're like a dollar at the thrift store. Not encouraging your children? WTF is wrong with you? Don't blame others for your own failing.

I understand the sentiment. I really do.


I didn't spend a long time working in a program that helped pre-schoolchildren and families in poverty but some things really stunned me.

Our program was housed in a school building. Like other school programs, we had a parents' night and a very good number of the parents turned up. What really, really knocked me on my heels was how uncomfortable those parents felt. Not because they were trying to sit in too tiny chairs and desks but simply to be in a school. In their own school days and before, they had gotten the message loud and clear: school wasn't for them. It was a place where they felt uncomfortable, unwelcome. Dumb. Hopeless. Like life had given up on them 3 generations back.

It was asking so much of them to be brave enough to hope for more for their children. Because when you give someone hope, you also open up the risk of failure. Most of the parents had failed so much for so long and their parents and grandparents before them. School was not for the likes of them. They hoped they'd get one of the factory jobs and that their kids would someday because it was semi-steady work, and most years, there might be a raise: $0.05/hr. I'm not making that up. But usually the company gave out turkeys at Thanksgiving and a ham at Christmas. If they didn't, usually churches did. It really hurt to have to have a charity pick out their kids' Christmas gifts.

A lot of the parents couldn't read. Or couldn't read well enough to feel comfortable reading to their kids. Books were gateways to worlds and worlds and worlds to me from the time I can remember. To these parents: books were marks of failure.

So, it's easy to say: read to your kids and find them books at the library and the dollar store if you can read and spare a dollar now and then. It's easy to say: feed your kids nutritious food if you can afford nutritious food. If you know what nutritious food looks like, tastes like. How to prepare it so that it is still nutritious. If your tastes have not been so molded to sugar and fat and starch before you were 5 that fruits and vegetables aren't just rich people food but taste funny, too.

The program I worked in worked with the entire family and very specifically targeted very basics: nutrition, literacy for parents and children, how to access health care services and educational services for your kid. I think everybody posting here is at least middle class. Those skills and expectations are like breathing to the middle class or working class. They are almost beyond imagination to parents beat down by poverty, poverty wages when they can get them. Chronic illness. Chronic mental illness. A couple of the parents were mildly developmentally delayed. Their kids were presumed to be, as well, but I didn't think so. I certainly saw kids every bit as smart and as creative and as well behaved as I did in the very best classroom in the very best school I ever walked into. And kids who would probably struggle in school. I saw parents who were terrific: engaged, hoping for the best for their kids and equipped mentally and physically to weather this economic hardship and get their kids a better life. And parents who wanted so badly to be able to do that for their kid but nobody in their family had made it yet so.....how could they expect more. School was not for them. And of course some bad, selfish, self indulgent parents who had various boyfriends and girlfriends and drugs/alcohol in the house and fights and ended up in the newspaper--front page, a couple of them. Not different than the rich parents, except the rich ones kept their messes out of the local papers.

Don't judge. People do their best, most of them. Some just look at the things other kids' families can afford and they see the tvs and the video games and smart phones and fancy shoes, etc. Those are attainable. College? Hell, finishing high school is a dream for some of them.

Don't judge. Extend a hand. Could be someday you will be the one in need.
 
If you're a good parent, you're doing society serious harm. To ensure equity, don't read to your children, don't speak to your children, keep your child's expectations low. Shame on anyone who tries to give their child an edge in life. That's to the OP, I'll stop reading to my children and offering them encouragement. I'll just plop them in front of a t.v. For the good of society, of course.

Clearly your parents were excellent citizens, and severely neglected to teach you how to reason and think critically, if that's what you take from the OP.

If you have time to watch t.v., you have time to read to your kids. Children's books? They're like a dollar at the thrift store. Not encouraging your children? WTF is wrong with you? Don't blame others for your own failing.

Who said her parents had time to watch TV?

Seems more plausible that they would use the TV as somewhere to park the kid while they were out at their second or third jobs.

It seems your parents also aided society by not stimulating your imagination - or is that lack entirely genetic?
 
If you have time to watch t.v., you have time to read to your kids. Children's books? They're like a dollar at the thrift store. Not encouraging your children? WTF is wrong with you? Don't blame others for your own failing.
Trausti, you are the one who is claiming that it's all genetic. So which is it?
 
The entire comic is debunked because Paula is watching a TV? Something that can be bought at a pawn shop or garage sale for fifty bucks, perhaps by Paula's parents before she was born.

I'll bet that conservatives would support donations of books and blocks to low-income families on the grounds that such things are too important to deprive children of them.
 
TV is child care for those who can’t afford a babysitter. They are likely not to budge during the overlap of mom and dad’s work schedule. The worst that will likely happen is junior eats an entire bag of potato chips.

I figure poor people have kids because they fall in love and for a time they are happy and have hope for the future and maybe the economy is doing good so they have a kid or two and maybe an accident too. Who here didn’t have a little accident running around the house? But then life returns and starts kicking them. You try to put on a good face for the kids but they can tell. They see your frustration. See that life has worn mom and dad down and they carry this with them. Now play this out generation after generation after generation of bad attitudes and worn out lives and the younger generation always observing the older. From the outside looking in a narrow minded person might just shake their head and say, why did they ever have kids? Never realizing for a brief period of time, life was cruel and allowed them to be happy.
 
The entire comic is debunked because Paula is watching a TV? Something that can be bought at a pawn shop or garage sale for fifty bucks, perhaps by Paula's parents before she was born.

I'll bet that conservatives would support donations of books and blocks to low-income families on the grounds that such things are too important to deprive children of them.

Oh please, this is america, the poor are demonized in this society, no one gives a shit about them, we (the law) guns them down in the streets with impunity and mass incarcerates them to avoid dealing with social issues. We allow their children to drink contaminated public water; leaded if you please.
 
TV is child care for those who can’t afford a babysitter. They are likely not to budge during the overlap of mom and dad’s work schedule. The worst that will likely happen is junior eats an entire bag of potato chips.

I figure poor people have kids because they fall in love and for a time they are happy and have hope for the future and maybe the economy is doing good so they have a kid or two and maybe an accident too. Who here didn’t have a little accident running around the house? But then life returns and starts kicking them. You try to put on a good face for the kids but they can tell. They see your frustration. See that life has worn mom and dad down and they carry this with them. Now play this out generation after generation after generation of bad attitudes and worn out lives and the younger generation always observing the older. From the outside looking in a narrow minded person might just shake their head and say, why did they ever have kids? Never realizing for a brief period of time, life was cruel and allowed them to be happy.

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https://www.epi.org/productivity-pay-gap/

Coming to a neighborhood near you.
 
The hell with this.

ANY person should be able to have a child in this country and expect equal opportunity for them. I know you're being silly, but it's not always about "losing" your money. Sometimes people actually get...........SHOCK...........pregnant while poor!!

If you can't afford children, maybe you shouldn't have like five of them.
You're right. If you unexpectedly lose your job, you should shoot your family dead.
P.S.: Paula's parents seem to be able to afford a big screen TV. But apparently not blocks and books. Hmm.
Again, spot on. If you unexpectedly lose your job, you should certainly sell your TV for ten percent of what it cost you, in order to buy toys for the kids you just killed.

I don't know why poor people complain; all of their problems have really obvious and simple solutions. They must be fucking idiots.

Fortunately, it's impossible that you might ever suffer a series of setbacks that leave you unexpectedly poor. Completely impossible. Couldn't ever happen. No siree. Not something you will ever need to worry about. And if you were to (completely needlessly) start to worry about it, you can always take comfort in the unquestionable fact that you are so much smarter and better than them, so you would be able to bounce back straight away.

But just in case, perhaps you should make damn sure that they all know how clever and superior you are. Just in case. Stiff your waitress out of her tip, and get your friendly local cops to move on the bums sleeping in the park. Or if you don't like to be confrontational, just vote for the guy who wants to take away their food stamps, and cut minimum wage. That'll show 'em.

Phew! Problem solved.
 
The hell with this.

ANY person should be able to have a child in this country and expect equal opportunity for them. I know you're being silly, but it's not always about "losing" your money. Sometimes people actually get...........SHOCK...........pregnant while poor!!

You're right. If you unexpectedly lose your job, you should shoot your family dead.

Again, spot on. If you unexpectedly lose your job, you should certainly sell your TV for ten percent of what it cost you, in order to buy toys for the kids you just killed.

I don't know why poor people complain; all of their problems have really obvious and simple solutions. They must be fucking idiots.

Fortunately, it's impossible that you might ever suffer a series of setbacks that leave you unexpectedly poor. Completely impossible. Couldn't ever happen. No siree. Not something you will ever need to worry about. And if you were to (completely needlessly) start to worry about it, you can always take comfort in the unquestionable fact that you are so much smarter and better than them, so you would be able to bounce back straight away.

But just in case, perhaps you should make damn sure that they all know how clever and superior you are. Just in case. Stiff your waitress out of her tip, and get your friendly local cops to move on the bums sleeping in the park. Or if you don't like to be confrontational, just vote for the guy who wants to take away their food stamps, and cut minimum wage. That'll show 'em.

Phew! Problem solved.


Poor folk don't deserve to have children, but gotdamnit if they get pregnant, they damn sure better have that baby so I can deny any and all public assistance. That is reserved for corporate tax breaks/loopholes, ensuring folks like Jeff Bezos et.al. avoid any and all social responsibility as they concentrate and redistribute societal wealth, and helping brazillionaire sports team owners build their cathedrals for displays of militarism and patsiotism.
 
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If you can't afford children, maybe you shouldn't have like five of them.

I've read the comic three times now, and so help me I think Paula is an only child.

Has my reading comprehension declined since yesterday?
 
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