Texas Cop Nathanial Robinson Uses Stun Gun On Elderly Man Over Inspection Sticker

[ksen]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/14/texas-cop-stun-gun-76-year-old_n_6324804.html

A Texas cop is under investigation after using a stun gun on an elderly man he had stopped for an inspection sticker issue that the officer himself apparently didn't understand.

Dashcam video from the incident posted by Raw Story, above, shows officer Nathanial Robinson, 23, pull over Pete Vasquez, 76, at Adam's Auto Mart in Victoria, Texas, as "Under Ground Kings" by Drake blares from the cruiser's radio.

Vasquez gets out of the car, walks behind it and gestures toward the license plate and to the office of the dealer, where he works. He later told the Victoria Advocate newspaper that he was explaining that the dealer tags on the car make it exempt from inspection.

Victoria Police Chief Jeffrey "J.J." Craig confirmed to the paper that the car was exempt.

On the video, however, Robinson appears to try to snatch a piece of paper from Vasquez without success. Then, he grabs Vasquez's arm, twists it behind him and pushes him against the hood of the cruiser. After a brief scuffle, the cop reaches for both of Vasquez's arms and drags him the ground, out of camera range.

When the cop is next seen in frame, he's yelling and holding up a stun gun.

Police told the newspaper that Robinson used the device twice on Vasquez.

I can't wait to see how much dirt gets dug up on this old guy.

 

[dystopian]

I can't wait to see how much dirt gets dug up on this old guy.

He probably robbed a liquor store 5 minutes earlier. Plus he may have fought in some war back when wars didn't just involve button pressing so he was a trained killer who could kill with his bare hands and/or a hidden Scottish claymore; best not take any chances.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I can't wait to see how much dirt gets dug up on this old guy.

Oh don't me started on how the blatantly press will present him as a Gentle Geriatric.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

There is currently an active thread on gun control going on in this forum, with people trying to convince me of the worthiness and professionalism of the police.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/14/texas-cop-stun-gun-76-year-old_n_6324804.html

A Texas cop is under investigation after using a stun gun on an elderly man he had stopped for an inspection sticker issue that the officer himself apparently didn't understand.

Dashcam video from the incident posted by Raw Story, above, shows officer Nathanial Robinson, 23, pull over Pete Vasquez, 76, at Adam's Auto Mart in Victoria, Texas, as "Under Ground Kings" by Drake blares from the cruiser's radio.

Vasquez gets out of the car, walks behind it and gestures toward the license plate and to the office of the dealer, where he works. He later told the Victoria Advocate newspaper that he was explaining that the dealer tags on the car make it exempt from inspection.

Victoria Police Chief Jeffrey "J.J." Craig confirmed to the paper that the car was exempt.

On the video, however, Robinson appears to try to snatch a piece of paper from Vasquez without success. Then, he grabs Vasquez's arm, twists it behind him and pushes him against the hood of the cruiser. After a brief scuffle, the cop reaches for both of Vasquez's arms and drags him the ground, out of camera range.

When the cop is next seen in frame, he's yelling and holding up a stun gun.

Police told the newspaper that Robinson used the device twice on Vasquez.

I can't wait to see how much dirt gets dug up on this old guy.

Sounds like what tasers are designed for--dealing with non-compliant but non-violent people. If you feel the cop is out of line you don't resist at the side of the road!

 

[laughing dog]

Is he being investigated for misconduct or because he didn't use a firearm on the gentleman?

 

[RavenSky]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/14/texas-cop-stun-gun-76-year-old_n_6324804.html

A Texas cop is under investigation after using a stun gun on an elderly man he had stopped for an inspection sticker issue that the officer himself apparently didn't understand.

Dashcam video from the incident posted by Raw Story, above, shows officer Nathanial Robinson, 23, pull over Pete Vasquez, 76, at Adam's Auto Mart in Victoria, Texas, as "Under Ground Kings" by Drake blares from the cruiser's radio.

Vasquez gets out of the car, walks behind it and gestures toward the license plate and to the office of the dealer, where he works. He later told the Victoria Advocate newspaper that he was explaining that the dealer tags on the car make it exempt from inspection.

Victoria Police Chief Jeffrey "J.J." Craig confirmed to the paper that the car was exempt.

On the video, however, Robinson appears to try to snatch a piece of paper from Vasquez without success. Then, he grabs Vasquez's arm, twists it behind him and pushes him against the hood of the cruiser. After a brief scuffle, the cop reaches for both of Vasquez's arms and drags him the ground, out of camera range.

When the cop is next seen in frame, he's yelling and holding up a stun gun.

Police told the newspaper that Robinson used the device twice on Vasquez.

I can't wait to see how much dirt gets dug up on this old guy.

He's clearly a thug.

 

[bilby]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/14/texas-cop-stun-gun-76-year-old_n_6324804.html



I can't wait to see how much dirt gets dug up on this old guy.

Sounds like what tasers are designed for--dealing with non-compliant but non-violent people. If you feel the cop is out of line you don't resist at the side of the road!

Damn right. Resisting the demands of a policeman is not compatible with a free society. Failure to obey without question and immediately is not to be tolerated under any circumstances. If you let people get away without being violently assaulted when they attempt to tell the cops when they are making a mistake, then our freedom will be eroded, and it will end up worse than Stalin's Russia.

Absolute compliance with any and all instructions issued by the police, immediately and without question at all times, is a small price to pay for freedom.

 

[Arctish]

Sounds like what tasers are designed for--dealing with non-compliant but non-violent people. If you feel the cop is out of line you don't resist at the side of the road!

Damn right. Resisting the demands of a policeman is not compatible with a free society. Failure to obey without question and immediately is not to be tolerated under any circumstances. If you let people get away without being violently assaulted when they attempt to tell the cops when they are making a mistake, then our freedom will be eroded, and it will end up worse than Stalin's Russia.

Absolute compliance with any and all instructions issued by the police, immediately and without question at all times, is a small price to pay for freedom.

Also, citizens should know in advance what requests the cops will make when they arrive on-scene, and be prepared to comply instantly. Ignorance of the pending request is no excuse for delay, and will be considered non-compliance.

 

[Toni]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/14/texas-cop-stun-gun-76-year-old_n_6324804.html



I can't wait to see how much dirt gets dug up on this old guy.

Sounds like what tasers are designed for--dealing with non-compliant but non-violent people. If you feel the cop is out of line you don't resist at the side of the road!

How was this man non-compliant?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Sounds like what tasers are designed for--dealing with non-compliant but non-violent people. If you feel the cop is out of line you don't resist at the side of the road!

Damn right. Resisting the demands of a policeman is not compatible with a free society. Failure to obey without question and immediately is not to be tolerated under any circumstances. If you let people get away without being violently assaulted when they attempt to tell the cops when they are making a mistake, then our freedom will be eroded, and it will end up worse than Stalin's Russia.

Absolute compliance with any and all instructions issued by the police, immediately and without question at all times, is a small price to pay for freedom.

In most states you are expected to resolve such issues in the courtroom, not at the point of contact.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Sounds like what tasers are designed for--dealing with non-compliant but non-violent people. If you feel the cop is out of line you don't resist at the side of the road!

How was this man non-compliant?

On the video, however, Robinson appears to try to snatch a piece of paper from Vasquez without success. Then, he grabs Vasquez's arm, twists it behind him and pushes him against the hood of the cruiser. After a brief scuffle, the cop reaches for both of Vasquez's arms and drags him the ground, out of camera range.

We obviously don't have the whole story but the guy apparently wasn't handing over a piece of paper. I can't think of anything they would think was relevant that shouldn't be handed to the cop.

 

[bilby]

How was this man non-compliant?

On the video, however, Robinson appears to try to snatch a piece of paper from Vasquez without success. Then, he grabs Vasquez's arm, twists it behind him and pushes him against the hood of the cruiser. After a brief scuffle, the cop reaches for both of Vasquez's arms and drags him the ground, out of camera range.

We obviously don't have the whole story but the guy apparently wasn't handing over a piece of paper. I can't think of anything they would think was relevant that shouldn't be handed to the cop.

Well all I can say is it's a good thing you don't live in a place with constitutional protection of personal privacy from warrantless searches by police.

Oh, wait.

Shit.

 

[barbos]

Could someone explain inspection sticker thing?

 

[dystopian]

Sounds like what tasers are designed for--dealing with non-compliant but non-violent people. If you feel the cop is out of line you don't resist at the side of the road!

How was this man non-compliant?

He was probably told to get on the ground, which he refused because he's in his seventies and his knees don't bend anymore, or something. Obviously he was an imminent threat.

We obviously don't have the whole story but the guy apparently wasn't handing over a piece of paper. I can't think of anything they would think was relevant that shouldn't be handed to the cop.

Jesus christ, someone shoot the non-compliant bastard!

 

[Angry Floof]

Could someone explain inspection sticker thing?

In most states in the US, cars have to bear a sticker on the windshield indicating that the car has undergone a safety inspection.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_inspection#United_States

 

[Arctish]

How was this man non-compliant?

On the video, however, Robinson appears to try to snatch a piece of paper from Vasquez without success. Then, he grabs Vasquez's arm, twists it behind him and pushes him against the hood of the cruiser. After a brief scuffle, the cop reaches for both of Vasquez's arms and drags him the ground, out of camera range.

We obviously don't have the whole story but the guy apparently wasn't handing over a piece of paper. I can't think of anything they would think was relevant that shouldn't be handed to the cop.

So you're saying the old guy was thrown to the ground and tazed because he didn't present his papers for inspection in the appropriate manner? And you're okay with this?

 

[TV and credit cards]

Sounds like what tasers are designed for--dealing with non-compliant but non-violent people. If you feel the cop is out of line you don't resist at the side of the road!

Depends on the severity of the crime, whether there is a threat to the cop, if the suspect is resisting arrest, or is trying to escape. But if the cop has not made an attempt to handcuff the suspect or he only poses a slight risk, it is excessive force.

 

[RavenSky]

Sounds like what tasers are designed for--dealing with non-compliant but non-violent people. If you feel the cop is out of line you don't resist at the side of the road!

Damn right. Resisting the demands of a policeman is not compatible with a free society. Failure to obey without question and immediately is not to be tolerated under any circumstances. If you let people get away without being violently assaulted when they attempt to tell the cops when they are making a mistake, then our freedom will be eroded, and it will end up worse than Stalin's Russia.

Absolute compliance with any and all instructions issued by the police, immediately and without question at all times, is a small price to pay for freedom.

Crjq

I read Loren's comment and, in the context of the OP, could not believe he was being serious.

 

[RavenSky]

Damn right. Resisting the demands of a policeman is not compatible with a free society. Failure to obey without question and immediately is not to be tolerated under any circumstances. If you let people get away without being violently assaulted when they attempt to tell the cops when they are making a mistake, then our freedom will be eroded, and it will end up worse than Stalin's Russia.

Absolute compliance with any and all instructions issued by the police, immediately and without question at all times, is a small price to pay for freedom.

In most states you are expected to resolve such issues in the courtroom, not at the point of contact.

That applies to the cop too!

This was about an allegedly expired inspection sticker. Issue the fucking ticket and leave. Do not taze a 76-year old man who was not doing anything whatsoever wrong.

For fuck's sake, Loren... is there no police officer abuse that you won't defend?