So Bibi Wants To Begin The "Final Solution."

[lpetrich]

As to the Roman Empire, what is its present-day successor state? Vatican City?

 

[angelo]

As this article shows, it's not Bibi who wants to start a final solution...........................................https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/05/...s-answered-in-real-time-with-a-bombing-attack

That article says Netanyahu's response to a cyberattack was to have the IDF level a building without warning, killing everyone inside. You think it indicates he wouldn't slaughter Palestinians wholesale for racist, bigoted, and politically motivated reasons?

I think the thread title is intentional hyperbole. Netanyahu hasn't yet reached the point of implementing the Final Solution. He's still utilizing the Next-to-final Solution, the one where the undesired population is herded into ghettos and designated containment areas, surrounded by barriers and concertina wire and patrolled by soldiers with orders to kill anyone who tries to get out without permission. But if the Next-to-final Solution doesn't pan out, what do you think Netanyahu and militant Zionists like him will do? If past performance is indicative of future results, violating a few UN Resolutions will be the least of it.

The IDF ALWAYS uses what's known as knock, knock bombs prior to actually using real bombs to blow to smithereens Hamas murdering terrorists. That building you're referring to housed the whole stinking lot of Hamas terrorist cyber attackers. Hopefully it's destroyed, for a while at least anyway, the means of terrorist cyber attacks.

 

[angelo]

As to the Roman Empire, what is its present-day successor state? Vatican City?

That's my point. Without DNA analysis it would be very difficult to trace most people's origins, unlike many Jews who can trace their origins right back to the second temple.

 

[Arctish]

As to the Roman Empire, what is its present-day successor state? Vatican City?

That's my point. Without DNA analysis it would be very difficult to trace most people's origins, unlike many Jews who can trace their origins right back to the second temple.

You keep pointing out that the Jewish people and the Jewish faith are originally from, and have existed in, that part of the Middle East for thousands of years. No one disputes it.

What is in dispute is whether people who converted to other faiths, or whose ancestors did, or whose ancestors never worshipped Jehovah at any time, can claim the area around Jerusalem as their ancestral homeland. There is also a dispute over whether converts to the Jewish faith can use their religious affiliation to lay claim to an ancestral homeland their ancestors weren't from.

Can you make a rational argument why Jews have an exclusive claim to that part of the region? If not, then why are you still disputing the right of the indigenous people of the area around Jerusalem, Jews and Christians and Muslims and Druze alike, to live there?

 

[Ford]

Can you make a rational argument why Jews have an exclusive claim to that part of the region?

Hang on a second...are you asking that someone provides evidence that the Hebrews were not historically a nomadic people and were instead the indigenous inhabitants of what is now known as the modern state of Israel?

I mean, "everyone knows" that they lived in the land from day one (six thousand years ago) and that the area was completely uninhabited for most of history apart from the Jewish people...right?

At the end of the day, the fact is that God gave the Jewish people this otherwise uninhabited yet also fantastically inhabitable region to do with as they wish. Why do you even question this?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

As this article shows, it's not Bibi who wants to start a final solution...........................................https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/05/...s-answered-in-real-time-with-a-bombing-attack

That article says Netanyahu's response to a cyberattack was to have the IDF level a building without warning, killing everyone inside. You think it indicates he wouldn't slaughter Palestinians wholesale for racist, bigoted, and politically motivated reasons?

I think the thread title is intentional hyperbole. Netanyahu hasn't yet reached the point of implementing the Final Solution. He's still utilizing the Next-to-final Solution, the one where the undesired population is herded into ghettos and designated containment areas, surrounded by barriers and concertina wire and patrolled by soldiers with orders to kill anyone who tries to get out without permission. But if the Next-to-final Solution doesn't pan out, what do you think Netanyahu and militant Zionists like him will do? If past performance is indicative of future results, violating a few UN Resolutions will be the least of it.

Israel leveled the building that was being used to attack Israel. It's clearly a military target, nothing wrong in that.

 

[Ford]

As this article shows, it's not Bibi who wants to start a final solution...........................................https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/05/...s-answered-in-real-time-with-a-bombing-attack

That article says Netanyahu's response to a cyberattack was to have the IDF level a building without warning, killing everyone inside. You think it indicates he wouldn't slaughter Palestinians wholesale for racist, bigoted, and politically motivated reasons?

I think the thread title is intentional hyperbole. Netanyahu hasn't yet reached the point of implementing the Final Solution. He's still utilizing the Next-to-final Solution, the one where the undesired population is herded into ghettos and designated containment areas, surrounded by barriers and concertina wire and patrolled by soldiers with orders to kill anyone who tries to get out without permission. But if the Next-to-final Solution doesn't pan out, what do you think Netanyahu and militant Zionists like him will do? If past performance is indicative of future results, violating a few UN Resolutions will be the least of it.

Israel leveled the building that was being used to attack Israel. It's clearly a military target, nothing wrong in that.

And of course, Israel is sacrosanct. No one should attack Israel because they can do nothing wrong.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

As this article shows, it's not Bibi who wants to start a final solution...........................................https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/05/...s-answered-in-real-time-with-a-bombing-attack

That article says Netanyahu's response to a cyberattack was to have the IDF level a building without warning, killing everyone inside. You think it indicates he wouldn't slaughter Palestinians wholesale for racist, bigoted, and politically motivated reasons?

I think the thread title is intentional hyperbole. Netanyahu hasn't yet reached the point of implementing the Final Solution. He's still utilizing the Next-to-final Solution, the one where the undesired population is herded into ghettos and designated containment areas, surrounded by barriers and concertina wire and patrolled by soldiers with orders to kill anyone who tries to get out without permission. But if the Next-to-final Solution doesn't pan out, what do you think Netanyahu and militant Zionists like him will do? If past performance is indicative of future results, violating a few UN Resolutions will be the least of it.

The IDF ALWAYS uses what's known as knock, knock bombs prior to actually using real bombs to blow to smithereens Hamas murdering terrorists. That building you're referring to housed the whole stinking lot of Hamas terrorist cyber attackers. Hopefully it's destroyed, for a while at least anyway, the means of terrorist cyber attacks.

No. The IDF uses the knock-knock bombs when a short warning doesn't allow removal of their objective from the target. (This generally means weapons caches.) However, when their target can be quickly removed there is no warning, just the boom. (Commanders, or in this case a group of hackers.)

 

[Ford]

The IDF ALWAYS uses what's known as knock, knock bombs prior to actually using real bombs to blow to smithereens Hamas murdering terrorists. That building you're referring to housed the whole stinking lot of Hamas terrorist cyber attackers. Hopefully it's destroyed, for a while at least anyway, the means of terrorist cyber attacks.

No. The IDF uses the knock-knock bombs when a short warning doesn't allow removal of their objective from the target. (This generally means weapons caches.) However, when their target can be quickly removed there is no warning, just the boom. (Commanders, or in this case a group of hackers.)

And that's all okay because Palestinians are sub-humans and killing them is okay. I mean, they're in the way of Greater Israel, so they have to die.

 

[angelo]

As to the Roman Empire, what is its present-day successor state? Vatican City?

That's my point. Without DNA analysis it would be very difficult to trace most people's origins, unlike many Jews who can trace their origins right back to the second temple.

You keep pointing out that the Jewish people and the Jewish faith are originally from, and have existed in, that part of the Middle East for thousands of years. No one disputes it.

What is in dispute is whether people who converted to other faiths, or whose ancestors did, or whose ancestors never worshipped Jehovah at any time, can claim the area around Jerusalem as their ancestral homeland. There is also a dispute over whether converts to the Jewish faith can use their religious affiliation to lay claim to an ancestral homeland their ancestors weren't from.

Can you make a rational argument why Jews have an exclusive claim to that part of the region? If not, then why are you still disputing the right of the indigenous people of the area around Jerusalem, Jews and Christians and Muslims and Druze alike, to live there?

Xtians, Druze and Jews co-exist splendidly. Muslims, not so much as they're from a supremacist ideology!

 

[angelo]

The IDF ALWAYS uses what's known as knock, knock bombs prior to actually using real bombs to blow to smithereens Hamas murdering terrorists. That building you're referring to housed the whole stinking lot of Hamas terrorist cyber attackers. Hopefully it's destroyed, for a while at least anyway, the means of terrorist cyber attacks.

No. The IDF uses the knock-knock bombs when a short warning doesn't allow removal of their objective from the target. (This generally means weapons caches.) However, when their target can be quickly removed there is no warning, just the boom. (Commanders, or in this case a group of hackers.)

Terrorist targets that are a threat to Israel such as weapon cache, or targeted Hamas commanders are legitimate targets. The problem of civilian casualties arises because these barbarians care little about their civilians, including children as they shield behind them.

 

[Arctish]

You keep pointing out that the Jewish people and the Jewish faith are originally from, and have existed in, that part of the Middle East for thousands of years. No one disputes it.

What is in dispute is whether people who converted to other faiths, or whose ancestors did, or whose ancestors never worshipped Jehovah at any time, can claim the area around Jerusalem as their ancestral homeland. There is also a dispute over whether converts to the Jewish faith can use their religious affiliation to lay claim to an ancestral homeland their ancestors weren't from.

Can you make a rational argument why Jews have an exclusive claim to that part of the region? If not, then why are you still disputing the right of the indigenous people of the area around Jerusalem, Jews and Christians and Muslims and Druze alike, to live there?

Xtians, Druze and Jews co-exist splendidly. Muslims, not so much as they're from a supremacist ideology!

So you're disputing the right of the indigenous people of Palestine to live there based on your beliefs about their religious beliefs and that of their parents/ancestors.

 

[angelo]

You keep pointing out that the Jewish people and the Jewish faith are originally from, and have existed in, that part of the Middle East for thousands of years. No one disputes it.

What is in dispute is whether people who converted to other faiths, or whose ancestors did, or whose ancestors never worshipped Jehovah at any time, can claim the area around Jerusalem as their ancestral homeland. There is also a dispute over whether converts to the Jewish faith can use their religious affiliation to lay claim to an ancestral homeland their ancestors weren't from.

Can you make a rational argument why Jews have an exclusive claim to that part of the region? If not, then why are you still disputing the right of the indigenous people of the area around Jerusalem, Jews and Christians and Muslims and Druze alike, to live there?

Xtians, Druze and Jews co-exist splendidly. Muslims, not so much as they're from a supremacist ideology!

So you're disputing the right of the indigenous people of Palestine to live there based on your beliefs about their religious beliefs and that of their parents/ancestors.

I said that most other religions get on with Jews splendidly. All could easily live together as is proven by multi religions living in Israel. All except the followers of the bloodthirsty terrorist "Profit" Muhammad that is

 

[Arctish]

So you're disputing the right of the indigenous people of Palestine to live there based on your beliefs about their religious beliefs and that of their parents/ancestors.

I said that most other religions get on with Jews splendidly. All could easily live together as is proven by multi religions living in Israel. All except the followers of the bloodthirsty terrorist "Profit" Muhammad that is

Then you are mistaken.

Jews, Christians, Muslims, Druze, and other religious groups lived peacefully side by side in Palestine for centuries under the Ottoman Empire. Heck, they live peacefully side by side in Israel right now, as you and Loren are so fond of pointing out.

And before you start going on about the few who attack Jews, I'll remind you there are a few Jews who attack non-Jews, like those murderous settlers who burned a baby to death in his crib. They are not the norm, no matter how much attention you give them, or how completely you ignore the vast majority of folks who just want to get on with their boring, everyday lives.

 

[angelo]

You're looking at the benevolent muslims with islamic coloured glasses! Who's armies was it that attacked the newly established tiny state of Israel in 1948?

 

[Arctish]

You're looking at the benevolent muslims with islamic coloured glasses! Who's armies was it that attacked the newly established tiny state of Israel in 1948?

The newly established tiny state of Israel was built on ethnic cleansing and human rights violations. Ffs, haven't you ever read about the work of the Jewish Agency for Palestine, or Plan Dalet, or what Ben Gurion, Sharett, Weitz, Dayan, etc. said about forcing Palestinians off their property and out of the areas Zionists wanted to possess? Or are you so bigoted you don't think people being attacked and purged from their communities have a right to fight back if they're Muslims?

You are mistaken about Muslims being unable to live in peace with Jews. And you are mistaken if you think the Muslims, Christians, and Jews of Palestine were ever distinct, unrelated populations.

 

[Derec]

You are mistaken about Muslims being unable to live in peace with Jews.

I do not think Muslims are able to live in peace with anybody, including fellow Muslims.

Look at the conflicts going around the world, vast majority involve Muslims.

 

[Arctish]

You are mistaken about Muslims being unable to live in peace with Jews.

I do not think Muslims are able to live in peace with anybody, including fellow Muslims.

Then you know nothing of the history of the region.

Look at the conflicts going around the world, vast majority involve Muslims.

Okay, I'm looking. I see an assortment of conflicts involving an assortment of religious, racial, and cultural groups, fighting for the usual reasons: money, power, influence, land, access to resources, etc. I see that the combatants are members of a lot of different faiths, with the biggest faith groups having the most people involved in the conflicts. Which ones do you think are Muslim specific, i.e. conflicts that could only happen if Muslims are involved?

I also see you attempting to shift the topic away from Netanyahu's plans for the Palestinian people and onto your usual Muslim-bashing stomping grounds.

 

[ZiprHead]

Senior Israeli Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu believes the Israeli army should stop arresting Palestinians and execute them instead.

“It must execute them and leave no one alive,” Eliyahu wrote in a Facebook post Tuesday, according to Defend Democracy Press.

“If they don’t stop after we kill 100, then we must kill 1,000,” Eliyahu told the Jerusalem Post in 2007. “And if they do not stop after 1,000, then we must kill 10,000. If they still don’t stop we must kill 100,000, even a million.”

In a previous Facebook post, Eliyahu argued Palestinians who are arrested should not be kept alive.

“If you leave him alive, there is a fear that he will be released and kill other people,” he wrote. “We must eradicate this evil from within our midst.”

https://www.alternet.org/2017/06/senior-israeli-rabbi-calls-mass-execution-palestinians/

 

[Arctish]

Senior Israeli Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu believes the Israeli army should stop arresting Palestinians and execute them instead.

“It must execute them and leave no one alive,” Eliyahu wrote in a Facebook post Tuesday, according to Defend Democracy Press.

“If they don’t stop after we kill 100, then we must kill 1,000,” Eliyahu told the Jerusalem Post in 2007. “And if they do not stop after 1,000, then we must kill 10,000. If they still don’t stop we must kill 100,000, even a million.”

In a previous Facebook post, Eliyahu argued Palestinians who are arrested should not be kept alive.

“If you leave him alive, there is a fear that he will be released and kill other people,” he wrote. “We must eradicate this evil from within our midst.”

https://www.alternet.org/2017/06/senior-israeli-rabbi-calls-mass-execution-palestinians/

Ye gods, this guy:

Shmuel Eliyahu (Hebrew: שמואל אליהו‎; b. 29 November 1956 / AM 25 Kislev 5717) is the Israeli Orthodox Chief Rabbi of Safed and a member of the Chief Rabbinate Council.

In March 2008, Eliyahu called for "state-sanctioned revenge" against Arabs. According to Haaretz, Eliyahu wrote an article for the newsletter Eretz Yisrael Shelanu ("Our Land of Israel"), wherein he proposed "hanging the children of the terrorist who carried out the attack in the Mercaz Harav yeshiva from a tree".

The Chief Rabbinate of Israel is designated by law as the supreme authority on Judaism in Israel, which means Rabbi Eliyahu isn't an outlier. His views carry the official stamp of approval from the other Rabbis on the Council.

I bet there are a couple of posters here who approve of them, too.