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South Carolina police officer investigated after slamming student to ground at Spring Valley High
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Poor persecuted police person.
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Her motives and mindset and pretty much irrelevant here. That would be applicable in a potential punishment for her actions, which oddly enough have become whitewashed because an officer thought to himself, 'You think you are causing a disruption in the classroom, just wait to see what I have in mind".
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No words... should have sent a poet.Freepers said:
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I agree.
Yeah, you right. The girl caused a disturbance for a teacher in a single classroom, the officer has caused a disturbance for a whole nation.
We need guns to protect us from the government who is tyrannical and dictatorial and will subjugate us at any moment, and we must always submit to any authority at any time or we deserve any punishment we receive.
I agree with you, that's why I say she was being a brat, not that she was a brat. Because people can act bratty for all kinds of reasons. Some are sympathetic, some are not. So the action of saying "no no no," especially to the principal, was a bratty thing to do - even if her reason for doing it was that she wanted to check text updates from her mother at the hospital. And neither of those extremes, the totally sympathetic or the totally unsympathetic, justified the treatment she got.
@Selsaral
If you insert "white people" between We and need.
Then change the rest of the "we"s into "they".
You can maintain the logical consistency of the freepr mindset and protect your irony meter.
If you insert "white people" between We and need.
Then change the rest of the "we"s into "they".
You can maintain the logical consistency of the freepr mindset and protect your irony meter.
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"Students say Fields had a reputation for violence and was colloquially known as “Officer Slam” at Spring Valley High."
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/10/28/3716923/spring-valley-high-officer-slam/
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/10/28/3716923/spring-valley-high-officer-slam/
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Maybe he is just into publicly performed poetry ...
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One of my favorite movies of all time.
And yeah it is a great metaphor for the “legitimated” brutalizations of humans.
But you draw such an ignoble lesson from it.
The movie ended in Luke’s death because he was stronger than the other prisoners, far more full of life than them; he wasn't going to settle for an un-free life. The others, due to long oppression and their submission to it, had lost the memory of how to choose for themselves without bosses. Remember how the other prisoners kept repeating the stories of their hero to compensate living a half-life? Even Dragline’s impulse to escape with Luke was automated, he couldn’t deal with it once his dread of freedom crept back in.
Wasn’t it the Society Red character that took the “resistance is futile, just submit” position? He wanted to be the ‘better-because-I’m-smart’ one but was among the weakest, stripped-of-vitality, ‘just play it safe” persons of them all.
I think the prison’s a metaphor for life in a society that hammers down the nail that sticks out, whether it’s prison guards, police, employers… all the odious things in life that won’t just “let me be” as Luke complains. The prisoners are all of us. Some are individual enough to find oppression intolerable and act out; most aren’t, they just comply and then compensate with whatever distractions are handy.
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You know, it is stuff like this that makes me wonder whether you are just trolling in all of these threads.
Maybe he was like that preacher that bragged about getting a boy to come to Jesus by gut punching him and knocking out his wind.
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The desk fell over because she was struggling. This can be clearly seen in the video. The cop didn't mean for the desk & her to fall over like that. However, if this cop has been in trouble for this kind of shit before, the police department & the school should come up with another method of removing students from class rooms. If some kid is being a brat, they don't deserve to be hurt.
There's really no telling if she would or would not have struggled if he dragged the desk with her in it out of the classroom. What do you do if a kid is struggling while you're trying to move the desk out of the classroom? You still risk hurting the kid. Bringing in a cop to deal with a kid only works if the kid respects the cop's authority. Maybe a cop shouldn't be brought in at all for this situation. I like the idea of giving her the choice of leaving the classroom now or get suspended for a whole day.
There's really no telling if she would or would not have struggled if he dragged the desk with her in it out of the classroom. What do you do if a kid is struggling while you're trying to move the desk out of the classroom? You still risk hurting the kid. Bringing in a cop to deal with a kid only works if the kid respects the cop's authority. Maybe a cop shouldn't be brought in at all for this situation. I like the idea of giving her the choice of leaving the classroom now or get suspended for a whole day.
This is a society I do not want to live in, and I will not accept it for our society
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As he said "It's all up to you. I can be a good guy or I can be one mean son of a bitch". Regardless, it's a great quote.
The way I see it, Paul Newman did something stupid and faced consequences for it. Instead of backing down and serving his time, he rebelled repeatedly which ended in his death at the end of the movie. Kind of sums up a lot of these cases we've been talking about. Had Michael Brown not attacked the cop he'd have served some time for the robbery but he'd be out before long - perhaps he could have even pleaded down to probation. Instead he's dead and has only himself to blame.
Same with our unnamed girl - she could have surrendered her phone and her mother could have picked it up later.
Here is the problem with your little faux-righteous speech up there... Your definition of "attack" has zero basis in reality.
Michael Brown did not "attack" anyone, and that fact will never ever change no matter how many times you claim otherwise.
And the student in the OP did not "attack" anyone either. Sure, she could have surrendered her phone. She didn't. That's what obnoxious teens do. It does not constitute an action on her part that justifies the SRO's attack on her.
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It's harder to see in the video, but he tosses her across the room after he separates her from the desk. As it turns out, she has neck and back problems now, and her arm is in a cast. Also, it seems her mother recently died and she has been living in a foster home. So, she was emotionally unstable. She needed understanding and kindness. Instead she got shit justice, American style.
No Derec, you do not need to make up a derogatory name to call her. "Student" works just fine; we will all know who you are talking about.
But the fact that you do... repeatedly... whether or not an actual name is provided... consistently make up derogatory names for victims of police (& wannabe police) brutality says a LOT about you.
In the meantime, Ksen is correct. This time you inadvertently picked a label that is an accurate description of what the SRO treated her as.