Right-Wing Violence Is MUCH More Common Than Left-Wing Violence

[phands]

I'm not surprised by this at all....

Those types of abstractions fail to capture the reality of political terror in America. Though you can point to some scattered examples of left-wing violence (primarily the shooting mentioned above and some brawling by antifascist activists at rallies), right-wing violence has long been more pernicious and widespread. Abortion clinics and doctors have been regular targets for terrorists for decades. Armed right-wing militias are frighteningly common across the country. White supremacists committed more murders than any other extremist faction last year, according to the Anti-Defamation League.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...-violence-is-not-the-same-thing-as-incivility

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

I'm not surprised by this at all....

Those types of abstractions fail to capture the reality of political terror in America. Though you can point to some scattered examples of left-wing violence (primarily the shooting mentioned above and some brawling by antifascist activists at rallies), right-wing violence has long been more pernicious and widespread. Abortion clinics and doctors have been regular targets for terrorists for decades. Armed right-wing militias are frighteningly common across the country. White supremacists committed more murders than any other extremist faction last year, according to the Anti-Defamation League.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...-violence-is-not-the-same-thing-as-incivility

They also feed directly into one another.

 

[GenesisNemesis]

I'm not surprised by this at all....

Those types of abstractions fail to capture the reality of political terror in America. Though you can point to some scattered examples of left-wing violence (primarily the shooting mentioned above and some brawling by antifascist activists at rallies), right-wing violence has long been more pernicious and widespread. Abortion clinics and doctors have been regular targets for terrorists for decades. Armed right-wing militias are frighteningly common across the country. White supremacists committed more murders than any other extremist faction last year, according to the Anti-Defamation League.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...-violence-is-not-the-same-thing-as-incivility

They also feed directly into one another.

Victim blaming. Nice.

 

[Underseer]

I'm not surprised by this at all....

Those types of abstractions fail to capture the reality of political terror in America. Though you can point to some scattered examples of left-wing violence (primarily the shooting mentioned above and some brawling by antifascist activists at rallies), right-wing violence has long been more pernicious and widespread. Abortion clinics and doctors have been regular targets for terrorists for decades. Armed right-wing militias are frighteningly common across the country. White supremacists committed more murders than any other extremist faction last year, according to the Anti-Defamation League.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...-violence-is-not-the-same-thing-as-incivility

Sure, conservatives are responsible for things like the Oaklahoma City bombing and the recent synagogue shooting, but need I remind you that we have video evidence of anti-fascist protesters breaking windows?

Which do you think is worse? Mass murder or breaking windows?

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

They also feed directly into one another.

Victim blaming. Nice.

Uh ok. Saying left and right wing violence play into each other is somehow victim blaming in your world. Got it.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I'm not surprised by this at all....

Those types of abstractions fail to capture the reality of political terror in America. Though you can point to some scattered examples of left-wing violence (primarily the shooting mentioned above and some brawling by antifascist activists at rallies), right-wing violence has long been more pernicious and widespread. Abortion clinics and doctors have been regular targets for terrorists for decades. Armed right-wing militias are frighteningly common across the country. White supremacists committed more murders than any other extremist faction last year, according to the Anti-Defamation League.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...-violence-is-not-the-same-thing-as-incivility

They also feed directly into one another.

Yeah, that Holocaust survivor was really asking for it.

Oh wait, you didn't mean "those victims".

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They also feed directly into one another.

Victim blaming. Nice.

Uh ok. Saying left and right wing violence play into each other is somehow victim blaming in your world. Got it.

The KKK was around a lot sooner than Antifa ever was... or the Black Panthers. About the only thing that predates the KKK was Nat Turner's riot.

 

[RavenSky]

They also feed directly into one another.

Victim blaming. Nice.

Uh ok. Saying left and right wing violence play into each other is somehow victim blaming in your world. Got it.

More like false equivalency.

If, as you say, one feeds into the other, we should see approximately equal amounts of violence on both ends of the spectrum. As the OP article points out, we don't.

The right-wing "conservatives" are far more violent in the USA

 

[GenesisNemesis]

They also feed directly into one another.

Victim blaming. Nice.

Uh ok. Saying left and right wing violence play into each other is somehow victim blaming in your world. Got it.

You're saying that left wingers are somehow at the very least partly responsible for right wing violence. There's no other way to interpret what you said.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Uh ok. Saying left and right wing violence play into each other is somehow victim blaming in your world. Got it.

You're saying that left wingers are somehow at the very least partly responsible for right wing violence. There's no other way to interpret what you said.

And that there is some equivalency between the two when there clearly isn’t (as the OP shows)

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Uh ok. Saying left and right wing violence play into each other is somehow victim blaming in your world. Got it.

You're saying that left wingers are somehow at the very least partly responsible for right wing violence. There's no other way to interpret what you said.

Is this a good time to bring up that the attack on a Jewish Synagogue wasn't a political attack and mention it was a hate crime? That is, unless Jolly Penguin is saying killing the Jewish is a right-wing thing.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

If, as you say, one feeds into the other, we should see approximately equal amounts of violence on both ends of the spectrum.

Why? I don't agree at all.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

Uh ok. Saying left and right wing violence play into each other is somehow victim blaming in your world. Got it.

You're saying that left wingers are somehow at the very least partly responsible for right wing violence. There's no other way to interpret what you said.

Maybe not in your mind, but you have to stand on your head to get your mind in that state. I meant left wing violence (the other person trying to twist it got at least that far). Or are you calling violent left wingers who feed into right wing violence victims?

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Uh ok. Saying left and right wing violence play into each other is somehow victim blaming in your world. Got it.

You're saying that left wingers are somehow at the very least partly responsible for right wing violence. There's no other way to interpret what you said.

Is this a good time to bring up that the attack on a Jewish Synagogue wasn't a political attack and mention it was a hate crime? That is, unless Jolly Penguin is saying killing the Jewish is a right-wing thing.

I'm a little surprised that you haven't stretched this to declaring that I endorsed the attack or something.

 

[Toni]

Guys, clearly if the left weren't such a group of big old doody heads, the right wouldn't be forced to shoot up churches or synagogues or nightclubs with gay people or federal buildings with day care centers or anything else and could just concentrate on burning crosses in front of the homes of any brown or black or slanty eyed people or kikes who tried to vote. Maybe Catholics, too. Why do those people have homes anyway?

 

[RavenSky]

If, as you say, one feeds into the other, we should see approximately equal amounts of violence on both ends of the spectrum.

Why? I don't agree at all.

Of course you don't.

But that's what your claim means. And it is clearly false.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

If, as you say, one feeds into the other, we should see approximately equal amounts of violence on both ends of the spectrum.

Why? I don't agree at all.

Of course you don't.

But that's what your claim means. And it is clearly false.

No it does not mean that. You can feed into something without equaling it. I am amazed that I have to write that.

 

[laughing dog]

No it does not mean that. You can feed into something without equaling it. I am amazed that I have to write that.

Until you explain how "feeding into each other" addresses the observed imbalance in the frequency between right wing violence and left wing violence, it appears your observation serves no relevant purpose in the discussion of the actual OP topic.

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

I do remember when militias started to be a big concern, that numerous people like game wardens, rural police forces and others were regularly threatened and harassed by militias. Complaints to various right winged state governments and the GOP controlled Congress fell on deaf ears and nobody seemed to care much.

But now, every GOP clown seems to be up in arms at the prospect of a thousand Guatemalan fathers and mothers carrying their children towards the US.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Of course you don't.

But that's what your claim means. And it is clearly false.

No it does not mean that. You can feed into something without equaling it. I am amazed that I have to write that.

This is what happens, though, when you juxtaposition things with each other. If the relation to each other is very dissimilar, why even bring it up?

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

Of course you don't.

But that's what your claim means. And it is clearly false.

No it does not mean that. You can feed into something without equaling it. I am amazed that I have to write that.

This is what happens, though, when you juxtaposition things with each other. If the relation to each other is very dissimilar, why even bring it up?

Because the feed into each other, which is what I wrote. If you read in more than what I write, that's on you and not me.

Left wing violence DOES feed into right wing violence. It doesn't have to be as frequent or as severe to do so. The latter is a whole other argument you could have with somebody on the right, but it isn't stated or implied by what I wrote.

 

[laughing dog]

This is what happens, though, when you juxtaposition things with each other. If the relation to each other is very dissimilar, why even bring it up?

Because the feed into each other, which is what I wrote. If you read in more than what I write, that's on you and not me.

Left wing violence DOES feed into right wing violence. It doesn't have to be as frequent or as severe to do so. The latter is a whole other argument you could have with somebody on the right, but it isn't stated or implied by what I wrote.

Assuming left wing violence does feed into right wing violence, what does that have to do with the OP topic that right wing violence is more frequent than left wing violence? Or are you simply offering random thoughts?