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There are in fact dangerous animals which sadly, given an environment, may need to be eliminated from the gene pool. I wonder if the good governor has ever taken a look in the mirror.
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She doesn’t get that the legality of her actions is not the troubling issue of her lack of judgment on multiple levels (the chouce of killing the dog and then yhe goat, the choice of putting this in a book, and the notion this shoes something positive about herself).
Add in that she made two teeny weeny mistakes in her book about meeting the leader of North Korea, and having a meeting with the President of France cancelled, snd Gov. Noem looks more like desperate sociopathic nitwit than a sober responsible adult.
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I'm getting strong Kari Lake vibes here. While Kari is not Arizona's governor, she believes she either is or at least should be, and she has also been angling...or more accurately desperately begging...to be Trump's VP pick. She's spent a lot of time at Mar A Largo - easy to do when you don't have a job - and likewise seems to have fallen out of favor with The Nodfather. Granted, Lake hasn't gone as far down the "Frontier Woman Cosplay" as Noem (she was a TV anchor for decades, after all) but she has posted videos of herself shooting things.
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So, perfectly qualified to be a part of Team Trump, then?
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This!!
Swammerdami
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"Massacred livestock"???
Is this how to describe a non-lethal attack against a single chicken? Netanyahu has killed or maimed 100,000 human Palestinians, but the same Ilk that allies with the Governor of South What-the-Fuck needs to change their diapers whenever words like "massacre" are applied to Netanyahu's atrocities.But let's be fair here. Had the happy puppy who liked to play with chickens been pregnant with a deformed foetus, then the glamorous Governor of the Great State of South What-the-Fuck would surely have done as the Baby Jesus would have wished. She would have waited until the predator gave birth . . . then assassinated both mother and child.
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[off-topic] Full Disclaimer: We had several dogs at my hermitage in rural Thailand, and they developed a taste for chicken. Unlike the heroic gun-toting Leader of What-the-Fuck we didn't resort to capital punishment; we just ensured that the ringleaders were confined after night-fall. (We had suspicion, but no proof, that one of the neighbors did attempt to poison our dog(s).)
Our neighbors did have good reason to down-play our faults and those of our dogs. My wife was always very generous with them and I once drove the chicken-owner's wife at high speed to a distant hospital, probably saving her life. She had drunk a bottle of insecticide in despair that her husband had become a methamphetamine addict. (The meth addict has since reformed and even become a minor government official.)
The financial value of the meth addict's hens was probably minimal, but I did advise him to keep his prize roosters confined. Cock-fighting is a major gambling sport in rural Thailand, and this guy was very proud of his vigorous and special cock.
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Yes, let's be fair and since we are off topic, mention that Hamas attacked Israel and continues to refuse to release hostages or to agree to a ceasefire. I feel for the people of Palestine as I feel for every people inhabiting land invaded by bloodthirsty and hostile foreign forces (including Israel and Ukraine) but not for Hamas which has sworn to kill all Jews world wide and somehow gets Israel labeled as engaging in genocide. But I digress...
"Massacred livestock"???
But let's be fair here. Had the happy puppy who liked to play with chickens been pregnant with a deformed foetus, then the glamorous Governor of the Great State of South What-the-Fuck would surely have done as the Baby Jesus would have wished. She would have waited until the predator gave birth . . . then assassinated both mother and child.
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[off-topic] Full Disclaimer: We had several dogs at my hermitage in rural Thailand, and they developed a taste for chicken. Unlike the heroic gun-toting Leader of What-the-Fuck we didn't resort to capital punishment; we just ensured that the ringleaders were confined after night-fall. (We had suspicion, but no proof, that one of the neighbors did attempt to poison our dog(s).)
Our neighbors did have good reason to down-play our faults and those of our dogs. My wife was always very generous with them and I once drove the chicken-owner's wife at high speed to a distant hospital, probably saving her life. She had drunk a bottle of insecticide in despair that her husband had become a methamphetamine addict. (The meth addict has since reformed and even become a minor government official.)
The financial value of the meth addict's hens was probably minimal, but I did advise him to keep his prize roosters confined. Cock-fighting is a major gambling sport in rural Thailand, and this guy was proud of his best cock.
I haven't read Noem's book so I don't actually know what she wrote/had written on her behalf but if a dog had gotten into a neighbor's henhouse and killed chickens or was otherwise harassing the neighbor's livestock, it is quite plausible that the neighbor would have demanded that the dog be put down. But even in that situation, Noem could have handled the situation more humanely by re-homing the dog to a non-ranch/farm family through any number of animal rescues. And then lied about it to the neighbors and simply not included it in her book. She is not adverse to lying, after all.
Many years ago, on a different and different type of forum, for some reason there was a discussion about guns, etc. and one poster let me know that men (at least a certain kind of man, especially him) found women who were 'tough' and who could handle a firearm to be wildly attractive. Noem is very attractive and among a certain type of person, this would be enhanced by her 'toughness' and willingness to handle business 'like a man.'
Full disclosure: I grew up with an uncle and a grandfather who farmed and hunted and shooting an injured animal or a vicious dog was the preferred method of putting the animal down. It was quick and cheap and there was no suffering, aside of course, from the impact. If you knew what you were doing (and they were expert shots) the pain was over very, very, very quickly. Of course, those were different times and a lot of the farmland where I grew up now houses warehouses and fulfillment centers instead of growing corn and soybeans or pasturing cattle as God intended so what do I know?
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The real question is, how to get Trump to South Dakota and have him
> exhibit out-of-control behavior, with no respect for norms
> have a 'disgusting, musky, rancid' odor
> kill a few chickens
I think we're 2/3 there on the benchmarks.
> exhibit out-of-control behavior, with no respect for norms
> have a 'disgusting, musky, rancid' odor
> kill a few chickens
I think we're 2/3 there on the benchmarks.
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I note the presence of several hunting dog trainers in S. Dakota, (and their comments that dogs don't mature enough to be effective hunters until at least age 2) - and am wondering which trainer Noem took this dog to? 
We have a 2-year-old Brittany. All the drive in the world and well trained. He is just now getting the focus that he would need to hunt effectively. I sure as shit wouldn't trust him off leash anywhere near a chicken. It is like he has endogenous meth and cocaine dispensers.
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Yes, let's be fair and since we are off topic, mention that Hamas attacked Israel and continues to refuse to release hostages or to agree to a ceasefire. I feel for the people of Palestine as I feel for every people inhabiting land invaded by bloodthirsty and hostile foreign forces (including Israel and Ukraine) but not for Hamas which has sworn to kill all Jews world wide and somehow gets Israel labeled as engaging in genocide. But I digress...
"Massacred livestock"???
But let's be fair here. Had the happy puppy who liked to play with chickens been pregnant with a deformed foetus, then the glamorous Governor of the Great State of South What-the-Fuck would surely have done as the Baby Jesus would have wished. She would have waited until the predator gave birth . . . then assassinated both mother and child.
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[off-topic] Full Disclaimer: We had several dogs at my hermitage in rural Thailand, and they developed a taste for chicken. Unlike the heroic gun-toting Leader of What-the-Fuck we didn't resort to capital punishment; we just ensured that the ringleaders were confined after night-fall. (We had suspicion, but no proof, that one of the neighbors did attempt to poison our dog(s).)
Our neighbors did have good reason to down-play our faults and those of our dogs. My wife was always very generous with them and I once drove the chicken-owner's wife at high speed to a distant hospital, probably saving her life. She had drunk a bottle of insecticide in despair that her husband had become a methamphetamine addict. (The meth addict has since reformed and even become a minor government official.)
The financial value of the meth addict's hens was probably minimal, but I did advise him to keep his prize roosters confined. Cock-fighting is a major gambling sport in rural Thailand, and this guy was proud of his best cock.
I haven't read Noem's book so I don't actually know what she wrote/had written on her behalf but if a dog had gotten into a neighbor's henhouse and killed chickens or was otherwise harassing the neighbor's livestock, it is quite plausible that the neighbor would have demanded that the dog be put down. But even in that situation, Noem could have handled the situation more humanely by re-homing the dog to a non-ranch/farm family through any number of animal rescues. And then lied about it to the neighbors and simply not included it in her book. She is not adverse to lying, after all.
Many years ago, on a different and different type of forum, for some reason there was a discussion about guns, etc. and one poster let me know that men (at least a certain kind of man, especially him) found women who were 'tough' and who could handle a firearm to be wildly attractive. Noem is very attractive and among a certain type of person, this would be enhanced by her 'toughness' and willingness to handle business 'like a man.'
Full disclosure: I grew up with an uncle and a grandfather who farmed and hunted and shooting an injured animal or a vicious dog was the preferred method of putting the animal down. It was quick and cheap and there was no suffering, aside of course, from the impact. If you knew what you were doing (and they were expert shots) the pain was over very, very, very quickly. Of course, those were different times and a lot of the farmland where I grew up now houses warehouses and fulfillment centers instead of growing corn and soybeans or pasturing cattle as God intended so what do I know?
^^This
I didn't grow up myself on a farm or ranch, but I did grow up in a rural area where ranching and farming were the lifeblood of the local economy, and many of my classmates were sons and daughters of farmers and ranchers, and active participants in their parents' work. So, "putting down" (or to use the vernacular from this thread, "murdering", "executing") livestock, predators or other animals (even beloved pets at the end of their life) was pretty routine. The reasons included food (obviously), illness, injury, behaviorial issues, etc. It was just part of the ranching lifestyle, and we didn't consider such people "pyschopathic". I can see it would seem disturbing to those who aren't accustomed to it. I recall one of my classmates grew up as a city girl in LA and moved to my community when she was about 11. She was invited to a classmate's ranch for her birthday party, and while the kids were playing games, she heard a terrible commotion and animal squeeling noises behind her. She turned around to see her friends' brothers and father slaughtering a pig in the back of a pickup truck, with gallons of blood leaking out at the bottom of the tailgate. She said she hadn't seen that much blood in one spot until the movie Carrie came out! She was a bit disturbed and taken aback but the other ranching classmates barely batted an eye. IIRC, the pig was roasted that night for the birthday party meal. I guess they could have had beans and rice and birthday cake instead and saved an innocent pig's life?
In my own family, our dog (barely past being a puppy) got loose and chased and bit an 11 year old girl walking home from school. This was after several earlier close calls, and generally aggressive behavior toward strangers. My dad took him to the pound the next day, and us kids were bawling. We had only one dog pound in our little town, and it was NOT a "no-kill" shelter (not even sure if that was ever a thing back in the mid-70's). I understand now why he did it. Lawsuits, possibility of serious injuries and maiming...it just wasn't worth dealing with, while he had a family to raise. I guess this makes him a "psychopathic murderer" like KN? I think this whole thing is overblown. IMHO KN's big mistake was not in putting her aggressive dog (or goat) down at her own hands, but writing about it in a boastful manner like its pertinent to being a good politician or leader. That was pretty weak.
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Vladimir Putin: "Hold my vodka."
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Vladimir Putin reportedly cut out the heart of a deer on a hunting trip with Silvio Berlusconi and served it to him on a tray, causing the former Italian prime minister to vomit.
Berlusconi's colleague, Fabrizio Cicchitto, revealed the incident, stating that it exposed Putin's "violent nature" during the 2013 hunting excursion at one of Putin's vacation homes.
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Vladimir Putin reportedly cut out the heart of a deer on a hunting trip with Silvio Berlusconi and served it to him on a tray, causing the former Italian prime minister to vomit.
Berlusconi's colleague, Fabrizio Cicchitto, revealed the incident, stating that it exposed Putin's "violent nature" during the 2013 hunting excursion at one of Putin's vacation homes.
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Vladimir Putin Showed His ‘Violent Nature’ In Deer-Hunting Stunt: Report
The Russian president’s gesture was so jarring that it reportedly made ex-Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi throw up.
T.G.G. Moogly
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Amen! You would think a person who has become a state governor would have grown up a bit over the years. In her case she is still Kristi McBangBang. Intellectually and psychoogically she's still an adolescent because she's so proud of having done this. Lack of judgement, lack of maturity, lack of a lot of things. She would have won a lot more support if she had said how stupid, immature and uninformed her actions had been and how she's grown up since then. Not hardly.
I grew up in southern VA. We killed things, lots of things. Sometimes for good reasons and not.Yes, let's be fair and since we are off topic, mention that Hamas attacked Israel and continues to refuse to release hostages or to agree to a ceasefire. I feel for the people of Palestine as I feel for every people inhabiting land invaded by bloodthirsty and hostile foreign forces (including Israel and Ukraine) but not for Hamas which has sworn to kill all Jews world wide and somehow gets Israel labeled as engaging in genocide. But I digress...
"Massacred livestock"???
But let's be fair here. Had the happy puppy who liked to play with chickens been pregnant with a deformed foetus, then the glamorous Governor of the Great State of South What-the-Fuck would surely have done as the Baby Jesus would have wished. She would have waited until the predator gave birth . . . then assassinated both mother and child.
- - - - - - - - - - - -
[off-topic] Full Disclaimer: We had several dogs at my hermitage in rural Thailand, and they developed a taste for chicken. Unlike the heroic gun-toting Leader of What-the-Fuck we didn't resort to capital punishment; we just ensured that the ringleaders were confined after night-fall. (We had suspicion, but no proof, that one of the neighbors did attempt to poison our dog(s).)
Our neighbors did have good reason to down-play our faults and those of our dogs. My wife was always very generous with them and I once drove the chicken-owner's wife at high speed to a distant hospital, probably saving her life. She had drunk a bottle of insecticide in despair that her husband had become a methamphetamine addict. (The meth addict has since reformed and even become a minor government official.)
The financial value of the meth addict's hens was probably minimal, but I did advise him to keep his prize roosters confined. Cock-fighting is a major gambling sport in rural Thailand, and this guy was proud of his best cock.
I haven't read Noem's book so I don't actually know what she wrote/had written on her behalf but if a dog had gotten into a neighbor's henhouse and killed chickens or was otherwise harassing the neighbor's livestock, it is quite plausible that the neighbor would have demanded that the dog be put down. But even in that situation, Noem could have handled the situation more humanely by re-homing the dog to a non-ranch/farm family through any number of animal rescues. And then lied about it to the neighbors and simply not included it in her book. She is not adverse to lying, after all.
Many years ago, on a different and different type of forum, for some reason there was a discussion about guns, etc. and one poster let me know that men (at least a certain kind of man, especially him) found women who were 'tough' and who could handle a firearm to be wildly attractive. Noem is very attractive and among a certain type of person, this would be enhanced by her 'toughness' and willingness to handle business 'like a man.'
Full disclosure: I grew up with an uncle and a grandfather who farmed and hunted and shooting an injured animal or a vicious dog was the preferred method of putting the animal down. It was quick and cheap and there was no suffering, aside of course, from the impact. If you knew what you were doing (and they were expert shots) the pain was over very, very, very quickly. Of course, those were different times and a lot of the farmland where I grew up now houses warehouses and fulfillment centers instead of growing corn and soybeans or pasturing cattle as God intended so what do I know?
^^This
I didn't grow up myself on a farm or ranch, but I did grow up in a rural area where ranching and farming were the lifeblood of the local economy, and many of my classmates were sons and daughters of farmers and ranchers, and active participants in their parents' work. So, "putting down" (or to use the vernacular from this thread, "murdering", "executing") livestock, predators or other animals (even beloved pets at the end of their life) was pretty routine. The reasons included food (obviously), illness, injury, behaviorial issues, etc. It was just part of the ranching lifestyle, and we didn't consider such people "pyschopathic". I can see it would seem disturbing to those who aren't accustomed to it. I recall one of my classmates grew up as a city girl in LA and moved to my community when she was about 11. She was invited to a classmate's ranch for her birthday party, and while the kids were playing games, she heard a terrible commotion and animal squeeling noises behind her. She turned around to see her friends' brothers and father slaughtering a pig in the back of a pickup truck, with gallons of blood leaking out at the bottom of the tailgate. She said she hadn't seen that much blood in one spot until the movie Carrie came out! She was a bit disturbed and taken aback but the other ranching classmates barely batted an eye. IIRC, the pig was roasted that night for the birthday party meal. I guess they could have had beans and rice and birthday cake instead and saved an innocent pig's life?
In my own family, our dog (barely past being a puppy) got loose and chased and bit an 11 year old girl walking home from school. This was after several earlier close calls, and generally aggressive behavior toward strangers. My dad took him to the pound the next day, and us kids were bawling. We had only one dog pound in our little town, and it was NOT a "no-kill" shelter (not even sure if that was ever a thing back in the mid-70's). I understand now why he did it. Lawsuits, possibility of serious injuries and maiming...it just wasn't worth dealing with, while he had a family to raise. I guess this makes him a "psychopathic murderer" like KN? I think this whole thing is overblown. IMHO KN's big mistake was not in putting her aggressive dog (or goat) down at her own hands, but writing about it in a boastful manner like its pertinent to being a good politician or leader. That was pretty weak.
Someone that killed a pet wire haired pointer because they let it attack chickens would still be considered an asshole.
We had a rescued chocolate lab that went blind. It became very fear aggressive and irretrievably dangerous. We killed it. My wife is a veterinarian. She put down a "bait dog" that couldn't be rehabbed not too long ago. Noem's attempt at being the hot gun chick failed. She just looks like an ass that was irresponsible with a pet and killed the pet of her own fucking up.
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Noem book contains threat against Biden dog: ‘Commander, say hello to Cricket’ | Books | The Guardian
South Dakota governor and Trump VP hopeful refuses to back down amid scandal over animal killings and North Korea claim
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And speaking of shooting things, it appears now that Kristi has taken aim at her own foot.
Noem Refues To Say Whether She Met Kim Jong-un
In an interview with Jesse Watters - for some reason still considered a "news" host - Kristi dodged the question of whether she actually met the North Korean dictator.
She put it in a book, but "doesn't talk about" her conversations with world leaders.
"Well, that was put in there by a ghost writer, she didn't actually SAY that!"
Noem Refues To Say Whether She Met Kim Jong-un
In an interview with Jesse Watters - for some reason still considered a "news" host - Kristi dodged the question of whether she actually met the North Korean dictator.
She put it in a book, but "doesn't talk about" her conversations with world leaders.
"Well, that was put in there by a ghost writer, she didn't actually SAY that!"
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She definitely had more/better alternatives for how to handle a situation. I get that her dog going after chickens was not acceptable but there were many alternatives to the choice she made. And chose to write about.Yes, let's be fair and since we are off topic, mention that Hamas attacked Israel and continues to refuse to release hostages or to agree to a ceasefire. I feel for the people of Palestine as I feel for every people inhabiting land invaded by bloodthirsty and hostile foreign forces (including Israel and Ukraine) but not for Hamas which has sworn to kill all Jews world wide and somehow gets Israel labeled as engaging in genocide. But I digress...
"Massacred livestock"???
But let's be fair here. Had the happy puppy who liked to play with chickens been pregnant with a deformed foetus, then the glamorous Governor of the Great State of South What-the-Fuck would surely have done as the Baby Jesus would have wished. She would have waited until the predator gave birth . . . then assassinated both mother and child.
- - - - - - - - - - - -
[off-topic] Full Disclaimer: We had several dogs at my hermitage in rural Thailand, and they developed a taste for chicken. Unlike the heroic gun-toting Leader of What-the-Fuck we didn't resort to capital punishment; we just ensured that the ringleaders were confined after night-fall. (We had suspicion, but no proof, that one of the neighbors did attempt to poison our dog(s).)
Our neighbors did have good reason to down-play our faults and those of our dogs. My wife was always very generous with them and I once drove the chicken-owner's wife at high speed to a distant hospital, probably saving her life. She had drunk a bottle of insecticide in despair that her husband had become a methamphetamine addict. (The meth addict has since reformed and even become a minor government official.)
The financial value of the meth addict's hens was probably minimal, but I did advise him to keep his prize roosters confined. Cock-fighting is a major gambling sport in rural Thailand, and this guy was proud of his best cock.
I haven't read Noem's book so I don't actually know what she wrote/had written on her behalf but if a dog had gotten into a neighbor's henhouse and killed chickens or was otherwise harassing the neighbor's livestock, it is quite plausible that the neighbor would have demanded that the dog be put down. But even in that situation, Noem could have handled the situation more humanely by re-homing the dog to a non-ranch/farm family through any number of animal rescues. And then lied about it to the neighbors and simply not included it in her book. She is not adverse to lying, after all.
Many years ago, on a different and different type of forum, for some reason there was a discussion about guns, etc. and one poster let me know that men (at least a certain kind of man, especially him) found women who were 'tough' and who could handle a firearm to be wildly attractive. Noem is very attractive and among a certain type of person, this would be enhanced by her 'toughness' and willingness to handle business 'like a man.'
Full disclosure: I grew up with an uncle and a grandfather who farmed and hunted and shooting an injured animal or a vicious dog was the preferred method of putting the animal down. It was quick and cheap and there was no suffering, aside of course, from the impact. If you knew what you were doing (and they were expert shots) the pain was over very, very, very quickly. Of course, those were different times and a lot of the farmland where I grew up now houses warehouses and fulfillment centers instead of growing corn and soybeans or pasturing cattle as God intended so what do I know?
^^This
I didn't grow up myself on a farm or ranch, but I did grow up in a rural area where ranching and farming were the lifeblood of the local economy, and many of my classmates were sons and daughters of farmers and ranchers, and active participants in their parents' work. So, "putting down" (or to use the vernacular from this thread, "murdering", "executing") livestock, predators or other animals (even beloved pets at the end of their life) was pretty routine. The reasons included food (obviously), illness, injury, behaviorial issues, etc. It was just part of the ranching lifestyle, and we didn't consider such people "pyschopathic". I can see it would seem disturbing to those who aren't accustomed to it. I recall one of my classmates grew up as a city girl in LA and moved to my community when she was about 11. She was invited to a classmate's ranch for her birthday party, and while the kids were playing games, she heard a terrible commotion and animal squeeling noises behind her. She turned around to see her friends' brothers and father slaughtering a pig in the back of a pickup truck, with gallons of blood leaking out at the bottom of the tailgate. She said she hadn't seen that much blood in one spot until the movie Carrie came out! She was a bit disturbed and taken aback but the other ranching classmates barely batted an eye. IIRC, the pig was roasted that night for the birthday party meal. I guess they could have had beans and rice and birthday cake instead and saved an innocent pig's life?
In my own family, our dog (barely past being a puppy) got loose and chased and bit an 11 year old girl walking home from school. This was after several earlier close calls, and generally aggressive behavior toward strangers. My dad took him to the pound the next day, and us kids were bawling. We had only one dog pound in our little town, and it was NOT a "no-kill" shelter (not even sure if that was ever a thing back in the mid-70's). I understand now why he did it. Lawsuits, possibility of serious injuries and maiming...it just wasn't worth dealing with, while he had a family to raise. I guess this makes him a "psychopathic murderer" like KN? I think this whole thing is overblown. IMHO KN's big mistake was not in putting her aggressive dog (or goat) down at her own hands, but writing about it in a boastful manner like its pertinent to being a good politician or leader. That was pretty weak.
My dad and uncle graduated from squirrel and rabbit and occasionally deer and raccoon hunting to bird hunting, and raised several bird dogs, mostly Herman short haired pointer, one of whom lived at our house and was my dad’s favorite dig, ever. I saw her go on perfect point for a butterfly when she was just 6 weeks old.
Anyways my aunt kept chickens like many/most farm wives of the era, including both my grandmothers.
Never, and I mean never did any of the many dogs at my uncles’ ( including beagles, coon hounds and various bird dogs) ever, ever, ever get into the chicken yard which was quite large, actually. Nor did they ever run the cattle, either. So, it was poor management on her part that there ever was a problem.