Police Misconduct Catch All Thread

[Loren Pechtel]

I spent part of a 40 year career in the claims business handling claims for insurance companies that insured police departments handling all kinds of claims from simple automobile accidents to cops beating up cuffed non-resisting suspects.

In one case a femal office thoght a man was taking to long to get out of his car after she ordered him to get out. She drug him out and put her knee in his chest.

It turns out that he was slow getting out because he was recovering from open heart surgery.

As I've said repeatedly the real problem is the low level abuse, not the shootings.

 

[ZiprHead]

I spent part of a 40 year career in the claims business handling claims for insurance companies that insured police departments handling all kinds of claims from simple automobile accidents to cops beating up cuffed non-resisting suspects.

In one case a femal office thoght a man was taking to long to get out of his car after she ordered him to get out. She drug him out and put her knee in his chest.

It turns out that he was slow getting out because he was recovering from open heart surgery.

As I've said repeatedly the real problem is the low level abuse, not the shootings.

Yeah, shooting someone is no big deal.

Do you even realize what you sound like?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I spent part of a 40 year career in the claims business handling claims for insurance companies that insured police departments handling all kinds of claims from simple automobile accidents to cops beating up cuffed non-resisting suspects.

In one case a femal office thoght a man was taking to long to get out of his car after she ordered him to get out. She drug him out and put her knee in his chest.

It turns out that he was slow getting out because he was recovering from open heart surgery.

As I've said repeatedly the real problem is the low level abuse, not the shootings.

Yeah, shooting someone is no big deal.

Do you even realize what you sound like?

The issue is whether it's wrongful or not. And he's pointing to exactly the sort of thing that is where the actual wrongs are.

 

[Gospel]

Charges dismissed against man seen on video being Tasered and punched by Phoenix police

All charges have been dismissed against a Black man who is deaf and disabled and was seen on video being Tasered and punched by Phoenix police officers.

www.abc15.com

McAlpin, who is deaf and has cerebral palsy, was facing felony aggravated assault and resisting arrest charges after he was repeatedly punched and tasered by a pair of Phoenix police officers.

The arrest stems from a morning call from Circle K employees who reported that a White man was causing problems and wouldn’t leave the store, records show.

While being trespassed, the man claimed he was assaulted by a Black man and pointed across the street at McAlpin.

 

[Gospel]

Let me get this straight. Circle K calls the police to trespass a man. When the officers arrive, the man claims he was assaulted by a man across the street. Instead of dealing with the man being trespassed, the police leave him at the store and pursue the other man with extreme prejudice. Camera footage later reveals the trespassing man lied.

It turns out the man who was treated with extreme prejudice and spent 24 days in jail is being blamed because his disabilities made it difficult for law enforcement to arrest him, despite him having done nothing wrong.

Did I get that right? The last sentence is my prediction of what arguments in favor of law enforcements behavior would look like in this case.

 

[scombrid]

Like a script from "Family Guy". Peter is getting trespassed for drunk and disorderly and points across the street at Cleveland so the cops leave Peter and run over and beat the shit out of the black guy. Sad to know this is real.

But there are plenty of people on youtube defending the cops. I guess they should have just shot him and justified it by claiming they thought his phone was a gun which justified them "fearing for their lives".

 

[Shadowy Man]

As I've said repeatedly the real problem is the low level abuse, not the shootings.

Yeah, shooting someone is no big deal.

Do you even realize what you sound like?

The issue is whether it's wrongful or not. And he's pointing to exactly the sort of thing that is where the actual wrongs are.

Police shootings are not actually wrong, then?

any of them?

 

[laughing dog]

Let me get this straight. Circle K calls the police to trespass a man. When the officers arrive, the man claims he was assaulted by a man across the street. Instead of dealing with the man being trespassed, the police leave him at the store and pursue the other man with extreme prejudice. Camera footage later reveals the trespassing man lied.

It turns out the man who was treated with extreme prejudice and spent 24 days in jail is being blamed because his disabilities made it difficult for law enforcement to arrest him, despite him having done nothing wrong.

Did I get that right? The last sentence is my prediction of what arguments in favor of law enforcements behavior would look like in this case.

Yeah, you are getting it right. Of course the only reason this victim's disabilities made it difficult for those thugs to arrest him is that those thugs didn't want to arrest him peacefully. If they had, instead of yelling at him from behind, they could have easily walked in front of him and tried to communicate.

Really, those two assholes should be awaiting trial without bail.

 

[Gospel]

The judge and prosecutor also need to fall in line.

 

[lpetrich]

LAPD raid goes bad after gun allegedly sucked onto MRI machine

An officer with the Los Angeles Police Department found out the hard way that you can’t take metal near an MRI machine after their rifle flew out of their hands and became attached to the machine during a pot raid gone bad, according to a federal lawsuit filed last week.

The incident’s details were described in a lawsuit filed by the owners of a Los Angeles medical imaging center, who allege that their business was wrongly targeted by LAPD during a raid in October 2023 The lawsuit was first reported on by Law360.com.

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Officers allegedly raided the diagnostic center, located in the Van Nuys neighborhood of Los Angeles, thinking it was a front for an illegal cannabis cultivation facility, pointing to higher-than-usual energy use and the “distinct odor” of cannabis plants, according to the lawsuit.

The officers then released the employee and told her to call a manager, the lawsuit said, while they continued to wander around various rooms of the facility.

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At one point, an officer walked into an MRI room, past a sign warning that metal was prohibited inside, with his rifle “dangling… in his right hand, with an unsecured strap,” the lawsuit said. The MRI machine’s magnetic force then allegedly sucked his rifle across the room, pinning it against the machine.

An officer then allegedly pulled a sealed emergency release button that shut the MRI machine down, deactivating it, evaporating thousands of liters of helium gas and damaging the machine in the process. The officer then grabbed his rifle and left the room, leaving behind a magazine filled with bullets on the office floor, according to the lawsuit.

LAPD Raids Medical Lab For (Nonexistent) Weed, Get Gun Stuck In An MRI Machine - Above the Law

LAPD officer lost gun in MRI machine during mistargeted raid, report says | KTLA

 

[Loren Pechtel]

LAPD raid goes bad after gun allegedly sucked onto MRI machine

An officer with the Los Angeles Police Department found out the hard way that you can’t take metal near an MRI machine after their rifle flew out of their hands and became attached to the machine during a pot raid gone bad, according to a federal lawsuit filed last week.

The incident’s details were described in a lawsuit filed by the owners of a Los Angeles medical imaging center, who allege that their business was wrongly targeted by LAPD during a raid in October 2023 The lawsuit was first reported on by Law360.com.

...
Officers allegedly raided the diagnostic center, located in the Van Nuys neighborhood of Los Angeles, thinking it was a front for an illegal cannabis cultivation facility, pointing to higher-than-usual energy use and the “distinct odor” of cannabis plants, according to the lawsuit.

The officers then released the employee and told her to call a manager, the lawsuit said, while they continued to wander around various rooms of the facility.

...
At one point, an officer walked into an MRI room, past a sign warning that metal was prohibited inside, with his rifle “dangling… in his right hand, with an unsecured strap,” the lawsuit said. The MRI machine’s magnetic force then allegedly sucked his rifle across the room, pinning it against the machine.

An officer then allegedly pulled a sealed emergency release button that shut the MRI machine down, deactivating it, evaporating thousands of liters of helium gas and damaging the machine in the process. The officer then grabbed his rifle and left the room, leaving behind a magazine filled with bullets on the office floor, according to the lawsuit.

LAPD Raids Medical Lab For (Nonexistent) Weed, Get Gun Stuck In An MRI Machine - Above the Law

LAPD officer lost gun in MRI machine during mistargeted raid, report says | KTLA

I hope they get a big payout over this.

And, personally, I do not consider excessive power usage to be adequate justification for a warrant, period.

 

[Gospel]

Looks like the officer thought his badge exempted him from the laws of physics.

 

[Shadowy Man]

LAPD raid goes bad after gun allegedly sucked onto MRI machine

...
Officers allegedly raided the diagnostic center, located in the Van Nuys neighborhood of Los Angeles, thinking it was a front for an illegal cannabis cultivation facility, pointing to higher-than-usual energy use and the “distinct odor” of cannabis plants, according to the lawsuit.

And, personally, I do not consider excessive power usage to be adequate justification for a warrant, period.

Don't forget the "distinct odor" of cannabis plants.

 

[Coleman Smith]

Jordan Brown sues for wrongful conviction; spent nearly decade in prison for 2009 death of Kenzie Houk

A former Lawrence County man who spent much of his childhood in prison after being convicted in a 2009 homicide is...

www.ellwoodcityledger.com

I watched a 2020 show on this case tonight and noted that because the first interview with the suspect was not recorded there is no evidence that that the suspect was read his Miranda Rights.

Additionally would an 11 year old understand and make an informed decision on the legal cosequences of waiving his Miranda rights?

[Edited for typo at the author's request]

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Looks like the officer thought his badge exempted him from the laws of physics.

I don't think so. Rather, I think the officer believed the whole thing was a cover, that it was really a grow. He didn't respect the MRI because he didn't think it was real.

 

[robnisch]

Looks like the officer thought his badge exempted him from the laws of physics.

I don't think so. Rather, I think the officer believed the whole thing was a cover, that it was really a grow. He didn't respect the MRI because he didn't think it was real.

This looks more like a job for tax division or the control board not the SWAT team.
Stupid!

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Looks like the officer thought his badge exempted him from the laws of physics.

I don't think so. Rather, I think the officer believed the whole thing was a cover, that it was really a grow. He didn't respect the MRI because he didn't think it was real.

This looks more like a job for tax division or the control board not the SWAT team.
Stupid!

Tax division?

The cops thought it was an illegal grow operation. That's not something you send the tax guys to.

I have a big problem with high power use being considered adequate evidence of a grow operation, but I don't see cops thinking the laws of physics don't apply.

 

[Gospel]

Good grief it was an obvious joke about officers who think they are above the law.

 

[robnisch]

Looks like the officer thought his badge exempted him from the laws of physics.

I don't think so. Rather, I think the officer believed the whole thing was a cover, that it was really a grow. He didn't respect the MRI because he didn't think it was real.

This looks more like a job for tax division or the control board not the SWAT team.
Stupid!

Tax division?

The cops thought it was an illegal grow operation. That's not something you send the tax guys to.

I have a big problem with high power use being considered adequate evidence of a grow operation, but I don't see cops thinking the laws of physics don't apply.

My point was that people that grow illegally are probably just trying to avoid the bureaucratic hassle involved in the licensing process.
And the taxes.
I don't know about CA, but in Alaska you need a Lawyer to navigate the paper work.
It is probably the same in most states.
That's why I voted against legalizing it when it came up in Alaska.

 

[TomC]

That's why I voted against legalizing it when it came up in Alaska.

That makes no sense to me.

The best way to avoid bureaucratic hassling is to take the government out of the process. In other words, legalize.

How hard is that to understand?
Tom