South Dakota governer executed her puppy because she didn't like it

[hurtinbuckaroo]

I need to look up into on her staff to see if she has an official “beer-holder”.

"Look up into..."
"official 'beer holder..."
?
Am I the only one who found this post a bit pulchritudinous?
Tom


ETA ~I was trying to remember how to spell "pulchritudinous" as I started the post. Somehow, at "pulc " my phone decided to make that the word.
Have mobile phones become conscious?"

“Info”
Otto snuck that one in; the f and t are too similar for my old eyes.

 

[Elixir]

I think her VP candidacy just hit bottom.

Yeah. Now she is one of “the best people”.

 

[thebeave]

I need to look up into on her staff to see if she has an official “beer-holder”.

"Look up into..."
"official 'beer holder..."
?
Am I the only one who found this post a bit pulchritudinous?
Tom


ETA ~I was trying to remember how to spell "pulchritudinous" as I started the post. Somehow, at "pulc " my phone decided to make that the word.
Have mobile phones become conscious?"

I don't think you're using the right word there, are you? It means "beautiful" according to the dictionary. My guess is you just learned what it means, and you are desperate to shoehorn it into a thread somehow to look smart. Sorta had the opposite effect, didn't it?

 

[thebeave]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/13/politics/south-dakota-kristi-noem-banned-tribal-lands-reaj/index.html

She is now pissing off the tribes.

The Standing Rock Sioux, Cheyenne River Sioux, Rosebud Sioux, and Oglala Sioux Tribes have all moved to banish the governor from their lands.

She is getting called out on her shit. I think her VP candidacy just hit bottom.

What cartels is she talking about? Do we know for sure that there aren't cartels there and that the tribal leaders aren't benefitting? Although, I don't know if its her business anyway. Are Indian tribal lands under the jurisdiction of the governor?

 

[Elixir]

My guess is you just learned what it means, and you are desperate to shoehorn it into a thread somehow to look smart.

Are you calling Tom a sesquipedalian?

 

[thebeave]

My guess is you just learned what it means, and you are desperate to shoehorn it into a thread somehow to look smart.

Are you calling Tom a sesquipedalian?

I had to look that word up. OMG, that's hilarious! Now that's two new words I learned today. Well done, sir.

 

[TomC]

I need to look up into on her staff to see if she has an official “beer-holder”.

"Look up into..."
"official 'beer holder..."
?
Am I the only one who found this post a bit pulchritudinous?
Tom


ETA ~I was trying to remember how to spell "pulchritudinous" as I started the post. Somehow, at "pulc " my phone decided to make that the word.
Have mobile phones become conscious?"

I don't think you're using the right word there, are you? It means "beautiful" according to the dictionary. My guess is you just learned what it means, and you are desperate to shoehorn it into a thread somehow to look smart.

There are dictionaries that weren't published by Hugh Hefner.
You old straight dudes might not realize all that. Maybe if you had spent less time, back in 5th grade, staring at girls chests?
Tom

 

[TomC]

My guess is you just learned what it means, and you are desperate to shoehorn it into a thread somehow to look smart.

Are you calling Tom a sesquipedalian?

I had to look that word up. OMG, that's hilarious! Now that's two new words I learned today. Well done, sir.

I'm not googling that.

What do you think it means?
Tom

 

[thebeave]

My guess is you just learned what it means, and you are desperate to shoehorn it into a thread somehow to look smart.

Are you calling Tom a sesquipedalian?

I had to look that word up. OMG, that's hilarious! Now that's two new words I learned today. Well done, sir.

I'm not googling that.

What do you think it means?
Tom

Look it up. It's priceless.

 

[TomC]

My guess is you just learned what it means, and you are desperate to shoehorn it into a thread somehow to look smart.

Are you calling Tom a sesquipedalian?

I had to look that word up. OMG, that's hilarious! Now that's two new words I learned today. Well done, sir.

I'm not googling that.

What do you think it means?
Tom

Look it up. It's priceless.

I don't want to do that.

Google can draw their own conclusions from "burly daddy bottoms in swimming pool", but I have some standards.
Tom

 

[thebeave]

My guess is you just learned what it means, and you are desperate to shoehorn it into a thread somehow to look smart.

Are you calling Tom a sesquipedalian?

I had to look that word up. OMG, that's hilarious! Now that's two new words I learned today. Well done, sir.

I'm not googling that.

What do you think it means?
Tom

Look it up. It's priceless.

I don't want to do that.

Google can draw their own conclusions from "burly daddy bottoms in swimming pool", but I have some standards.
Tom

Geez dude, its not like looking up "tubgirl" or "two girls, one cup". Google it.

and please, do not under any circumstances check those other two out.

And by the way, here's the defintion of pulchritudinous I used. I like this part of it:

Let's be honest: Your opportunities for using this word in casual conversation are probably pretty slim.

But you managed to do it!

 

[TomC]

But you managed to do it!

Anybody's opportunities for using any polysyllabic words are pretty slim.
Unless they do stuff like post on Internet discussion forums.

Most people are too smart to do that.
I'm not that smart.
Tom

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

My guess is you just learned what it means, and you are desperate to shoehorn it into a thread somehow to look smart.

Are you calling Tom a sesquipedalian?

I had to look that word up. OMG, that's hilarious! Now that's two new words I learned today. Well done, sir.

I'd say I just learned it too, but honestly, I'll forget about it in 15 minutes.

 

[Ford]

And now, it's been made into a movie:

 

[Elixir]

There are dictionaries that weren't published by Hugh Hefner.

It’s from the Latin, Tom.
Pe-dates Hefner by a bunch of centuries.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I didn't grow up myself on a farm or ranch, but I did grow up in a rural area where ranching and farming were the lifeblood of the local economy, and many of my classmates were sons and daughters of farmers and ranchers, and active participants in their parents' work. So, "putting down" (or to use the vernacular from this thread, "murdering", "executing") livestock, predators or other animals (even beloved pets at the end of their life) was pretty routine. The reasons included food (obviously), illness, injury, behaviorial issues, etc. It was just part of the ranching lifestyle, and we didn't consider such people "pyschopathic".

Exactly. It's simply how the world works when you have livestock. Messy, but quick and painless. I will not fault her for what's a normal method in her environment. And I will not fault her for killing the dog as I don't feel we know enough--but I will strongly fault her for getting in the situation in the first place.

In my own family, our dog (barely past being a puppy) got loose and chased and bit an 11 year old girl walking home from school. This was after several earlier close calls, and generally aggressive behavior toward strangers. My dad took him to the pound the next day, and us kids were bawling. We had only one dog pound in our little town, and it was NOT a "no-kill" shelter (not even sure if that was ever a thing back in the mid-70's). I understand now why he did it. Lawsuits, possibility of serious injuries and maiming...it just wasn't worth dealing with, while he had a family to raise. I guess this makes him a "psychopathic murderer" like KN? I think this whole thing is overblown. IMHO KN's big mistake was not in putting her aggressive dog (or goat) down at her own hands, but writing about it in a boastful manner like its pertinent to being a good politician or leader. That was pretty weak.

Yup, you do not want an aggressive, bitey dog around. Pound's ok if you warn them of the history (but I very much doubt that with that history the dog would get adopted.) Putting it in the book was a major mistake--she fucked up in letting the situation happen and then she comes along and tries to pretend it was a good thing?! Everyone makes mistakes but you when you can't even recognize it was a mistake that's another matter.

 

[Toni]

I didn't grow up myself on a farm or ranch, but I did grow up in a rural area where ranching and farming were the lifeblood of the local economy, and many of my classmates were sons and daughters of farmers and ranchers, and active participants in their parents' work. So, "putting down" (or to use the vernacular from this thread, "murdering", "executing") livestock, predators or other animals (even beloved pets at the end of their life) was pretty routine. The reasons included food (obviously), illness, injury, behaviorial issues, etc. It was just part of the ranching lifestyle, and we didn't consider such people "pyschopathic".

Exactly. It's simply how the world works when you have livestock. Messy, but quick and painless. I will not fault her for what's a normal method in her environment. And I will not fault her for killing the dog as I don't feel we know enough--but I will strongly fault her for getting in the situation in the first place.

In my own family, our dog (barely past being a puppy) got loose and chased and bit an 11 year old girl walking home from school. This was after several earlier close calls, and generally aggressive behavior toward strangers. My dad took him to the pound the next day, and us kids were bawling. We had only one dog pound in our little town, and it was NOT a "no-kill" shelter (not even sure if that was ever a thing back in the mid-70's). I understand now why he did it. Lawsuits, possibility of serious injuries and maiming...it just wasn't worth dealing with, while he had a family to raise. I guess this makes him a "psychopathic murderer" like KN? I think this whole thing is overblown. IMHO KN's big mistake was not in putting her aggressive dog (or goat) down at her own hands, but writing about it in a boastful manner like its pertinent to being a good politician or leader. That was pretty weak.

Yup, you do not want an aggressive, bitey dog around. Pound's ok if you warn them of the history (but I very much doubt that with that history the dog would get adopted.) Putting it in the book was a major mistake--she fucked up in letting the situation happen and then she comes along and tries to pretend it was a good thing?! Everyone makes mistakes but you when you can't even recognize it was a mistake that's another matter.

Except—it is altogether possible that the dog would have fared well as a pet rather than a working dog. This would have most likely required the intervention of a skilled dog trainer and a knowkedgeable family to adopt the dog.

What no one seems willing to address is the inherent sexism in this situation: A female politician felt the need to demonstrate that she was as tough as any man. Never mind that I am more likely to feel it is time to put a beloved pet to sleep than my husband as if that were some measure of ‘toughness’ or as if being ‘tough’ were an actual gender based characteristic. As a woman, I don’t want to eject women who are ‘as tough as any man’ or ‘as competent’ as any man. I want to eject women who are well qualified, good leaders, service minded individuals who are dedicated to serving the public. Which is exactly what I want from men. I absolutely do know that men and women often have different perspectives on issues, as do black, Native, Hispanic, Asian, and white people, people who have dealt with various hardships, come from rural or suburban or urban backgrounds, various religious backgrounds, including no religion and so forth. In other words, women do not need to act like men to be good leaders and it’s a sick society who believes they do. The white, Christian male perspective is not the standard to which we should all aspire.

 

[thebeave]

Its probably not as easy to pass this dog off onto someone else as you might imagine. It makes little sense for someone to adopt a dog with a history of bad, aggressive behavior, and then pay to have a skilled dog trainer to (if you're lucky), make him behave, when you can just get a brand new puppy and train him right from the get-go with your family. Its really a long shot that Cricket's adoption would ever work out, especially in a low density population like South Dakota. This whole event also touches on our inconsistent and hypocritical treatment of animals. Dogs are generally cute, fun and smart, so we get upset if we have to put them down, for any reason. But so are pigs, but because we happen to like the taste of their meat, its off to the slaughterhouse. We could all put in the effort to become vegetarians and spare their lives, but we don't. Because...yummy. And it doesn't make headlines around the world.

With regard to your second part, I largely agree about the sexism angle. Sarah Palin bragged about hunting animals from a helicopter, and her soccer mom versus pitbull joke. And Hillary Clinton seemed a little unnecessarily on the blood thirsty side at times. I suspect a lot of that rhetoric was them trying to act tough, thinking it gets them respect. As president, you do have to be tough and often make decisions regarding the risking and taking of human lives, but shooting animals doesn't really relate much to that, IMHO.

 

[laughing dog]

Its probably not as easy to pass this dog off onto someone else as you might imagine. It makes little sense for someone to adopt a dog with a history of bad, aggressive behavior, and then pay to have a skilled dog trainer to (if you're lucky), make him behave, when you can just get a brand new puppy and train him right from the get-go with your family. Its really a long shot that Cricket's adoption would ever work out, especially in a low density population like South Dakota. This whole event also touches on our inconsistent and hypocritical treatment of animals. Dogs are generally cute, fun and smart, so we get upset if we have to put them down, for any reason. But so are pigs, but because we happen to like the taste of their meat, its off to the slaughterhouse. We could all put in the effort to become vegetarians and spare their lives, but we don't. Because...yummy. And it doesn't make headlines around the world.

I like how you immediately decided that Cricket was some sort of irredeemable monster dog when, in fact, it was a poorly trained puppy. The puppy did was it was supposed to do - hunt birds - embarrassed her in front of her neighbors and then nipped at her. The fact is that the governor did not bother to find the dog another home. She took it home, shot it and then decided as long as there were animals to be killed, went and got a goat and then killed it for acting a like a goat.

While it is true, we will never know whether another owner would have been able to rescue Cricket, this woman did not even bother to try because she was embarrassed and angry at the dog.

 

[Elixir]

she was embarrassed and angry at the dog.

Nobody seems to realize;
THE CRUELTY IS THE POINT