"Protester" Misconduct Catch All Thread

[Angry Floof]

(Of course if they were black, the gutters would be running with blood)

You mean these heavily armed, but unharmed, black guys?
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I don't see any rivers of blood. Not even a paper cut.

You also don't see them on the doorstep of an elected official, threatening them for something that didn't happen.

I'm going to make that my cover photo on Facebook. lol

 

[Derec]

I'm going to make that my cover photo on Facebook. lol

Extremist heavily armed militias are apparently "good" if their members have the correct skin color.

 

[Angry Floof]

I'm going to make that my cover photo on Facebook. lol

Extremist heavily armed militias are apparently "good" if their members have the correct skin color.

Yeah, that's the ticket!

No, Einstein. It's because it triggers cowardly, hypocritical, right wing authoritarian morons of the correct skin color.

 

[Derec]

So we have some more "protester" misconduct ...

And as usual, we have to start in Portland.

Occupation outside North Portland home continues, despite mayor’s condemnation, warning

Uncertainty heightened late Tuesday outside a North Portland home where 150 people huddled behind makeshift barricades to prevent the ouster of a Black and Indigenous family who owned the home for decades.
Police had clashed with demonstrators outside the Mississippi Avenue home hours earlier. Officers retreated, and occupiers dug in.
Mayor Ted Wheeler said late Tuesday that he had authorized police to “use all lawful means to end the illegal occupation.” Demonstrators remained outside the house late Tuesday night amid the rain.

Wheeler is a weak mayor. When police have to retreat in the face of extremist takeover of a city block, you are dealing with leadership unfit to serve.

The initial confrontation between police and protesters unfolded hours earlier after police arrived to help the property’s legal owner fence off the house. After the Kinney family failed to make payments on a second mortgage to what they contend was a predatory loan company, the lender sold the house to the highest bidder, a development company, at a 2018 foreclosure auction. The family unsuccessfully challenged their removal, with the final ruling that they must depart the property issued in September.

They were supposed to be evicted in September and they are still there?
And I suppose #BLM/Antifa believe that black and "indigenous" people should not have to pay their mortgages but should be able to live in a house for free?

William Nietzche, 35, walked through his childhood bedroom and pointed out the places where he said officers rifled through his belongings. The closet door in his childhood bedroom appeared to have been ripped off, leaving a small strip of wood still on its hinges. Nietzche and six others were arrested by officers who arrived at the home early Tuesday morning. Portland police said many of the people arrested were trespassing on the property.

Wait, Nietzsche? Oh, looks like that's an assumed name. Also turns out he is a "sovereign citizen", claiming that US laws don't apply to him because he is a "Moop" and thus follows "Moroccan Law".
Here’s what the ‘sovereign citizen’ defense is, and how it’s linked to the Portland ‘Red House’

Kinney, the son of the family living in the "Red House," has claimed to be a Moorish sovereign citizen since at least 2007.
In a YouTube video, Kinney said, “I am an aboriginal indigenous to the land.” In 2018, his parents lost their home to foreclosure, and Kinney — who changed his name to William X Nietzche — tried to fight the foreclosure in court, filing dozens of appeals.
“They have used this kangaroo court to try and eject my elderly mother and father on 20 or 30 occasions,” Kinney said in the video.
He continues to say he tried to “seize the court” under Moroccan law with a man named Omari Gibberi, but the video and court filings become hard to follow.

Turns out he is not what is normally referred to as "indigenous" (i.e. Amerindian) but rather a black guy who believes his ancestors were here before anybody else for some reason.

Police said while officers were standing on the property’s perimeter, a crowd began to gather and officers were struck by projectiles such as rocks and paint-filled balloons.

Otherwise known as "peaceful protesting" in the #BLM/Antifa Newspeak.

After fence and cleanup crews finished their work Tuesday morning, officers left the area, police said. But the crowd pulled down the fence and entered the property, spurring police to return. Those officers were outnumbered by the 200 people who had amassed in opposition of the police action to remove the family.

Kate Brown should send in the National Guard if gutted Portland police force is not sufficient. Arrest the insurrectionists and charge them.

Protesters confronted police. Law enforcement ultimately retreated as police vehicles were damaged, including at least one window smashed. Protesters threw rocks at officers, and one sprayed a fire extinguisher at them, prompting an officer to deploy an impact munition.

More "peaceful protesting" I see. But if police use tear gas or pepper balls (sounds delicious, like spherical fried jalapeño poppers) on the rioters, then they are the bad guys.

The tense scene quieted after police left about 10:30 a.m. Demonstrators took the fencing erected earlier and built barricades around the property, known as the “Red House on Mississippi.” They piled up rocks and bricks, ostensibly as projectiles for any further clashes. Some people also prevented certain members of the media from accessing the area inside the barricaded zone.

This is CHAZ all over again, but this time in Portlandia. And Wheeler shows no more leadership qualities than Durkan.

And the "peaceful protesters" occupying territory in Portland are escalating by arming themselves. But I guess heavily armed left-wing militias are ok, right?

‘Long arms, Glocks, 300 people’: Red House is heavily armed

“A lot of the security you will see inside the zone is people with long arms, 9MM military Glocks and what-not along with stashes on the ground, either rocks, bottles, things to throw at the police, you know, if they decide to come in,” Johnson said.
“One of the things that I saw immediately when I went in was just how fortified it was, even a day later, probably double the armaments, double the security.”

And the Moopish family at the center of all this apparently owns another house in Portland. So the rubes occupying territory on their behalf and donating to their GoFundMe are almost as dumb as the rubes donating to Trump's "Stop the Steal"...

One of the things that they wanted was a letter from PPB stating that anyone that’s in the autonomous zone will not be arrested or prosecuted if they start to take down the barricades,” he said.

Wheeler must definitely not do that, or he will embolden #BLM/Antifa to do it again and again to get their way. All the occupiers must be arrested and prosecuted to the full extent of the law!

 

[Derec]

And Minneapolis ...

Three indicted on arson charges in fires at Minneapolis Target HQ during riot over false rumor

Three people were indicted Thursday in connection with fires set inside Target's world headquarters in downtown Minneapolis amid rioting over a false rumor that a Black man had been killed by police.
Indicted on Thursday in U.S. District Court with conspiracy to commit arson are Shador T.C. Jackson, 24; Victor D. Edwards, 31, of St. Paul; and Leroy L.P. Williams, 34, of Minneapolis.
Detention hearings have yet to be scheduled. Jackson and Williams are in custody, while Edwards is residing at a halfway house, the U.S. Attorney's Office said.
According to the federal indictments and other court documents:
Arson and looting erupted on the evening of Aug. 26, when Eddie Frank Sole Jr., 38, fatally shot himself on Nicollet Mall shortly after he was suspected of shooting and killing another man. Sole's suicide sparked a false rumor that police had killed him.

But I bet people on here will claim how it was all a "false flag" attack, right?

 

[Derec]

And NYC ...

This illustrates why it is dangerous to "protest" in the middle of the street. Especially if you accost motorists such that they feel threatened.

Multiple people injured after vehicle plows into crowd at New York protest

In one video showing the car’s movements, a small group of protesters could be seen gathered around the car as it slowly approached an intersection, with one person seemingly leaning over the front of the vehicle. The car suddenly accelerated, knocking aside the people who were blocking it and people who were in the intersection.

 

[Derec]

No, Einstein. It's because it triggers cowardly, hypocritical, right wing authoritarian morons of the correct skin color.

Nobody here is triggered (except you perhaps). You are also the only one who is hypocritical - you condemn conservative/white militias but support left-wing militias, especially when they are black.

I say pox on both their houses. Extremism - from either side - will get us nowhere.

 

[repoman]

Why bail money back to arrestee in Portland and not the person who paid bail?

 

[ZiprHead]

Do you think the Rittenhouse kid will return the bail money to Ricky Schroeder?

 

[repoman]

Actually, is Lin Wood gonna get it?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

This illustrates why it is dangerous to "protest" in the middle of the street. Especially if you accost motorists such that they feel threatened.

Multiple people injured after vehicle plows into crowd at New York protest

In one video showing the car’s movements, a small group of protesters could be seen gathered around the car as it slowly approached an intersection, with one person seemingly leaning over the front of the vehicle. The car suddenly accelerated, knocking aside the people who were blocking it and people who were in the intersection.

There's not enough there to see if it was self defense or not.

Protesters surrounding cars is a bad thing, though--all it takes is one getting too threatening and you have people who didn't intend to do anything wrong flying everywhere.

 

[fromderinside]

In one video showing the car’s movements, a small group of protesters could be seen gathered around the car as it slowly approached an intersection, with one person seemingly leaning over the front of the vehicle. The car suddenly accelerated, knocking aside the people who were blocking it and people who were in the intersection.

There's not enough there to see if it was self defense or not.

There is enough there in the quoted material to establish that the driver acted recklessly. It's an intersection for chrissake.

I find such scenes particularly disturbing when one blindly makes a right turn at an intersection without checking if someone has just stepped off the curb in to the cross walk. Blind rage?

I've dented many a hood with the palm of my hand in such events.

Why is Rush still alive?

 

[Derec]

More about RHAZ (Red House Autonomous Zone).





Hapless Mayor Wheeler is still not clearing out the idiotic occupation. It certainly is not helping that he banned the use of tear gas a few months ago. Some CS gas would really come in handy for smoking them out!

CNN wrote a really poorly researched (or else deliberately omitting important information) article.

Tensions over eviction of Black-Indigenous family in Portland reach boiling point as protesters clash with police

The Kinneys problems started in 2002, when they took out a loan against their home to pay for their 17-year-old son's legal fees, the Red House website says. And after years of disputes with their mortgage lender, their home ended up being sold at auction as a nonjudicial foreclosure in October 2018.

More like years of not paying their mortgage.
And their son's legal problems were because he killed a man due to reckless driving.

"The tactics we are facing, of sneaky and illegal foreclosure tactics, predatory banking and loans, elected judges who take campaign contributions from the real estate industry, coupled with violence from law enforcement and no real due process, have been used across this historically Black neighborhood to displace Black and poor people," Julie Metcalf Kinney, the family matriarch, said in a statement. "If Black and Indigenous lives matter in Portland, this must stop."

Tactics of expecting you to pay for the mortgage you took out. Nothing sneaky or illegal or predatory about that. But CNN lets that stand without correction.

Coya Crespin, with the Community Alliance of Tenants, told CNN affiliate KPTV the encampment at the Red House was not only for the Kinneys, but also in part to protest gentrification.
"This is systemic oppression. This is gentrification at real time," Crespin said.

Gentrification has become a real boogeyman on the far left. I guess they prefer run-down neighborhoods.

"There will be no autonomous zone in Portland," Wheeler tweeted. "It's time for the encampment and occupation to end. There are many ways to protest and work toward needed reform. Illegally occupying private property, openly carrying weapons, threatening and intimidating people are not among them."

And yet he is allowing this to go on for months. Send in the national guard and clear the occupation!

William Nietzche, the lawyer for the Kinney family, told CNN that they have filed federal and local cases fighting the eviction.
After losing one federal lawsuit in the District Court of Oregon last year, the family appealed to the Ninth Circuit Court, which denied their petition, records show.
Last month, Neitzche explained, the family appealed to the US Supreme Court and are waiting to hear if the court will take up their case.

LMAO! The cretins who wrote this piece are seriously so dumb that they didn't realize that William "Nietzche" is really William Kinney, the son whose "legal problems" prompted the family to take out the mortgage in the first place. He is not a lawyer, although he has been filing all these lawsuits. They also neglect to mention that the lawsuits are based on "sovereign citizen" ideology and thus as frivolous as the Trumpian Kraken lawsuits.

This local station, unlike CNN, did their homework.

Court documents detail more about Red House past as eviction protest continues in N. Portland

The reason for the loan was to pay for legal fees incurred by the homeowners son, William Kinney III, who goes by William X Nietzche now.
In February 2002, Kinney was involved in a crash at Franklin Street and 33rd Avenue in southeast Portland. He was 17 at the time.
[...]
[Kinney] took off down the street reaching speeds of 60 miles per hour. The car ran a stop sign and slammed into another car. The passenger in the other car, Patrick Goetz, 83, was taken to the hospital where he died. His wife, Ann Goetz, was injured.
[...]
The case wound its way through the court system where Kinney would take a plea deal and be sentenced to 72 months in prison and fined. Kinney would also do more time in prison when he was sentenced in 2010 on two counts of driving with a revoked license and possession of cocaine.

#BLM/Antifa really know how to pick their causes célèbres.

 

[laughing dog]

This illustrates why it is dangerous to "protest" in the middle of the street. Especially if you accost motorists such that they feel threatened.

Multiple people injured after vehicle plows into crowd at New York protest

In one video showing the car’s movements, a small group of protesters could be seen gathered around the car as it slowly approached an intersection, with one person seemingly leaning over the front of the vehicle. The car suddenly accelerated, knocking aside the people who were blocking it and people who were in the intersection.

There's not enough there to see if it was self defense or not.

Protesters surrounding cars is a bad thing, though--all it takes is one getting too threatening and you have people who didn't intend to do anything wrong flying everywhere.

Hurting people who do not intend you harm is not self-defense. At a minimum, it is reckless indifference.

 

[Derec]

Hurting people who do not intend you harm is not self-defense. At a minimum, it is reckless indifference.

I don't think she did it on purpose, but because she panicked when a mob swarmed around her car. These protesters really need to stop doing that.

 

[Derec]

There is enough there in the quoted material to establish that the driver acted recklessly. It's an intersection for chrissake.

Maybe so, but the protesters acted even more recklessly.

I find such scenes particularly disturbing when one blindly makes a right turn at an intersection without checking if someone has just stepped off the curb in to the cross walk. Blind rage?

This was not a traffic situation. It was a mob blockading the street and then surrounding the car. A potentially very dangerous situation.

Why is Rush still alive?

Huh?

 

[Derec]

Do you think the Rittenhouse kid will return the bail money to Ricky Schroeder?

Not comparable at all. Rittenhouse is being very vigorously prosecuted, whereas the "woke" Multnomah DA is dropping charges against most of the rioters and most of the rest get a slap on the wrist.

Portland’s ‘autonomous zone’ arrestees have charges immediately dropped

No wonder this shit keeps happening over and over again in Portland - there simply are no consequences! What use is it if police arrests rioters and occupiers if the pro-Antifa DA dismisses the charges?

I wonder if it will be possible to evict anybody black ever again in Portland.

The pro-Antifa DA is also refusing to bring charges against those arrested in the Thanksgiving vandalism spree.

Multnomah County District Attorney Rejects Cases of People Accused of Thanksgiving Morning Vandalism

Vandalism, rioting, even blockading streets and occupying territory, are now de facto legal, as long as you are a left-wing extremist!

 

[Angry Floof]

No, Einstein. It's because it triggers cowardly, hypocritical, right wing authoritarian morons of the correct skin color.

Nobody here is triggered (except you perhaps). You are also the only one who is hypocritical - you condemn conservative/white militias but support left-wing militias, especially when they are black.

I say pox on both their houses. Extremism - from either side - will get us nowhere.

Yet white supremacists are still a major threat to national security according to the people who actually have to know about and deal with such threats. Not just a major threat but Department of Homeland Security calls them "the most persistent and lethal threat within the U.S.," and here you are excusing and supporting this terrorist threat.

It's truly pitiful just how twisted your perceptions must be to cling desperately to the belief that somehow "both sides are the same," or rather, the side that does not have DHS or the FBI concerned is somehow worse.

I mean, is it actually satisfying to you to hold such extremely skewed views? I don't know how it could be. I would think you'd prefer truth, even if it contradicts your ridiculously false narrative.

 

[Derec]

Yet white supremacists are still a major threat to national security according to the people who actually have to know about and deal with such threats.

As are left-wing extremists that you support. The threats are different, but that doesn't make the threats by left-wing extremists and their allies and enablers in political power such as Mike Schmidt, Chesa Boudin and Kshama Sawant.

 

[Angry Floof]

Yet white supremacists are still a major threat to national security according to the people who actually have to know about and deal with such threats.

As are left-wing extremists that you support. The threats are different, but that doesn't make the threats by left-wing extremists and their allies and enablers in political power such as Mike Schmidt, Chesa Boudin and Kshama Sawant.

No, they are not. Stop editing out the part where that is shown to be not fucking true. DHS is the top LE entity that deals with actual threats to our country and they are not concerned about your fantasy about "left wing extremists." They are, however, concerned about the very real threat of right wing extremists.https://www.usnews.com/news/nationa...st-persistent-and-lethal-threat-within-the-us