Police Misconduct Catch All Thread

[laughing dog]

Here (San Diego Police Man shoots fleeing teenager) is a report with more information on the story marc reported.

Mr. Wilson was fleeing a teenager who shot and missed him when the Officer Gold (2 year veteran of the police) shot Mr. Wilson. While administering CPR to the dying teenager, the police report finding a handgun under the right thigh on Mr. Wilson.

Quite an exercise in the reporters not wanting to say things which aren't truly proven.

If the gun was found under his thigh it pretty much has to have already been out. And out pretty much has to be in his hand.

Not in this time space continuum.

 

[ZiprHead]

 

[Derec]

Actual article about the incident.

Broward deputy not facing investigation after viral video shows him tackling young cyclist, officials say

 

[laughing dog]

Did the deputy deliberately assault yhat bicycle rider with his vehicle?

 

[crazyfingers]

Did the deputy deliberately assault yhat bicycle rider with his vehicle?

I'm not OK with this but this story provides more information.

Cops riding their cars into this was stupid as fuck. Better ways to handle kids who are causing a traffic problem.

Broward deputy not facing investigation after viral video shows him tackling young cyclist, officials say

According to the Broward Sheriff's Office, the cyclists' actions are part of an "ongoing, organized pattern of reckless behavior."

www.cbsnews.com

 

[laughing dog]

No story indicates whether it was z deliberate collision or an accident. The former is unacceptable but the latter is understandable if regrettable.

 

[crazyfingers]

No story indicates whether it was z deliberate collision or an accident. The former is unacceptable but the latter is understandable if regrettable.

The cops driving their cars into that crowd of kids zooming around every direction was asking for an accident.

I'd say that the cops drove in there with a willful disregard for safety. They should have gone in on foot.

 

[Tigers!]

This incident occured in Nov. 2024 in NSW.
Its not just police brutality, but incompotent police armed with lethal weapons.
She was 95, on a walker and had dementia.

 

[Spacetime Inhabitant]

This incident occured in Nov. 2024 in NSW.
Its not just police brutality, but incompotent police armed with lethal weapons.
She was 95, on a walker and had dementia.

There are several bad aspects about this case. He was found guilty by a jury prior to Christmas, and the judge decided to delay sentencing for several months so he could spend Christmas with his family. He tried to sue the NSW police for "unfair dismissal". When he was sentenced it was to two months community service. The prosecution fortunately is appealing this appallingly low "sentence". Also although the charge was manslaughter, it should have been murder, but as murder convictions are harder to get a jury to convict on, the prosecution went with a charge they rightfully thought the jury would convict on, although everyone was then surprised by the judge's leniency.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Here (San Diego Police Man shoots fleeing teenager) is a report with more information on the story marc reported.

Mr. Wilson was fleeing a teenager who shot and missed him when the Officer Gold (2 year veteran of the police) shot Mr. Wilson. While administering CPR to the dying teenager, the police report finding a handgun under the right thigh on Mr. Wilson.

Quite an exercise in the reporters not wanting to say things which aren't truly proven.

If the gun was found under his thigh it pretty much has to have already been out. And out pretty much has to be in his hand.

Not in this time space continuum.

By what mechanism does a gun end up under his thigh if it was not out at the time he went down? A gun tucked in clothing very well might spill out if the person with it went down, but that will happen after they go down and thus it won't end up underneath them. To be underneath it must have fallen before he did.

 

[bilby]

By what mechanism does a gun end up under his thigh if it was not out at the time he went down?

By the "reality is stranger than you would like to think" mechanism.

Stuff ends up in places that make you say "WTF?" more often than not.

 

[bilby]

By what mechanism does a gun end up under his thigh if it was not out at the time he went down?

By the "reality is stranger than you would like to think" mechanism.

Stuff ends up in places that make you say "WTF?" more often than not.

 

[ZiprHead]

Here (San Diego Police Man shoots fleeing teenager) is a report with more information on the story marc reported.

Mr. Wilson was fleeing a teenager who shot and missed him when the Officer Gold (2 year veteran of the police) shot Mr. Wilson. While administering CPR to the dying teenager, the police report finding a handgun under the right thigh on Mr. Wilson.

Quite an exercise in the reporters not wanting to say things which aren't truly proven.

If the gun was found under his thigh it pretty much has to have already been out. And out pretty much has to be in his hand.

Not in this time space continuum.

By what mechanism does a gun end up under his thigh if it was not out at the time he went down? A gun tucked in clothing very well might spill out if the person with it went down, but that will happen after they go down and thus it won't end up underneath them. To be underneath it must have fallen before he did.

Back pocket. CPR means his back was on the ground.

 

[laughing dog]

Here (San Diego Police Man shoots fleeing teenager) is a report with more information on the story marc reported.

Mr. Wilson was fleeing a teenager who shot and missed him when the Officer Gold (2 year veteran of the police) shot Mr. Wilson. While administering CPR to the dying teenager, the police report finding a handgun under the right thigh on Mr. Wilson.

Quite an exercise in the reporters not wanting to say things which aren't truly proven.

If the gun was found under his thigh it pretty much has to have already been out. And out pretty much has to be in his hand.

Not in this time space continuum.

By what mechanism does a gun end up under his thigh if it was not out at the time he went down? A gun tucked in clothing very well might spill out if the person with it went down, but that will happen after they go down and thus it won't end up underneath them. To be underneath it must have fallen before he did.

My response addressed your “And out pretty much has to be in his hand”, something your apologia ignored.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Note the selective editing, the video "starts" just at the moment of impact, we see nothing of what caused the impact. And note a bunch of cop cars there. And note the swarm of bicycles milling in the street way too close to vehicles. Even without the other article my first reaction would be that the kid made a mistake and got a bit too close.

 

[laughing dog]

Note the selective editing, the video "starts" just at the moment of impact, we see nothing of what caused the impact. And note a bunch of cop cars there. And note the swarm of bicycles milling in the street way too close to vehicles. Even without the other article my first reaction would be that the kid made a mistake and got a bit too close.

Riiight, because the normal reaction to bumping a kid on a bicycle with your car is to jump out and tackle them.

 

[crazyfingers]

Note the selective editing, the video "starts" just at the moment of impact, we see nothing of what caused the impact. And note a bunch of cop cars there. And note the swarm of bicycles milling in the street way too close to vehicles. Even without the other article my first reaction would be that the kid made a mistake and got a bit too close.

The cops should not have driven their cars into that mess. Yes the kids were causing problems but the cops were stupid to drive cars into it. It was asking for an accident.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Did the deputy deliberately assault yhat bicycle rider with his vehicle?

I'm not OK with this but this story provides more information.

Cops riding their cars into this was stupid as fuck. Better ways to handle kids who are causing a traffic problem.

Broward deputy not facing investigation after viral video shows him tackling young cyclist, officials say

According to the Broward Sheriff's Office, the cyclists' actions are part of an "ongoing, organized pattern of reckless behavior."

www.cbsnews.com

And what's your "better" way?

Bikes can outrun cops on foot. They have to get in and grab in order to do anything, a kid cut it too close--note that it's not a frontal impact, there's no way the driver intended that.

Two-wheel takeovers are a problem specifically because no good means of dealing with them exists.

 

[crazyfingers]

Did the deputy deliberately assault yhat bicycle rider with his vehicle?

I'm not OK with this but this story provides more information.

Cops riding their cars into this was stupid as fuck. Better ways to handle kids who are causing a traffic problem.

Broward deputy not facing investigation after viral video shows him tackling young cyclist, officials say

According to the Broward Sheriff's Office, the cyclists' actions are part of an "ongoing, organized pattern of reckless behavior."

www.cbsnews.com

And what's your "better" way?

Bikes can outrun cops on foot. They have to get in and grab in order to do anything, a kid cut it too close--note that it's not a frontal impact, there's no way the driver intended that.

Two-wheel takeovers are a problem specifically because no good means of dealing with them exists.

Anything is better than hitting a kid on a bike with a car. Sure the kids can run/ride away but what was the goal? To handcuff the kids and throw them in jail? Or just to disperse them?

I'd describe driving cars into that as reckless endangerment.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Did the deputy deliberately assault yhat bicycle rider with his vehicle?

I'm not OK with this but this story provides more information.

Cops riding their cars into this was stupid as fuck. Better ways to handle kids who are causing a traffic problem.

Broward deputy not facing investigation after viral video shows him tackling young cyclist, officials say

According to the Broward Sheriff's Office, the cyclists' actions are part of an "ongoing, organized pattern of reckless behavior."

www.cbsnews.com

And what's your "better" way?

Bikes can outrun cops on foot. They have to get in and grab in order to do anything, a kid cut it too close--note that it's not a frontal impact, there's no way the driver intended that.

Two-wheel takeovers are a problem specifically because no good means of dealing with them exists.

Anything is better than hitting a kid on a bike with a car. Sure the kids can run/ride away but what was the goal? To handcuff the kids and throw them in jail? Or just to disperse them?

I'd describe driving cars into that as reckless endangerment.

What potential for harm was there with that impact? Basically zero.

And if you simply disperse them the problem just shows up elsewhere. The world often has no good answers. I do not believe this was deliberate but even if it was it's less force hitting his wheel than it is tackling him.