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Swedish Social Democratic anti-semitism

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The new lefty government of Sweden recently decided to recognize the "state" of Palestine, despite the fact that this "state" has neither defined borders (they are subject to negotiations which are currently stalled), nor a capital (they want Jerusalem which is the capital of Israel), nor any degree of sovereignty over most of the territory it claims.
But that is by far not the worst thing. A social democratic (i.e. the new ruling party) politician claims that IS is a product of Mossad.
The mind boggles.
 
The new lefty government of Sweden recently decided to recognize the "state" of Palestine, despite the fact that this "state" has neither defined borders (they are subject to negotiations which are currently stalled), nor a capital (they want Jerusalem which is the capital of Israel), nor any degree of sovereignty over most of the territory it claims.
Wait... that equates anti-Semitism?
But that is by far not the worst thing. A social democratic (i.e. the new ruling party) politician claims that IS is a product of Mossad.
The mind boggles.
I know, it'd be like saying al Qaeda was a product of the CIA. Oh wait...

Saying that it is a product of a group, doesn't mean the product was as intentionally meant to be designed as.
 
Ya, that doesn't count as anti-semitism.

Words actually do have meanings, you know.
 
Wait... that equates anti-Semitism?
Palestine is not a state under any logical definition of the word. Why is the new minority government in such a haste (the very same day PM Löfven took office) to recognize this non-state as a state other than animus toward Israel?
Saying that it is a product of a group, doesn't mean the product was as intentionally meant to be designed as.
Saying Mossad created IS(I[LS])? (in regex form) to "kill Muslims" is indeed antisemitic scaremongering. Note that this politician has a history of antisemitism and that Malmö is a hotbed of antiseminism, so it's hardly surprising they keep reelecting him.
 
Palestine is not a state under any logical definition of the word. Why is the new minority government in such a haste (the very same day PM Löfven took office) to recognize this non-state as a state other than animus toward Israel?
Why the dichotomy? It isn't as if they released a document saying Hamas is infallible.
Saying that it is a product of a group, doesn't mean the product was as intentionally meant to be designed as.
Saying Mossad created IS(I[LS])? (in regex form) to "kill Muslims" is indeed antisemitic scaremongering. Note that this politician has a history of antisemitism and that Malmö is a hotbed of antiseminism, so it's hardly surprising they keep reelecting him.
I wouldn't have a hard time thinking that Mossad has connections with ISIS, much like thinking the CIA could have been involved as well. Much like how the US helped form al Qaeda. These Intelligence groups get themselves involved in trying to manipulate the scenes and then they lose control of it all.
 
Ya, that doesn't count as anti-semitism.

Words actually do have meanings, you know.

And anti-Јеwish conspiracy theories qualify.

As does wanting to make a diplomatic snub against Australia by agreeing with North Korea's stance on this issue instead of Australia's in retaliation for poor seating for Swedish MPs at a dinner at the Australian embassy.

Without any evidence that this is the reason for the recognition beyond the mere fact of the recognition, however, it would be really silly to claim that this is why they did it.
 
The new lefty government of Sweden recently decided to recognize the "state" of Palestine, despite the fact that this "state" has neither defined borders (they are subject to negotiations which are currently stalled), nor a capital (they want Jerusalem which is the capital of Israel), nor any degree of sovereignty over most of the territory it claims.

All of which are true of Israel...

Israel's borders are curiously undefined, the internationally recognised capital is Tel Aviv despite Israel's attempts to claim Jerusalem, a city which they share with their neighbours, and it has no legal claim to land on which it's settlements are built.

You can hardly claim that Palestine's border with Israel is fluid and ill-defined, without saying the same about Israel's border with Palestine. It's the same border!

If they recognise Israel, why not recognise Palestine? What's the problem there?

But that is by far not the worst thing. A social democratic (i.e. the new ruling party) politician claims that IS is a product of Mossad.
The mind boggles.

Are they actually claiming Mossad is somehow responsible for the entire IS movement, or just that Mossad trained some of the members? Because the latter is hardly unusual - the claim could probably be made by several countries. Providing radicals with free training is one way intelligence agencies try and redirect them to their own ends.
 
Socialism is Judaism as applied science. Jerusalem is destined to be the capital of the global socialist super-state.
 
Wait, the guy who started a thread yelling about how halal Subway restaurants signal the end of Western civilization is now complaining about fearmongering?

Irony meter: over 9000
 
The new lefty government of Sweden recently decided to recognize the "state" of Palestine, despite the fact that this "state" has neither defined borders (they are subject to negotiations which are currently stalled),

Neither does Israel, by the same token.

nor a capital (they want Jerusalem which is the capital of Israel),

Jerusalem is claimed by Israel as its capital, but most countries do not recognise that claim, which is why you'll find almost all embassies in Tel Aviv. Even the US, one of Israel's closest allies, does not recognise its claim to Jerusalem as its capital and has its embassy in Tel Aviv.

nor any degree of sovereignty over most of the territory it claims.

That is true, but that has historically been the case for many countries. For example, the US recognised the Republic of China (i.e. Taiwan) as the sole legitimate government of all of China up until 1979, a full thirty 30s after its de facto sovereignity had been restricted to Taiwan.

But that is by far not the worst thing. A social democratic (i.e. the new ruling party) politician claims that IS is a product of Mossad.
The mind boggles.

That is indeed a weird conspiracy theory, but you failed to mention two things to put this in context:
A) he's a city council member, not a politician of national profile.
B) he's been called out for it by members of his own party.

If we compare this with the conspiracy theories put forward by right-wing politicians (some of them with much higher profile), it's still sad but fairly unremarkable.
 
Palestine waddles and quacks. It's a state. I have no problem with nations recognizing them. A vile government isn't no government.
 
Palestine is not a state under any logical definition of the word. Why is the new minority government in such a haste (the very same day PM Löfven took office) to recognize this non-state as a state other than animus toward Israel?

Amity towards Palestine?

The friend of your enemy need not be your enemy, you know.
 
The idea that opposition to Israel equates to antisemitism has no place in civil discourse, and any reasonable person can understand clearly why it's wrong.
 
The idea that opposition to Israel equates to antisemitism has no place in civil discourse, and any reasonable person can understand clearly why it's wrong.
Seems to be a growing trend. Pathological altruism, anti-semitism, compassionate conservative, political moderate Republican.
 
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