The Cold Blooded Murder Of Renee Good

[blastula]

 

[ZiprHead]

Here is a 5-minute video showing some of the crimes ICE has committed in Minnesota.

I am glad I don't look/sound mexican.

You'd probably look better as a Mexican because right now you look/sound like a genocidal maniac.

 

[ZiprHead]

So according to this, Good and her wife were protesting a half city block away from the ICE agent's activities. So I was correct when I said ICE rolled up on them and they did not interfere in the ICE operation at all.

 

[Elixir]

From Trump's 2025 Inauguration to December, there have been 622,000 deported, 1,900,000 self-deportations and at least 65,735 migrants currently in ICE detention.

@Derec -- What's your immediate emotional response when you read facts like the above?

Had democratic politicians allowed immigration laws to be properly enforced instead of protecting illegals, we would not be here.

“We”?? You and ICE are an item?
Your slip is showing, ma’am.
Everything is Dems’ fault so fuck ‘em if “we” decide to murder them, disappear them or whatever. All for the public good! Ask any Trumpsucker, and they’ll agree.

Could the 1st-person pronoun have been deployed for even more personal reasons?

The ambiguity in "we would not be here" is interesting. There is a literal meaning and a more figurative meaning. I'm not sure what my initial reading would have been. (I first read the Derec quote inside Elixir's response.)

"We"
Literal: "We" == "I (Derec) and one or more others (ICE agents?)"
Figurative: "We" == "The country"

"Here"
Literal: "Here" == "Minnesota"
Figurative: "Here" == "The situation where fascist ICE thugs are committing crimes."

I strongly believe that Derec intended the figurative meaning (perhaps with "noble warriors" substituted for "fascist thugs" and "cleansings" subbing for "crimes") but find it interesting that there is a literal meaning in conformance with Derec's politics. Freudian slip on his part? Probably not, but I don't think we can rule it out.

I think the ambiguity was unconscious, like the racism of people who “have black friends” but have never been at a black family’s dinner table or invited any black person to their own.
Lack of self awareness is an attractor to the likes of Trump, whose inability to experience embarrassment is legend.

 

[Colonel Sanders]

A page out of the GOP partisan playbook. What utter crapola.

It's not partisan to acknowledge that both sides contributed to the mess we find ourselves in.

There are federal troops in our cities, which is killing people and causing tension to skyrocket. Arguing that "both sides" are responsible for what is inarguably an authoritarian policy doesn't do the word "absurd" justice. This is a violent, frightening, abusive exercise of power intended to cause unrest in order to escalate things so that more oppressive policies can be brought to bear.

The Dems are undoubtedly incompetent and they are severely out of touch with most Americans, but their intentions are not to take away rights and terrify people.

One side is arguing that officers have absolute immunity (they don't), and are excusing their actions no matter what they do, the other side isn't. Actually this is all on the law and order crowd who believe the law and order "enforcers" can do whatever the fuck they want.

It's the same crowd that also says that if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.

I'd say it's worth noting the history of hypocrisy on their part with respect to that sentiment, but it's been noted ad nauseam for over two decades now.

 

[Colonel Sanders]

Here is a 5-minute video showing some of the crimes ICE has committed in Minnesota.

I am glad I don't look/sound mexican.

White middle-class women apparently aren't safe either, so be glad you're not anyone near ICE.

 

[barbos]

Here is a 5-minute video showing some of the crimes ICE has committed in Minnesota.

I am glad I don't look/sound mexican.

White middle-class women apparently aren't safe either, so be glad you're not anyone near ICE.

And Trump has not sent ICE to Siberia yet.

 

[WAB]

Here is a 5-minute video showing some of the crimes ICE has committed in Minnesota.

I am glad I don't look/sound mexican.

White middle-class women apparently aren't safe either, so be glad you're not anyone near ICE.

And Trump has not sent ICE to Siberia yet.

Just wait!

 

[Elixir]

Why on Earth not? It's been pretty obvious that the Trump "administration" are a bunch of bullies, grifters and thieves, and we have plenty of historical precedent for what happens when such people get hold of a nation state.

Yeah, all that. I still didn’t expect Stephen Miller to be such an effective President. His ability to bully, grift, lie, cheat and steal is truly impressive.

 

[KCFlyer]

I thought ICE officers had body cams. Why did this one have to use his cell phone? If he had a body cam, we could all see exactly what he was facing, which was the left front side of the car. And ICE training needs to get back to the basics for officers safety...don't walk in front of a car.

 

[crazyfingers]

I thought ICE officers had body cams. Why did this one have to use his cell phone? If he had a body cam, we could all see exactly what he was facing, which was the left front side of the car. And ICE training needs to get back to the basics for officers safety...don't walk in front of a car.

They generally don't. I'm sure that DHS doesn't want them to. They were ordered to wear them in Portland OR by the judge there. But that order doesn't apply to MN.

Of course it's the same asshole in charge. Gregory Bovino

 

[KCFlyer]

I thought ICE officers had body cams. Why did this one have to use his cell phone? If he had a body cam, we could all see exactly what he was facing, which was the left front side of the car. And ICE training needs to get back to the basics for officers safety...don't walk in front of a car.

They generally don't. I'm sure that DHS doesn't want them to. They were ordered to wear them in Portland OR by the judge there. But that order doesn't apply to MN.

Of course it's the same asshole in charge. Gregory Bovino

Then ICE should make them mandatory. Holding a cell phone in one hand while shooting at a person should never be allowed. This is why. But I bet they are breathing a sigh of relief that the cop wasn't wearing one when he was "hit".

 

[crazyfingers]

I thought ICE officers had body cams. Why did this one have to use his cell phone? If he had a body cam, we could all see exactly what he was facing, which was the left front side of the car. And ICE training needs to get back to the basics for officers safety...don't walk in front of a car.

They generally don't. I'm sure that DHS doesn't want them to. They were ordered to wear them in Portland OR by the judge there. But that order doesn't apply to MN.

Of course it's the same asshole in charge. Gregory Bovino

Then ICE should make them mandatory. Holding a cell phone in one hand while shooting at a person should never be allowed. This is why. But I bet they are breathing a sigh of relief that the cop wasn't wearing one when he was "hit".

Absolutely they should all be wearing them. But Noem etc don't want them so judges need to force them, if they can.

 

[Tigers!]

But what was happneing 10secs before the videoes we see?

Do you want to speculate what could have happened 10 seconds before the video that could justify Good's murder.

That is what I am asking. We just do not know.
Did she/they yell abuse at the ICE (doubt their parentage etc.).
Speed in?
I do not know

I can't believe what you are saying.

You do realise that, even in the police-gun happy US, none of those actions are punishable by summary execution in the street?

Yep. That is the issue. She probably violated the law by obstructing ICE and not following their commands to get out of the SUV. <<BTW: FUCK ICE>>. But does anyone say that she deserved to get shot in the face over this? It's also stunning that anyone could say that she was trying to run over him. Are we all seeing the same video? Clearly, she turned the wheels in the opposite direction from him, trying to drive away. How can anyone disagree with this???

But Harry, the video is 10 seconds too short!

I see Bastula posted the 10 sec (and more) in post no. 261.
I still do not understand why she was shot and killed. There was no justification for it.

 

[laughing dog]

I thought ICE officers had body cams. Why did this one have to use his cell phone? If he had a body cam, we could all see exactly what he was facing, which was the left front side of the car. And ICE training needs to get back to the basics for officers safety...don't walk in front of a car.

They generally don't. I'm sure that DHS doesn't want them to. They were ordered to wear them in Portland OR by the judge there. But that order doesn't apply to MN.

Of course it's the same asshole in charge. Gregory Bovino

Then ICE should make them mandatory. Holding a cell phone in one hand while shooting at a person should never be allowed. This is why. But I bet they are breathing a sigh of relief that the cop wasn't wearing one when he was "hit".

Not only are body cams DHS policy, a federal judge ordered them to wear and use them. What a surprise, the federal hov’t ignoring its policy and a judge’s order!

 

[crazyfingers]

I thought ICE officers had body cams. Why did this one have to use his cell phone? If he had a body cam, we could all see exactly what he was facing, which was the left front side of the car. And ICE training needs to get back to the basics for officers safety...don't walk in front of a car.

They generally don't. I'm sure that DHS doesn't want them to. They were ordered to wear them in Portland OR by the judge there. But that order doesn't apply to MN.

Of course it's the same asshole in charge. Gregory Bovino

Then ICE should make them mandatory. Holding a cell phone in one hand while shooting at a person should never be allowed. This is why. But I bet they are breathing a sigh of relief that the cop wasn't wearing one when he was "hit".

Not only are body cams DHS policy, a federal judge ordered them to wear and use them. What a surprise, the federal hov’t ignoring its policy and a judge’s order!

The district court judge who ordered them to use body cams was for the Portand, OR area. That ruling doesn't apply to MN. Unless you know of a different judges ruling for MN.

I'm not surprised at all that they are ignoring policy. They ignore constitutional rights. What's policy next to that.

 

[unapologetic]

Holding a cell phone in one hand while shooting at a person should never be allowed.

Sure, holding the phone in both hands will give you steader vids. But how will you aim the gun? with your teeth?

 

[unapologetic]

ICE GOONS BOOTED OUT OF SHOP

 

[barbos]

ICE GOONS BOOTED OUT OF SHOP

Is this AI? The commentator is talking about AI. an ICE agent acts weird in the end.

 

[laughing dog]

I thought ICE officers had body cams. Why did this one have to use his cell phone? If he had a body cam, we could all see exactly what he was facing, which was the left front side of the car. And ICE training needs to get back to the basics for officers safety...don't walk in front of a car.

They generally don't. I'm sure that DHS doesn't want them to. They were ordered to wear them in Portland OR by the judge there. But that order doesn't apply to MN.

Of course it's the same asshole in charge. Gregory Bovino

Then ICE should make them mandatory. Holding a cell phone in one hand while shooting at a person should never be allowed. This is why. But I bet they are breathing a sigh of relief that the cop wasn't wearing one when he was "hit".

Not only are body cams DHS policy, a federal judge ordered them to wear and use them. What a surprise, the federal hov’t ignoring its policy and a judge’s order!

The district court judge who ordered them to use body cams was for the Portand, OR area. That ruling doesn't apply to MN. Unless you know of a different judges ruling for MN.

Also ordered in Chicago.

I'm not surprised at all that they are ignoring policy. They ignore constitutional rights. What's policy next to that.

That was my unspoken point!