Paris: Dozens Killed In Terrorist Attack

[untermensche]

For the last decade on practically a weekly basis we hear of some innocents in Iraq of Afghanistan or Yemen being killed by US weapons.

I feel as bad for all those thousands of innocents as the innocent French today.

But the killing of innocents has gone on so long it drains one of empathy.

The only logical question now is will the US Congress change the name of Freedom fries back to French fries?

They did so in 2006.

As for being logical, why do you think using American weapons to commit crimes somehow absolves the actual perpetraor from responsibility of said crimes? The assailants in Paris reportedly used Kalashnikovs. According to your "logic" that would make Russia responsible.

It was the US using US weapons killing all those innocents.

It was in the news. Sometimes.

But the innocents of France are different.

They are worth far more than any innocent Iraqi the US killed.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Damn. Really are Syrian "refugees." The quislings occupying European capitols should pat themselves on the back.

View attachment 4736

Was there any verification of this? It'd seem way too early for a detail like that to be released by the French Investigators.

 

[maxparrish]

Jesus Fucking Christ - why is anyone trying to score political points during this horrendous tragedy? There is time enough for that when the killing has stopped and the facts are known.

I was kind of shocked how quickly it got to that point.

The attacks seem to imply a couple of things. This appears to be a number of coordinated, but relatively unsophisticated attacks. The big target was the Friendly between France and Germany. The bomb went off outside, not inside.

The whole ISIS angle is being exploited more by people with political points to try to make. It is impossible to say who did this other than they were likely Islamic Extremists (or if you are Alex Jones, the NWO).

No one doubts that the bloodbath of murders was committed by Muslims, although it is unclear which group they identify with. The surviving member of the group says they were Syrians, recruited my ISIS. Hostages report hearing one yell Allah Akbar, and others discuss Iraq and Syria in French. However, those "jayvees" carried off a very sophisticated operation.

The French have closed the country’s borders - which given their huge Muslim population means they closed it a few decades too late. Either the remaining killers are from that population, or are hiding among them - or long gone. (Sweden, wisely, closed its borders with Denmark and Germany).

The question is, will this wake up France and Europe to the threat? Will they (or Obama) realize there is no choice; ISIS and their allies must be exterminated, root and branch. At this point it does not matter if Assad returns to power, the feckless half-assed policies of Obama (and Europe) must end. Then the masses of so-called migrants should be shipped back to their countries of origin.

The message should be clear: kill on another if you like, but not one more Muslim "boot on the ground" will be tolerated in Europe.

 

[untermensche]

The question is, will this wake up France and Europe to the threat?

The threat of what?

Launching a massive and unprovoked invasion on an innocent nation, killing and torturing thousands of innocents, igniting sectarian hostilities that have been dormant for hundreds of years in the process, and creating a monster called ISIS that has so many easy recruits because so much harm has been done?

Yes we should guard against things like this and say "never again".

 

[Derec]

 

[Jingi walla]

Should France join Russia in having a serious attempt to destroy ISIS

 

[Ford]

The question is, will this wake up France and Europe to the threat?

The threat of what?

I thought that between this and the other threads ("Europe submits voluntarily" and "the barbarian invasion has begun") the message is clear:


Kill all the nasty brown people trying to come to Europe. If Europe had simply gunned down every Syrian refugee coming across the border and sunk every migrant boat crossing the sea, this death toll in Paris could have been avoided. The "see, I told you so" posters in this and those other threads are for all intents and purposes saying that brown people and Muslims are a threat which must be eliminated. Driven off and killed like any other invaders.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The question is, will this wake up France and Europe to the threat?

The threat of what?

Launching a massive and unprovoked invasion on an innocent nation, killing and torturing thousands of innocents, igniting sectarian hostilities that have been dormant for hundreds of years in the process, and creating a monster called ISIS that has so many easy recruits because so much harm has been done?

Yes we should guard against things like this and say "never again".

Based on the police response in the theater, they took the guys down very fast, so they clearly are taking the potential threats seriously by having good training.

As far as magically being able to prevent terrorism... well, that's just Hannity level conservotopia BS. Pandora's Box was opened in '03. It can't be closed.

- - - Updated - - -

Well, if you put a message in a JPG, that makes it credible.

 

[untermensche]

The threat of what?

I thought that between this and the other threads ("Europe submits voluntarily" and "the barbarian invasion has begun") the message is clear:


Kill all the nasty brown people trying to come to Europe. If Europe had simply gunned down every Syrian refugee coming across the border and sunk every migrant boat crossing the sea, this death toll in Paris could have been avoided. The "see, I told you so" posters in this and those other threads are for all intents and purposes saying that brown people and Muslims are a threat which must be eliminated. Driven off and killed like any other invaders.

What is amazing is how acutely people can see harm done to innocents when it is Muslims killing Europeans and are so blind to harm done to innocent Muslims when it is done by the US.

Every French victim will be known and some of their history will be known.

The thousands of innocents the US kills are faceless and nameless.

 

[Toni]

And right-wing individuals/groups.

Reality is mocking your hopes that it is some mythical right-wing militant group...evidence is mounting that it is an Islamic terror group.

Clearly you have not been paying any attention. Islamic terror groups are a form of right wing militant groups. They just reflect their own hate back at each other like two mirrors facing each other, repeating infinite images of the same damn ugly message.

 

[Derec]

Kill all the nasty brown people trying to come to Europe. If Europe had simply gunned down every Syrian refugee coming across the border and sunk every migrant boat crossing the sea, this death toll in Paris could have been avoided. The "see, I told you so" posters in this and those other threads are for all intents and purposes saying that brown people and Muslims are a threat which must be eliminated. Driven off and killed like any other invaders.

There is plenty of room between "kill them all" and "indiscriminately let millions of Muslims in without regard for numbers or background".

 

[Nexus]

There is plenty of room between "kill them all" and "indiscriminately let millions of Muslims in without regard for numbers or background".

Why are you attacking false dilemma fallacies, check your privilege.

 

[Ford]

Kill all the nasty brown people trying to come to Europe. If Europe had simply gunned down every Syrian refugee coming across the border and sunk every migrant boat crossing the sea, this death toll in Paris could have been avoided. The "see, I told you so" posters in this and those other threads are for all intents and purposes saying that brown people and Muslims are a threat which must be eliminated. Driven off and killed like any other invaders.

There is plenty of room between "kill them all" and "indiscriminately let millions of Muslims in without regard for numbers or background".

There's more room between "let's try to absorb these refugees" and "all Muslims are terrorists."

 

[Derec]

There's more room between "let's try to absorb these refugees"

Which is impossible given their numbers and cultural differences. Also they are mostly coming from safe third countries like Turkey and should stay there.

and "all Muslims are terrorists."

Certainly not all, but a frightening percentage are. Certainly a couple of orders of magnitude more than any other religious or cultural group.

 

[Ford]

Certainly not all, but a frightening percentage are.

What's the percentage?

I mean, there are well over a billion Muslims world wide. How many Muslim terrorists are there?


A "frightening percentage" would be more than half...are there half a billion terrorists out there?

 

[Derec]

What's the percentage?
I mean, there are well over a billion Muslims world wide. How many Muslim terrorists are there?

Enough to cause mayhem whenever there are significant number of Muslims: Israel, India, Europe, US, Indonesia, etc.

A "frightening percentage" would be more than half

No, it would not.

 

[untermensche]

The question is; How many Muslims are terrorists because of harm done to them or people they care about by the US or some other Western power?

The terrorist has a religion.

But more importantly they have a past.

 

[Derec]

The question is; How many Muslims are terrorists because of harm done to them or people they care about by the US or some other Western power?

In other words: blame the victim. You can't blame the terrorists themselves because they are brown, so they not only can't be racist, they can't be held responsible for any of their actions. </progressoauthoritarian>

 

[untermensche]

The question is; How many Muslims are terrorists because of harm done to them or people they care about by the US or some other Western power?

In other words: blame the victim. You can't blame the terrorists themselves because they are brown, so they not only can't be racist, they can't be held responsible for any of their actions. </progressoauthoritarian>

The people in Iraq and Afghanistan ARE the victims of US aggression.

This is a question you seem to be trying to run away from as fast as you can?

What do we say?

The US created 100 terrorists with it's terrorist attack of Iraq?

1000? 10,000?

What do we think? It certainly created a whole lot of people who wouldn't give a damn if Americans were killed by terrorists.

 

[maxparrish]

Reality is mocking your hopes that it is some mythical right-wing militant group...evidence is mounting that it is an Islamic terror group.

Clearly you have not been paying any attention. Islamic terror groups are a form of right wing militant groups. They just reflect their own hate back at each other like two mirrors facing each other, repeating infinite images of the same damn ugly message.

Apparently sufficient attention to note the Nice Squirrel was making a distinction between two groups; Muslim terrorists and real/imagined right-wing anti-immigrant groups. As NS, myself, and Europol (and most of the civilized world) knows these groups are distinctly different folks, I'll immediately file your complaint with the website: www.is_nationalsocialism_leftwing.com.

They have an interest in derails into pedantic political taxonomy disputes - I don't.