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The only difference is that the satellite (i.e., the object) must be within the range of the eye when the light is reflected.
We can see stars that are 16,000 lightyears away with the naked eye.

What exactly do you think is "the range of the eye", and how can it possibly be less than 16,000ly?

Literally everything within 16,000ly is "within the range of the eye".

No satellite is more than a fraction of a light second away. That's 1/500,000,000,000th of that minimum possible "range of the eye". So the "range of the eye" would be utterly irrelevant, even if it were a real thing. Which it really isn't.
If we see in real time, the question arises: Are we seeing stars that are 16,000 ly away, or are we seeing the stars themselves.
Yes. We are seeing the stars themselves, which are 16,000ly away.
This would change what the naked eye is actually looking at.
No, it wouldn't.
It IS relevant because it would mean that the star we are gazing at is so bright and large that we could see it at that great distance.
Yes, obviously.
IOW, It would be within our field of view.
Wait, what?

Do you not know what "within our field of view" means; Or not know what "so bright and large that we could see it at that great distance" means; Or not know what "IOW" stands for?

If the star was too far away for its light to reach us, it would be out of our field of view,
OK, I am going with 'you don't know what a "field of view" is'.
but a telescope could magnify it where it could allow the star to be within our range of sight.
Do you know that "range" and "field" have specific meanings, that you are wantonly abusing in ways that make no sense whatsoever?

No, of course you don't.
Some stars are so distant that not even the strongest telescopes have been able to get a glimpse.
So fucking what?? What does this have to do with anything, other than a further demonstration that you are so clueless on this subject that you can't even form a coherent sentence about it, because you use words in ways directly contrary to their accepted meanings?

Are you really this poorly informed? Seriously?? Dunning and Kruger would have loved you.
 
I don't see where the difference between where the planet was and where it is now has to do with seeing the past.
:rofl:

Tell us you’re joking. Maybe this is the world’s longest-running piece of satirical performance art. You can’t be serious!

It is not the difference between where the planet “was” and “where it is now.” It is the difference between where the planet appears to be right now, and where it actually is.

If we saw in real time, then where Mars appears to be, and where it actually is, would be IDENTICAL.

But they are NOT identical. And NASA must factor this difference into their trajectory calculations.

When we look at Mars from the earth, we are seeing it as it was some 12.5 minutes ago. It has moved on since then!

Because where Mars APPEARS TO BE, and WHERE IT ACTUALLY is, are not the same, your writer is simply WRONG. Sorry!
Maybe she wants to claim that the past we see is really the present. But that would imply earth is at the center of the universe, the oldest seeming place of it, with everything around us being created slightly more recently?
You're now into woo woo land, Pood.

 
The only difference is that the satellite (i.e., the object) must be within the range of the eye when the light is reflected.
We can see stars that are 16,000 lightyears away with the naked eye.

What exactly do you think is "the range of the eye", and how can it possibly be less than 16,000ly?

Literally everything within 16,000ly is "within the range of the eye".

No satellite is more than a fraction of a light second away. That's 1/500,000,000,000th of that minimum possible "range of the eye". So the "range of the eye" would be utterly irrelevant, even if it were a real thing. Which it really isn't.
If we see in real time, the question arises: Are we seeing stars that are 16,000 ly away, or are we seeing the stars themselves.
Yes. We are seeing the stars themselves, which are 16,000ly away.
It's even stranger to think we would only see the star from lightyears in the past, which has been accepted as fact.
This would change what the naked eye is actually looking at.
No, it wouldn't.
It's either one or the other.
It IS relevant because it would mean that the star we are gazing at is so bright and large that we could see it at that great distance.
Yes, obviously.
You are disputing that we see the real object, only the light that emanates from it. This is not proven.
IOW, It would be within our field of view.
Wait, what?

Do you not know what "within our field of view" means; Or not know what "so bright and large that we could see it at that great distance" means; Or not know what "IOW" stands for?
It just means that we would see the object that could not be seen otherwise. Haven't you seen someone in the next room suddenly appear in your field of view? Not everything has to be impossible to grasp for it to be correct bilby.
If the star was too far away for its light to reach us, it would be out of our field of view,
OK, I am going with 'you don't know what a "field of view" is'.
Your version will never match mine, so it's useless. You believe we are seeing light traveling with the information of whatever it bounces off of, while I am saying we see the object directly.
but a telescope could magnify it where it could allow the star to be within our range of sight.
Do you know that "range" and "field" have specific meanings, that you are wantonly abusing in ways that make no sense whatsoever?
I'm not abusing anything because I have explained how I'm using these words. Definitions mean shit if they don't describe reality.
No, of course you don't.
Some stars are so distant that not even the strongest telescopes have been able to get a glimpse.
So fucking what?? What does this have to do with anything, other than a further demonstration that you are so clueless on this subject that you can't even form a coherent sentence about it, because you use words in ways directly contrary to their accepted meanings?

Are you really this poorly informed? Seriously?? Dunning and Kruger would have loved you.
This is as crazy as it gets. Call me names and tell me I know nothing if it gives you a feelig of satisfaction. I have said that he was not an astronomer. He was a philosopher and a deep thinker. So tell me, since you're so smart, how do we get conditioned? Please don't repeat what Pood said. This does not explain it.
 
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I don't see where the difference between where the planet was and where it is now has to do with seeing the past.
:rofl:

Tell us you’re joking. Maybe this is the world’s longest-running piece of satirical performance art. You can’t be serious!

It is not the difference between where the planet “was” and “where it is now.” It is the difference between where the planet appears to be right now, and where it actually is.

If we saw in real time, then where Mars appears to be, and where it actually is, would be IDENTICAL.

But they are NOT identical. And NASA must factor this difference into their trajectory calculations.

When we look at Mars from the earth, we are seeing it as it was some 12.5 minutes ago. It has moved on since then!

Because where Mars APPEARS TO BE, and WHERE IT ACTUALLY is, are not the same, your writer is simply WRONG. Sorry!
Why doesn't it show up as being of such importance when I google it? There are aberrations but not because of this difference in delayed light.


Why don’t you Google the following:

Apparent position of Mars and actual position

See how easy that was? :rolleyes:
 
I don't see where the difference between where the planet was and where it is now has to do with seeing the past.
:rofl:

Tell us you’re joking. Maybe this is the world’s longest-running piece of satirical performance art. You can’t be serious!

It is not the difference between where the planet “was” and “where it is now.” It is the difference between where the planet appears to be right now, and where it actually is.

If we saw in real time, then where Mars appears to be, and where it actually is, would be IDENTICAL.

But they are NOT identical. And NASA must factor this difference into their trajectory calculations.

When we look at Mars from the earth, we are seeing it as it was some 12.5 minutes ago. It has moved on since then!

Because where Mars APPEARS TO BE, and WHERE IT ACTUALLY is, are not the same, your writer is simply WRONG. Sorry!
Maybe she wants to claim that the past we see is really the present. But that would imply earth is at the center of the universe, the oldest seeming place of it, with everything around us being created slightly more recently?
You're now into woo woo land, Pood.


Peacegirl, who gives a shit what causes earth’s seasons??? Do you think people here don’t already know that? More to the point, what has this got to do with the fact that the apparent and actual positions of Mars in the sky are DIFFERENT, which means that real-time seeing is WRONG? :unsure:
 
I don't see where the difference between where the planet was and where it is now has to do with seeing the past.
:rofl:

Tell us you’re joking. Maybe this is the world’s longest-running piece of satirical performance art. You can’t be serious!

It is not the difference between where the planet “was” and “where it is now.” It is the difference between where the planet appears to be right now, and where it actually is.

If we saw in real time, then where Mars appears to be, and where it actually is, would be IDENTICAL.

But they are NOT identical. And NASA must factor this difference into their trajectory calculations.

When we look at Mars from the earth, we are seeing it as it was some 12.5 minutes ago. It has moved on since then!

Because where Mars APPEARS TO BE, and WHERE IT ACTUALLY is, are not the same, your writer is simply WRONG. Sorry!
Why doesn't it show up as being of such importance when I google it? There are aberrations but not because of this difference in delayed light.


Why don’t you Google the following:

Apparent position of Mars and actual position

See how easy that was? :rolleyes:
I don’t see where this has anything to do with delayed light.
 

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I don't see where the difference between where the planet was and where it is now has to do with seeing the past.
:rofl:

Tell us you’re joking. Maybe this is the world’s longest-running piece of satirical performance art. You can’t be serious!

It is not the difference between where the planet “was” and “where it is now.” It is the difference between where the planet appears to be right now, and where it actually is.

If we saw in real time, then where Mars appears to be, and where it actually is, would be IDENTICAL.

But they are NOT identical. And NASA must factor this difference into their trajectory calculations.

When we look at Mars from the earth, we are seeing it as it was some 12.5 minutes ago. It has moved on since then!

Because where Mars APPEARS TO BE, and WHERE IT ACTUALLY is, are not the same, your writer is simply WRONG. Sorry!
Why doesn't it show up as being of such importance when I google it? There are aberrations but not because of this difference in delayed light.


Relativity. Timespace.
 
I don't see where the difference between where the planet was and where it is now has to do with seeing the past.
:rofl:

Tell us you’re joking. Maybe this is the world’s longest-running piece of satirical performance art. You can’t be serious!

It is not the difference between where the planet “was” and “where it is now.” It is the difference between where the planet appears to be right now, and where it actually is.

If we saw in real time, then where Mars appears to be, and where it actually is, would be IDENTICAL.

But they are NOT identical. And NASA must factor this difference into their trajectory calculations.

When we look at Mars from the earth, we are seeing it as it was some 12.5 minutes ago. It has moved on since then!

Because where Mars APPEARS TO BE, and WHERE IT ACTUALLY is, are not the same, your writer is simply WRONG. Sorry!
Maybe she wants to claim that the past we see is really the present. But that would imply earth is at the center of the universe, the oldest seeming place of it, with everything around us being created slightly more recently?
You're now into woo woo land, Pood.


Peacegirl, who gives a shit what causes earth’s seasons??? Do you think people here don’t already know that? More to the point, what has this got to do with the fact that the apparent and actual positions of Mars in the sky are DIFFERENT, which means that real-time seeing is WRONG? :unsure:
I don't see where the difference between where the planet was and where it is now has to do with seeing the past.
:rofl:

Tell us you’re joking. Maybe this is the world’s longest-running piece of satirical performance art. You can’t be serious!

It is not the difference between where the planet “was” and “where it is now.” It is the difference between where the planet appears to be right now, and where it actually is.

If we saw in real time, then where Mars appears to be, and where it actually is, would be IDENTICAL.

But they are NOT identical. And NASA must factor this difference into their trajectory calculations.

When we look at Mars from the earth, we are seeing it as it was some 12.5 minutes ago. It has moved on since then!

Because where Mars APPEARS TO BE, and WHERE IT ACTUALLY is, are not the same, your writer is simply WRONG. Sorry!
Maybe she wants to claim that the past we see is really the present. But that would imply earth is at the center of the universe, the oldest seeming place of it, with everything around us being created slightly more recently?
You're now into woo woo land, Pood.


Peacegirl, who gives a shit what causes earth’s seasons??? Do you think people here don’t already know that? More to the point, what has this got to do with the fact that the apparent and actual positions of Mars in the sky are DIFFERENT, which means that real-time seeing is WRONG? :unsure:
 

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I don't see where the difference between where the planet was and where it is now has to do with seeing the past.
:rofl:

Tell us you’re joking. Maybe this is the world’s longest-running piece of satirical performance art. You can’t be serious!

It is not the difference between where the planet “was” and “where it is now.” It is the difference between where the planet appears to be right now, and where it actually is.

If we saw in real time, then where Mars appears to be, and where it actually is, would be IDENTICAL.

But they are NOT identical. And NASA must factor this difference into their trajectory calculations.

When we look at Mars from the earth, we are seeing it as it was some 12.5 minutes ago. It has moved on since then!

Because where Mars APPEARS TO BE, and WHERE IT ACTUALLY is, are not the same, your writer is simply WRONG. Sorry!
Why doesn't it show up as being of such importance when I google it? There are aberrations but not because of this difference in delayed light.


Relativity. Timespace.
The attachment that I added in the previous post is more relevant.
 
I don't see where the difference between where the planet was and where it is now has to do with seeing the past.
:rofl:

Tell us you’re joking. Maybe this is the world’s longest-running piece of satirical performance art. You can’t be serious!

It is not the difference between where the planet “was” and “where it is now.” It is the difference between where the planet appears to be right now, and where it actually is.

If we saw in real time, then where Mars appears to be, and where it actually is, would be IDENTICAL.

But they are NOT identical. And NASA must factor this difference into their trajectory calculations.

When we look at Mars from the earth, we are seeing it as it was some 12.5 minutes ago. It has moved on since then!

Because where Mars APPEARS TO BE, and WHERE IT ACTUALLY is, are not the same, your writer is simply WRONG. Sorry!
Why doesn't it show up as being of such importance when I google it? There are aberrations but not because of this difference in delayed light.


Relativity. Timespace.
The attachment that I added in the previous post is more relevant.

It doesn’t support your contention. There are no physical means by which so called light at the eye/sight can be instantaneous. It's impossible.
 
I don't see where the difference between where the planet was and where it is now has to do with seeing the past.
:rofl:

Tell us you’re joking. Maybe this is the world’s longest-running piece of satirical performance art. You can’t be serious!

It is not the difference between where the planet “was” and “where it is now.” It is the difference between where the planet appears to be right now, and where it actually is.

If we saw in real time, then where Mars appears to be, and where it actually is, would be IDENTICAL.

But they are NOT identical. And NASA must factor this difference into their trajectory calculations.

When we look at Mars from the earth, we are seeing it as it was some 12.5 minutes ago. It has moved on since then!

Because where Mars APPEARS TO BE, and WHERE IT ACTUALLY is, are not the same, your writer is simply WRONG. Sorry!
Why doesn't it show up as being of such importance when I google it? There are aberrations but not because of this difference in delayed light.


Relativity. Timespace.
The attachment that I added in the previous post is more relevant.

It doesn’t support your contention. There are no physical means by which so called light at the eye/sight can be instantaneous. It's impossible.
You keep saying that DBT, but you don't understand why this works. I am not debating something that is impossible, but it feels that way when you think in terms of travel time. Don't your thoughts go something like this? How can an image be seen without light traveling to our eyes? But if there is no travel time or distance involved (sort of like a mirror image on the retina), seeing in real time becomes possible. I hope you consider the author's claim before rejecting it too quickly because he knew what he was talking about.
 
I don't see where the difference between where the planet was and where it is now has to do with seeing the past.
:rofl:

Tell us you’re joking. Maybe this is the world’s longest-running piece of satirical performance art. You can’t be serious!

It is not the difference between where the planet “was” and “where it is now.” It is the difference between where the planet appears to be right now, and where it actually is.

If we saw in real time, then where Mars appears to be, and where it actually is, would be IDENTICAL.

But they are NOT identical. And NASA must factor this difference into their trajectory calculations.

When we look at Mars from the earth, we are seeing it as it was some 12.5 minutes ago. It has moved on since then!

Because where Mars APPEARS TO BE, and WHERE IT ACTUALLY is, are not the same, your writer is simply WRONG. Sorry!
Why doesn't it show up as being of such importance when I google it? There are aberrations but not because of this difference in delayed light.


Relativity. Timespace.
The attachment that I added in the previous post is more relevant.

It doesn’t support your contention. There are no physical means by which so called light at the eye/sight can be instantaneous. It's impossible.
You keep saying that DBT, but you don't understand why this works. I am not debating something that is impossible, but it feels that way when you think in terms of travel time. Don't your thoughts go something like this? How can an image be seen without light traveling to our eyes? But if there is no travel time or distance involved (sort of like a mirror image on the retina), seeing in real time becomes possible. I hope you consider the author's claim before rejecting it too quickly because he knew what he was talking about.


What I and others have pointed out is supported by physics and biology, how the eye works, its structure and function. That light is radiated or reflected from objects, and that it has a given speed. Which means that light has a travel time between the moment it was emitted or reflected and the moment it is detected and absorbed by the eye.

The instant vision contention has no such means, and cannot be explained. Which means that it is an assertion, not a viable model of vision.
 
I don't see where the difference between where the planet was and where it is now has to do with seeing the past.
:rofl:

Tell us you’re joking. Maybe this is the world’s longest-running piece of satirical performance art. You can’t be serious!

It is not the difference between where the planet “was” and “where it is now.” It is the difference between where the planet appears to be right now, and where it actually is.

If we saw in real time, then where Mars appears to be, and where it actually is, would be IDENTICAL.

But they are NOT identical. And NASA must factor this difference into their trajectory calculations.

When we look at Mars from the earth, we are seeing it as it was some 12.5 minutes ago. It has moved on since then!

Because where Mars APPEARS TO BE, and WHERE IT ACTUALLY is, are not the same, your writer is simply WRONG. Sorry!
Why doesn't it show up as being of such importance when I google it? There are aberrations but not because of this difference in delayed light.


Relativity. Timespace.
The attachment that I added in the previous post is more relevant.

It doesn’t support your contention. There are no physical means by which so called light at the eye/sight can be instantaneous. It's impossible.
You keep saying that DBT, but you don't understand why this works. I am not debating something that is impossible, but it feels that way when you think in terms of travel time. Don't your thoughts go something like this? How can an image be seen without light traveling to our eyes? But if there is no travel time or distance involved (sort of like a mirror image on the retina), seeing in real time becomes possible. I hope you consider the author's claim before rejecting it too quickly because he knew what he was talking about.


What I and others have pointed out is supported by physics and biology, how the eye works, its structure and function.
Biology doesn't have an airtight explanation when it comes to the function of the eyes—i.e., images being formed from signals within the brain.
That light is radiated or reflected from objects, and that it has a given speed. Which means that light has a travel time between the moment it was emitted or reflected and the moment it is detected and absorbed by the eye.
There is no denying that light hits the retina, and the optic nerve is the connection between the retina and the brain, but it does not give us a complete or accurate picture of how we see.
The instant vision contention has no such means, and cannot be explained.
Not true. He demonstrated what was going on with the eyes. Just because he didn't show the exact mechanism as to how this occurs doesn't mean he was wrong. Look at the present model. They explained how the eyes work down to every impulse, but if Lessans was right, that would make them wrong in how the eyes function, so what good is a model that is incorrect?
Which means that it is an assertion, not a viable model of vision.
I explained it. I also explained his reasoning as to how we become conditioned, which can only take place when words are projected onto real substance. The words like beautiful and ugly do not correspond with real aspects of the known universe, such as cars, houses, chairs, people, traffic lights, televisions, clothes, etc., which is why they have no corresponding reality, yet this conditioning (which no other sense organ can do) makes it appear as if they do. It's okay if you call this claim an assertion as long as the meaning of this word states that it is used to defend arguments; otherwise, using it to mean there is no evidence whatsoever would be a false accusation.

Assertion​

First published Mon Jan 22, 2007; substantive revision Wed Nov 17, 2021
Asserting is the act of claiming that something is the case—for instance, that oranges are citruses, or that there is a traffic congestion on Brooklyn Bridge (at some time). We make assertions to share information, coordinate our actions, defend arguments, and communicate our beliefs and desires. Because of its central role in communication, assertion has been investigated in several disciplines. Linguists, philosophers of language, and logicians rely heavily on the notion of assertion in theorizing about meaning, truth and inference.
 
I don't see where the difference between where the planet was and where it is now has to do with seeing the past.
:rofl:

Tell us you’re joking. Maybe this is the world’s longest-running piece of satirical performance art. You can’t be serious!

It is not the difference between where the planet “was” and “where it is now.” It is the difference between where the planet appears to be right now, and where it actually is.

If we saw in real time, then where Mars appears to be, and where it actually is, would be IDENTICAL.

But they are NOT identical. And NASA must factor this difference into their trajectory calculations.

When we look at Mars from the earth, we are seeing it as it was some 12.5 minutes ago. It has moved on since then!

Because where Mars APPEARS TO BE, and WHERE IT ACTUALLY is, are not the same, your writer is simply WRONG. Sorry!
Why doesn't it show up as being of such importance when I google it? There are aberrations but not because of this difference in delayed light.


Relativity. Timespace.
The attachment that I added in the previous post is more relevant.

It doesn’t support your contention. There are no physical means by which so called light at the eye/sight can be instantaneous. It's impossible.
You keep saying that DBT, but you don't understand why this works. I am not debating something that is impossible, but it feels that way when you think in terms of travel time. Don't your thoughts go something like this? How can an image be seen without light traveling to our eyes? But if there is no travel time or distance involved (sort of like a mirror image on the retina), seeing in real time becomes possible. I hope you consider the author's claim before rejecting it too quickly because he knew what he was talking about.

But you haven't explained the means or mechanisms of instant vision, seeing stars, not how they were when the light we see was radiated, but instantly, how they look in the present moment.

You haven’t explained the means by which such a thing is possible.

There is nothing in science, physics, astrophysics or biology that would permit instant vision/light at the eye.


What I and others have pointed out is supported by physics and biology, how the eye works, its structure and function.
Biology doesn't have an airtight explanation when it comes to the function of the eyes—i.e., images being formed from signals within the brain.
That light is radiated or reflected from objects, and that it has a given speed. Which means that light has a travel time between the moment it was emitted or reflected and the moment it is detected and absorbed by the eye.
There is no denying that light hits the retina, and the optic nerve is the connection between the retina and the brain, but it does not give us a complete or accurate picture of how we see.
The instant vision contention has no such means, and cannot be explained.
Not true. He demonstrated what was going on with the eyes. Just because he didn't show the exact mechanism as to how this occurs doesn't mean he was wrong. Look at the present model. They explained how the eyes work down to every impulse, but if Lessans was right, that would make them wrong in how the eyes function, so what good is a model that is incorrect?
Which means that it is an assertion, not a viable model of vision.
I explained it. I also explained his reasoning as to how we become conditioned, which can only take place when words are projected onto real substance. The words like beautiful and ugly do not correspond with real aspects of the known universe, such as cars, houses, chairs, people, traffic lights, televisions, clothes, etc., which is why they have no corresponding reality, yet this conditioning (which no other sense organ can do) makes it appear as if they do. It's okay if you call this claim an assertion as long as the meaning of this word states that it is used to defend arguments; otherwise, using it to mean there is no evidence whatsoever would be a false accusation.

Assertion​

First published Mon Jan 22, 2007; substantive revision Wed Nov 17, 2021
Asserting is the act of claiming that something is the case—for instance, that oranges are citruses, or that there is a traffic congestion on Brooklyn Bridge (at some time). We make assertions to share information, coordinate our actions, defend arguments, and communicate our beliefs and desires. Because of its central role in communication, assertion has been investigated in several disciplines. Linguists, philosophers of language, and logicians rely heavily on the notion of assertion in theorizing about meaning, truth and inference.
 
I don't see where the difference between where the planet was and where it is now has to do with seeing the past.
:rofl:

Tell us you’re joking. Maybe this is the world’s longest-running piece of satirical performance art. You can’t be serious!

It is not the difference between where the planet “was” and “where it is now.” It is the difference between where the planet appears to be right now, and where it actually is.

If we saw in real time, then where Mars appears to be, and where it actually is, would be IDENTICAL.

But they are NOT identical. And NASA must factor this difference into their trajectory calculations.

When we look at Mars from the earth, we are seeing it as it was some 12.5 minutes ago. It has moved on since then!

Because where Mars APPEARS TO BE, and WHERE IT ACTUALLY is, are not the same, your writer is simply WRONG. Sorry!
Why doesn't it show up as being of such importance when I google it? There are aberrations but not because of this difference in delayed light.


Relativity. Timespace.
The attachment that I added in the previous post is more relevant.

It doesn’t support your contention. There are no physical means by which so called light at the eye/sight can be instantaneous. It's impossible.
You keep saying that DBT, but you don't understand why this works. I am not debating something that is impossible, but it feels that way when you think in terms of travel time. Don't your thoughts go something like this? How can an image be seen without light traveling to our eyes? But if there is no travel time or distance involved (sort of like a mirror image on the retina), seeing in real time becomes possible. I hope you consider the author's claim before rejecting it too quickly because he knew what he was talking about.


What I and others have pointed out is supported by physics and biology, how the eye works, its structure and function.
Biology doesn't have an airtight explanation when it comes to the function of the eyes—i.e., images being formed from signals within the brain.

It is airtight.
That light is radiated or reflected from objects, and that it has a given speed. Which means that light has a travel time between the moment it was emitted or reflected and the moment it is detected and absorbed by the eye.
There is no denying that light hits the retina, and the optic nerve is the connection between the retina and the brain, but it does not give us a complete or accurate picture of how we see.

Why in hell doesn’t it? What’s wrong with it? Oh, I know — your writer doesn’t like it, so it must be wrong. :rolleyes:
The instant vision contention has no such means, and cannot be explained.
Not true. He demonstrated what was going on with the eyes.

He demonstrated nothing.
Just because he didn't show the exact mechanism as to how this occurs doesn't mean he was wrong.

Sure it does.
Look at the present model. They explained how the eyes work down to every impulse, but if Lessans was right, that would make them wrong in how the eyes function, so what good is a model that is incorrect?

:rofl:

And if wishes were horses, beggars would ride.
Which means that it is an assertion, not a viable model of vision.
I explained it.

You and the writer explained nothing.
 
Biology doesn't have an airtight explanation when it comes to the function of the eyes—i.e., images being formed from signals within the brain.
Because the explanation ceases to be covered under the discipline of biology as soon as the biology forms a switch.

Then it becomes a discussion in the discipline of computer science.
 
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