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barbos said:
Shadowy Man said:
Back up your statement with facts and logical argument.
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Democrat Mass Media goons were saying openly "Drop out and your problems go away"
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Not quite the way you described it. Here is what was actually said from your link.

Maddow began by telling O’Donnell, "You have to wonder if the Justice Department is considering whether there is some political solution to this criminal problem. Whether part of the issue here is not just that Trump has committed crimes, but that Trump has committed crimes and plans on being back in the White House."

She then clarified what she meant, saying, "Do they consider as part of a potential plea offer, something that would proscribe him… proscribe him from running for office again? I don’t know."
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barbos said:
She did say what I said she said. And she was not alone, other democratic "celebrities" said/suggested the same.
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I agree she said that. But you then went on to say that the DOJ did indeed offer a plea deal, which Trump refused. Any evidence for that one?
 
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Thread re-opened. Go read the TOU. Then behave.
 
barbos said:
She did say that, I saw the video.
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You heard the words and missed the meaning.
Could happen to me if I tried understanding Russians speaking colloquial Russian.
 
Has Barbos taken advantage of the recent intermission not to confront the fact that he wrote precisely what he now denies writing? :unsure:

Well, that’s OK. He can go back to his apologetics for the Nazi in the Kremlin, I suppose.
 
Saw this on Facebook.

"Stormy Daniels just set a new world record for pleasuring the most people in a single day."
 
www.businessinsider.com

Marjorie Taylor Greene wants to 'defund' the entire state of New York over the Trump verdict

"You know what? Screw New York," Greene said, adding that all federal funding for the state should be blocked by Congress.
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Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene wants to cut off all federal funding to the US's fourth-most-populous state.

The Georgia Republican said she would push House Speaker Mike Johnson to "defund" the state of New York after former President Donald Trump was convicted Thursday of 34 felony charges related to "hush money" payments he made to the porn star Stormy Daniels ahead of the 2016 election.
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"I think the American people have turned a corner after they watched that conviction come down in New York, to the point where it's like, you know what? Screw New York," Greene said. "New York doesn't deserve a damn penny. We shouldn't fund them one single dime."
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Which side wants to weaponize the government again?
 
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barbos said:
Shadowy Man said:
Back up your statement with facts and logical argument.
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Democrat Mass Media goons were saying openly "Drop out and your problems go away"
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Not quite the way you described it. Here is what was actually said from your link.

Maddow began by telling O’Donnell, "You have to wonder if the Justice Department is considering whether there is some political solution to this criminal problem. Whether part of the issue here is not just that Trump has committed crimes, but that Trump has committed crimes and plans on being back in the White House."

She then clarified what she meant, saying, "Do they consider as part of a potential plea offer, something that would proscribe him… proscribe him from running for office again? I don’t know."
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Your spin was noted [removed]
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This is what happened to Spiro Agnew. Caught red handed taking bribes, he was let off easy for quitting his office as Vice president and signing a decree agreeing to never being involved in politics again. He paid ten thousand dollars in fines and plead Nolo Contendre. This kept Agnew out of prison.
 
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Trump supporters try to dox jurors and post violent threats after his conviction

On social media and web forums, users called for jurors, judges and prosecutors to be killed after the former president was found guilty on 34 felony counts.
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WASHINGTON — The 34 felony guilty verdicts returned against former President Donald Trump on Thursday spurred a wave of violent rhetoric aimed at the prosecutors who secured his conviction, the judge who oversaw the case and the ordinary jurors who unanimously agreed there was no reasonable doubt that the presumptive Republican presidential nominee falsified business records related to hush money payments to a porn star to benefit his 2016 campaign.

Advance Democracy, a nonprofit that conducts public interest research, said there has been a high volume of social media posts containing violent rhetoric targeting New York Judge Juan Merchan and Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, including a post with Bragg’s purported home address. The group also found posts of the purported addresses of jurors on a fringe internet message board known for pro-Trump content and harassing and violent posts, although it is unclear if any actual jurors had been correctly identified.

The posts, which have been reviewed by NBC News, appear on many of the same websites used by Trump supporters to organize for violence ahead of the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol. These forums were hotbeds of threats inspired by Trump’s lies about the 2020 election, which he lost, and that the voting system was “rigged” against him. They now feature new threats echoing Trump’s rhetoric and false claims about the hush money trial, including that the judicial system is now “rigged” against him.

“Dox the Jurors. Dox them now,” one user wrote after Trump’s conviction on a website formerly known as “The Donald,” which was popular among participants in the Capitol attack. (That post appears to have been quickly removed by moderators.)
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GOP senators warn judge against sentencing Donald Trump to prison
Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), a senior member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said it would be a “further abuse of power” to incarcerate Trump or sentence him to home confinement.

“I’m very troubled by what I see in the way the courts have been weaponized,” he said. “It used to be there were some institutions in America, namely the FBI, the Department of Justice and the courts, which were regarded as out of bounds for overt partisan politics, but unfortunately that’s changed, and not for the better.”

Republican senators warn any sentence that would impact Trump’s mobility or ability to communicate with voters could seriously undermine voters’ confidence in the fairness of the 2024 election.

Legal experts predict Merchan won’t sentence Trump to prison right before the convention, but some GOP lawmakers fear that scenario is possible given what they’ve seen of the prosecution and trial so far.

Sen. Ted Budd (R-N.C.) said it would be “foolish” for the judge to sentence Trump to jail or House arrest.
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So being punished for some crime is election interference?
 
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