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Okay, that is how fucking ridiculous something needs to be to know Trump didn’t day that.
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Okay, that is how fucking ridiculous something needs to be to know Trump didn’t day that.
Trump said it sarcastically to troll the media. And it hilariously worked. People actually thought he was serious. Memes came out in full force by the idiots thinking they got Trump once again. LOL!
There has been countless "Got ya's!" by the insane media since Trump took office. Yet, he's still standing at that podium day after day. Must drive people crazy.
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Bullshit.
Trump explained he said it sarcastically. No one would ever seriously suggest to inject Lysol. C'mon guys!
When Obama said, "I visited all 48 states" you guys chalked it up to just a mental flub. You weren't beating Obama over the head every day about it like you would if Trump said that same ting.
Please try and be fair.
You started off saying he said it sarcastically and now you are comparing it to "a mental flub"
It's absolutely fair to say Trump was serious when he said it and is now only backpedaling. If he was sarcastic, why didn't he clarify this at the time? Why is he only changing his tune when the backlash is so prominent?
Most importantly; if you were right about him being sarcastic (you aren't), do you think it's appropriate for the President to try out new comedic material in the middle of a daily press briefing during a pandemic?
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Donald Trump is not Andy Kaufmann. And the reaction of Dr. Birx when he was talking was not that of a professional that was amused. I've seen deer looking at headlights that appeared less stunned.
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So, i wonder what the joke was?
Every joke has a victim. The pompous banker, the humorless accountant, the drunk, the shipwreck, Karen.
'Sarcasm' is a form of humor where the victim is the imaginary part of the audience that does not 'get' that it's a joke. The format us to claim something absurd, which we all know is total BS, but we laugh at the idea that someone, somewhere, would accept it as a truth.
The problem with calling this sarcasm is that no one 'got' the joke. No one gets Trump's 'jokes.'
Trump's Deranged Followers say this joke trolled the media. For that to be true, then there would have to be a group that found it funny to imagine someone taking bleach. They would have to have known he was joking BEFORE HE TOLD EVERYONE HE WAS JOKING.
Thing is, his audience would be his base, right? If he's trolling the media, it's the Trump voter he wants to amuse.
But his base are the people being harmed by this 'joke.' The ones most likely to seek out his quack cures and unfiltered utterances.
His followers are the ones thinking the virus is a hoax, a media fantasy, an anti-trump political attack, exposing themselves and others to their cost.
No comedian works to kill off the people who laugh. Critics, maybe, but not the following.
So, no, 'it's a joke' doesn't work any better than any other lie he's shit out.
Every joke has a victim. The pompous banker, the humorless accountant, the drunk, the shipwreck, Karen.
'Sarcasm' is a form of humor where the victim is the imaginary part of the audience that does not 'get' that it's a joke. The format us to claim something absurd, which we all know is total BS, but we laugh at the idea that someone, somewhere, would accept it as a truth.
The problem with calling this sarcasm is that no one 'got' the joke. No one gets Trump's 'jokes.'
Trump's Deranged Followers say this joke trolled the media. For that to be true, then there would have to be a group that found it funny to imagine someone taking bleach. They would have to have known he was joking BEFORE HE TOLD EVERYONE HE WAS JOKING.
Thing is, his audience would be his base, right? If he's trolling the media, it's the Trump voter he wants to amuse.
But his base are the people being harmed by this 'joke.' The ones most likely to seek out his quack cures and unfiltered utterances.
His followers are the ones thinking the virus is a hoax, a media fantasy, an anti-trump political attack, exposing themselves and others to their cost.
No comedian works to kill off the people who laugh. Critics, maybe, but not the following.
So, no, 'it's a joke' doesn't work any better than any other lie he's shit out.
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Yeah, because that's how responsible statesmen behave.
At a time when tens of thousands of citizens are dying.
Clearly an appropriate time for levity.
Who doesn't fondly recall FDR's hilarious joke on December 8, 1941, about how Pearl Harbor was the first time Honolulu had had a nip in the air?
Or G W Bush trolling the media on September 12, 2001. Man, he really made them look so silly - which is exactly what a President is meant to do during a disaster.
Oh, wait.
Let me spell this out for the hard of thinking.
If Trump was serious, then he is dangerously unsuitable to be President.
If Trump was joking, then he is dangerously unsuitable to be President.
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All of this. Every single bit.
If I may pile on...? Thanks.
FDR not only did not joke about Pearl Harbor, he made one of the most memorable rallying cries in any Presidential address ("a date which will live in infamy") and then proceeded to lead the nation through the worst war in human history. Just as he led the nation through the Dust Bowl and the Great Depression. Delivering his "fireside chats" over the radio, and working so hard to guide the country through the war that he died in office from the effort. He did all of this from the confines of a wheelchair.
While I blame George W. Bush for completely screwing up the Middle East (heavy lifting, to be sure), presiding over the worst economic disaster since the Great Depression, and damaging the reputation of the United States almost beyond repair, in those first few days following the worst attack on the US in our history, he publicly showed a steady hand of leadership. Comforting a shocked nation and rallying us to come together and rise up to confront the threat. Did he berate the media? No. In fact years later (after bungling the response and causing death and chaos in Iraq and surrounding nations we're still dealing with today) a reporter threw a shoe at him. He ducked. Then he deliberately downplayed the incident.
Trump makes George W. Bush look like a well-spoken, inspiring and reasonable leader by comparison. That's quite a feat.
As the death toll from COVID-19 in the US approaches the toll from the entire Vietnam War (we'll pass that milestone next week), Trump is picking fights with reporters, governors, and anyone who questions his response to the pandemic. He's bragging about his response to the pandemic (even as the US is far and away the nation with the highest number of infections and deaths), and has been shamelessly promoting the idea of reopening states and having everyone go back to work, which is hilariously sad considering his utter incompetence has not only led to tens of thousands of deaths, but tens of millions of jobs lost, trillions more in debt, and an economy that will take years to recover even if everyone drinks bleach and the pandemic goes away this weekend.
Worst. President. Ever.
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^Absolutely so!
Nobody got the 'sarcastic joke' until the Clownstick tried to pass it off as the explanation. The maker of Lysol didn't get the joke, as they put out an urgent warning.
Nor did the 100 or so people in Maryland calling in for advice.
https://twitter.com/MDMEMA/status/1...maryland-emergency-hotline-receives-more-than
Maryland Emergency Management Agency (MDMEMA)@MDMEMA·20h
ALERT: We have received several calls regarding questions about disinfectant use and #COVID19.
This is a reminder that under no circumstances should any disinfectant product be administered into the body through injection, ingestion or any other route.
If Clownstick was making a sarcastic joke that no one obviously got, he is one sick puppy to play such games during a presidential daily briefing on a pandemic. Or he is a dipshit Dotard. In this particular case, the dipshit Dotard is probably less bad...
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Yeah. Believe it or not, _I_ have made sarcastic jokes no one understood as humor.
Thing is, when I tell a joke and no one laughs, it's important to at least tell them it's a joke right then. Like, say 'tough room' before anyone goes and tells my wife or my boss that i can't be allowed out in public.
If you wait more than two hours, it looks like a piss-poor defense.
The Klown on The Simpsons, Krusty, once used it. "I was joking. When you look at me that way, it means I was joking!"
Which, incidentally, was a poor defense from Krusty, but actually sarcasm by the show's writers.
Thing is, when I tell a joke and no one laughs, it's important to at least tell them it's a joke right then. Like, say 'tough room' before anyone goes and tells my wife or my boss that i can't be allowed out in public.
If you wait more than two hours, it looks like a piss-poor defense.
The Klown on The Simpsons, Krusty, once used it. "I was joking. When you look at me that way, it means I was joking!"
Which, incidentally, was a poor defense from Krusty, but actually sarcasm by the show's writers.
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A couple of weeks ago, Fox News and Hannity were insisting that the real reason why President Trump's response to the pandemic was so ineffective was because he was so gosh darn busy dealing with the pointless Impeachment Trial that he didn't have any cycles left to deal with anything else (so really, this is all Nancy Pelosi's fault). That excuse petered out when Trump's political rally and golf schedule during the Impeachment Trial made the rounds.
But let's suppose it's true. Let's suppose that President Trump is burning the candle at both ends, dedicating every waking moment to solving this national crisis. Is now the time to be making jokes? Which would President Trump rather do--lead the country, play golf, or think of witty zingers? Which should he be doing?
But let's suppose it's true. Let's suppose that President Trump is burning the candle at both ends, dedicating every waking moment to solving this national crisis. Is now the time to be making jokes? Which would President Trump rather do--lead the country, play golf, or think of witty zingers? Which should he be doing?
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You know, just thinking out loud, but this could explain a lot.
"I only hire the best people."
"I'm a deal-maker."
"No one knows more about <subject X> than me."
"No President has been more persecuted than me."
"Putin looked me in the eye and said he didn't do it, so I believe him."
Maybe all this time--the whole time--he was just being sarcastic.
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MAGA: the sound of someone pukin'.
MAGA: the sound of someone pukin'.
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So, hey, everyone pushing this 'winnow out the weak' narrative? How some may, or even should die if tgat's what it takes for the economy to recover?
Could you provide your social media post from a few years back, where you stood on the whole Terry Schiavo issue?
Did you think, then, that it was cool if someone made directly lethal decisions in her place, without her direct, witnessed, written consent?
Or were you more on the side of 'life is supremely important, and every chance must be given, even if she's brain-dead this is murder?'
Asking for about two hundred million friends...
Could you provide your social media post from a few years back, where you stood on the whole Terry Schiavo issue?
Did you think, then, that it was cool if someone made directly lethal decisions in her place, without her direct, witnessed, written consent?
Or were you more on the side of 'life is supremely important, and every chance must be given, even if she's brain-dead this is murder?'
Asking for about two hundred million friends...
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How far has the virus actually spread? I tried to raise this elsewhere, but none of the "let 'em die" crew nor the "stay holed up for as long as it takes" contingent seems to want to discuss it.
It's thorny -
On one extreme if 99.9% of the (US) population has already been infected then the mortality rate is probably well below 0.1%, meaning that there's not a lot of downside still to come. But if only 0.2% of the population has been infected we are probably looking at millions of deaths still to come if we "let the virus loose". (The study results in NY released last night make that low bound extremely unlikely)
Since we have not tested any significant fraction of the population for antibodies, we have no idea really. Probability favors the truth being somewhere between those extremes. But nobody wants to venture a figure that would make it "okay" to do away with social distancing, stay home directives etc.
Only testing (for both antibodies and active cases) can reveal the truth, and we all know about the relationship between the TCFA* and the truth, which means that two outcomes are virtually assured:
1) This will be a prolonged and painful journey with a lot more deaths, and
2) Many people will remain self-quarantined for months on end, if not years
* Trump Crime Family Administration
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yes, it is, becausevthere are still so many questions.
The problem is we just don't know, can't know the exact level of safety required.
But i don't think guesses by people made because thry're tired of canned ravioli are in my best interests.
Trump had to explain it was sarcasm because the left has become inept at picking up jokes. Between them being obsessed with canceling people due to edgy jokes and their purity tests, they have lost all sense of humor. Conservatives are now leading the way for humor. Nothing is funny to the left anymore. They lost their joke detection.
Remember when Trump joked about a disabled reporter? The left lost their minds. Yet, South Park has a disabled character that looks very foolish. The movie "There's something about Mary" had a guy in it who pretended to be disabled in order to get a woman. If you laugh at an able-bodied man pretending to be disabled as a joke in a movie, then why can't you laugh at what Trump did?
That movie would never be made today with the PC crowd.