The Marjorie Taylor Greene case

[RVonse]

In any case, MTG will be a lesson for all the other cultists. They must all agree 100% with Trump or lose their careers. If Trump shows forgiveness, then all the other Republicans will think they can sometimes disagree and get away with it, too.

Isn't that the way politics has always worked? Either lick the balls of your POTUS and party or the party will try to ruin you?

No, it isn’t.

Just look at how the republican party and Trump treats Rand Paul over the deficit for example. Paul gets more flack from Trump than MTG even on her worst day.

And for the people on this thread who think MTG suddenly turned a new leaf and wants to join the other side. Its not MTG or MAGA who has changed her mind about the Epstein files.....it was the Trump administration. How can a reasonable person fault her actions when she is simply representing her base of constituents? Are not her actions a reasonable expectation for a typical US politician?

You’re misreading the responses. MTG is finally acting rationally and perhaps waking up to the fact she vigorously supported a monster.

How has she changed her views???

I can see how Trump changed his stance later not releasing Epstein documents. And I can see how Democrats and liberals change their tune now that they see a conflict between her and Trump. But that conflict has more to do with Trump's change in stance. The liberals only care about their pleasure seeing a republican disagreement. That part is obvious and predictable. But MTG is not adopting anything different or supporting anything she always hasn't as far I can see.

 

[Jarhyn]

The liberals only care about their pleasure seeing a republican disagreement

What is it with you and projecting pleasure on others over politics.

More, we are just disgusted by the whole lot of it. We want it to be out of our halls of government and out of our laws and our of our national financial institutions.

We want all of those pedophiles and screeching christo-nazis out of office, and we don't believe for a second that she has really changed, prior to substantive shifts in her actions.

Really, we want to see everyone who went to or procured girls for or otherwise supported Epstein's operation on that island to be put in a place where society can forget about them and they cannot touch society until they are dead.

I would also want to see every piece of legislation regarding minors on which ANY of those people worked to be reviewed and questioned as to whether it was placed there to give leeway to offenders in some way.

I would want to see the health and human development classes include non-judgemental discussions about the conditions people can find among themselves, and to have discussions about consent, the right to say no, and discussions about the dark situations adults will try to use to make kids comply.

Why is there no education about "never follow someone to a secondary location"?!?

But these are all apparently "liberal" things.

If Republicans disagreements mean that we get these "liberal" things, sure, Republican disagreements! Hooray! Whatever. But really I just want to see all of these open child beauty pageant to sex slave pipelines closed. And everyone among the party that fights tooth and nail against those laws "disagreeing" creates the opening to make that happen, sometimes.

I mean, revelations are coming out about Trump's beauty pageant and arrangements with procurers from these emails already released. We know for a fact that child beauty pageants have connections to sex trafficking operations, and in particular, TRUMP'S pageants.

I want to see justice and I am glad that the Republicans outside of Trump's pedo circle is making noise about it.

But I'm thrilled because it might mean that an unrepentant pedophile and a bunch of pedophile enablers and probably a good number of ongoing pedophile operations all collapse, with a number of very powerful and influential people going down with it, and maybe we finally see an end to putting children's bodies on display for creepy old people.

My biggest worry is that this COULD still end up turning into a witch trial situation, arranged largely by people who are infamous for DARVO and "helping" in the most intensely unhelpful way ever.

 

[ZiprHead]

Greene: I was called a traitor by a man that I fought for six years for. And I gave him my loyalty for free. I won my first election without his endorsement, beating eight men in a primary, and I've never owed him anything. But I fought for him for the policies and for America first. And he called me a traitor for standing with these women and refusing to take my name off the discharge petition. Let me tell you what a traitor is. A traitor is a is an American that serves foreign countries and themselves. A patriot is an American that serves the United States of Americans and Americans like the women standing behind me.

 

[laughing dog]

In any case, MTG will be a lesson for all the other cultists. They must all agree 100% with Trump or lose their careers. If Trump shows forgiveness, then all the other Republicans will think they can sometimes disagree and get away with it, too.

Isn't that the way politics has always worked? Either lick the balls of your POTUS and party or the party will try to ruin you?

No, it isn’t.

Just look at how the republican party and Trump treats Rand Paul over the deficit for example. Paul gets more flack from Trump than MTG even on her worst day.

And for the people on this thread who think MTG suddenly turned a new leaf and wants to join the other side. Its not MTG or MAGA who has changed her mind about the Epstein files.....it was the Trump administration. How can a reasonable person fault her actions when she is simply representing her base of constituents? Are not her actions a reasonable expectation for a typical US politician?

You’re misreading the responses. MTG is finally acting rationally and perhaps waking up to the fact she vigorously supported a monster.

How has she changed her views???

I can see how Trump changed his stance later not releasing Epstein documents. And I can see how Democrats and liberals change their tune now that they see a conflict between her and Trump. But that conflict has more to do with Trump's change in stance. The liberals only care about their pleasure seeing a republican disagreement. That part is obvious and predictable. But MTG is not adopting anything different or supporting anything she always hasn't as far I can see.

We seem to inhabit completely different universes. The Democrats and liberals haven’t changed their tune. MTG claims to have left behind her vituperative nonsense. She didn’t support his refusal to release the documents.

 

[Elixir]

In any case, MTG will be a lesson for all the other cultists. They must all agree 100% with Trump or lose their careers. If Trump shows forgiveness, then all the other Republicans will think they can sometimes disagree and get away with it, too.

Isn't that the way politics has always worked? Either lick the balls of your POTUS and party or the party will try to ruin you?

No, it isn’t.

Just look at how the republican party and Trump treats Rand Paul over the deficit for example. Paul gets more flack from Trump than MTG even on her worst day.

And for the people on this thread who think MTG suddenly turned a new leaf and wants to join the other side. Its not MTG or MAGA who has changed her mind about the Epstein files.....it was the Trump administration. How can a reasonable person fault her actions when she is simply representing her base of constituents? Are not her actions a reasonable expectation for a typical US politician?

You’re misreading the responses. MTG is finally acting rationally and perhaps waking up to the fact she vigorously supported a monster.

How has she changed her views???

I can see how Trump changed his stance later not releasing Epstein documents. And I can see how Democrats and liberals change their tune now that they see a conflict between her and Trump. But that conflict has more to do with Trump's change in stance. The liberals only care about their pleasure seeing a republican disagreement. That part is obvious and predictable. But MTG is not adopting anything different or supporting anything she always hasn't as far I can see.

We seem to inhabit completely different universes. The Democrats and liberals haven’t changed their tune. MTG claims to have left behind her vituperative nonsense. She didn’t support his refusal to release the documents.

It’s laughable to think empty gee only just this week realizes that Trump is a creep. She has cozied up to him in the past. IMHO she did so in complete awareness that he’s a creep, but she too is a creep, an opportunistic creep.

 

[RVonse]

But I'm thrilled because it might mean that an unrepentant pedophile and a bunch of pedophile enablers and probably a good number of ongoing pedophile operations all collapse, with a number of very powerful and influential people going down with it, and maybe we finally see an end to putting children's bodies on display for creepy old people.

I don't at all disagree with you here.

But the elephant in the room (for me at least) is this. Epstein’s visitors were all celebrities or obscenely rich. They really didn’t need Epstein’s services for underage sex or otherwise. Have you ever heard of a billionaire or a rock star not getting underage groupie sex just from normal events of life? What did they need from Epstein that their power and status already did not give them? This is what still does not make sense to me at all.

More to the point is this. Was Epstein really running a blackmail operation for Israel or not? This is the important question that so far cannot get one breath of air, because of the official narrative about Epstein selling underaged sex.

But if sex is what this takes for a close look at the files I still look forward to seeing these files for the transparency.

 

[southernhybrid]

But I'm thrilled because it might mean that an unrepentant pedophile and a bunch of pedophile enablers and probably a good number of ongoing pedophile operations all collapse, with a number of very powerful and influential people going down with it, and maybe we finally see an end to putting children's bodies on display for creepy old people.

I don't at all disagree with you here.

But the elephant in the room (for me at least) is this. Epstein’s visitors were all celebrities or obscenely rich. They really didn’t need Epstein’s services for underage sex or otherwise. Have you ever heard of a billionaire or a rock star not getting underage groupie sex just from normal events of life? What did they need from Epstein that their power and status already did not give them? This is what still does not make sense to me at all.

More to the point is this. Was Epstein really running a blackmail operation for Israel or not? This is the important question that so far cannot get one breath of air, because of the official narrative about Epstein selling underaged sex.

But if sex is what this takes for a close look at the files I still look forward to seeing these files for the transparency.

I seriously doubt that billionaires like Warren Buffet or George Soros engaged in sex with under age girls, to name two who seem to have pretty high morals. And, when it comes to celebrities, I'm sure there are many who have been loyal to their wives. George Benson always comes to mind, and he's one of my favorite musical artists. He's been married to the same woman for over 40 or so years and I've never read anything that made him sound sleazy. I'm sure there are plenty of others. Sure, it's common for some celebrities, politicians and ultra wealthy men to be sleaze bags, but must you generalize about all of them based on the worst? Men who are take advantage of under aged girls come from all areas of society and some very wealthy men are generous and do not take advantage of innocent young girls or women.

Okay, back to MTG. We don't know for sure if she's seriously changed or not, but at least she's been right about quite a few things lately and unlike most Republicans, she has the courage to stand up to Trump, so I will give her credit for that, at least for now. I think she should become an independent since she's starting to act like one.

Let me add that I don't know of any Democrats who want the Republicans to get in a fight. Most of us would like to see the two parties act together, make compromises and call out their leader when he does or supports something illegal or dangerous. The sad thing is that almost all of the current Republicans in Congress simply bow to Trump, regardless if they know he's a danger to democracy. I don't agree with most of the policies that someone like Liz Cheney supports, but I give her credit for standing up to Trump, even though it meant that she lost her seat in Congress. Compromise is what works in life, regardless if we're talking about government, family or the work place or friendships. Compromise is the only way to make any progress because we can't always get what we want.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

But the elephant in the room (for me at least) is this. Epstein’s visitors were all celebrities or obscenely rich. They really didn’t need Epstein’s services for underage sex or otherwise. Have you ever heard of a billionaire or a rock star not getting underage groupie sex just from normal events of life? What did they need from Epstein that their power and status already did not give them? This is what still does not make sense to me at all.

You are overestimating his connections. So, this is absolutely true for Trump and also for Mohammed bin Salman. Those two characters can absolutely get young girls or could. Epstein and Trump (and also Jean Luc Brunel) would own young girl modeling companies and calendar girl companies and be judges in panels. This allowed them all access to naked young girls and allowed them opportunity to corrupt them or at least try to. Mohammed bin Salman's situation is different because he didn't need to own companies to do things, so he is an outlier. As to all the other characters, Prince Andrew, for example, he'd be very closely watched in his own country and so going to Epstein Island or somewhere in the US protected by Trump or Epstein would allow him to party down with young girls. As for many other people, some were people in academia who might have crushes on students, which is different, but they also did not have any opportunities to buy sex with young girls under protection on Epstein Island without Epstein's help. Many others were these kinds of low-level politicians, lawyers, economists, businessmen, they couldn't necessarily get what they wanted without high legal risk and ruin. Epstein was offering special parties with some semblance of security and of course on his private island tons of privacy and considerably less legal risk. Compared to Trump, Trump didn't have his own island but had his own buildings and privacy with the girls many times who made many charges against him. Trump and Epstein sometimes even gawked at the girls together when they partied and probably chose who would belong to whom. So when Epstein said he gave Lauren Petrella to Trump, it probably meant he let him call dibs. This was under Trump's watch--his building--not the island. In any case, many of the people were not as powerful and connected directly to a slew of young models like Trump and Epstein were.

 

[Jarhyn]

Let me add that I don't know of any Democrats who want the Republicans to get in a fight.

I do. Or rather I want to do something specific.

Imagine for a moment there is a three part treatment to a particular bacterial infection.

The infection is not distinguishable until it is provoked to a certain level of infection.

Once this level has been achieved, it is injected with something that, because of the density of the infection, it spreads quickly as a "benign" mutation of the infection, but...

This mutation creates a surface protein that causes it to become vulnerable to antibiotics.

In some respects, we cannot tell the difference between a corrupt and complicit/pedophile Republican until battle lines are drawn and a fight is provoked. Then, once we see people taking sides, THEN we can actually do something about them.

In some respects, we have to draw them out to expose themselves and that only happens when a fight is to be joined.

 

[ZiprHead]

MTG has just announced she is leaving congress. More details to come.

 

[ideologyhunter]

I heard that too. Is Marge finally gonna get the surgery and transition into a woman?

 

[crazyfingers]

It's on CNN. I think flame-out is the best term.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/21/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-resign-in-january

It links to this that I can't read because I deleted my Twitter account'

 

[ZiprHead]

Can we say the leopards ate her face?

 

[crazyfingers]

Can we say the leopards ate her face?

Or lions or tigers or, best of all Hyenas.

 

[Toni]

But I'm thrilled because it might mean that an unrepentant pedophile and a bunch of pedophile enablers and probably a good number of ongoing pedophile operations all collapse, with a number of very powerful and influential people going down with it, and maybe we finally see an end to putting children's bodies on display for creepy old people.

I don't at all disagree with you here.

But the elephant in the room (for me at least) is this. Epstein’s visitors were all celebrities or obscenely rich. They really didn’t need Epstein’s services for underage sex or otherwise. Have you ever heard of a billionaire or a rock star not getting underage groupie sex just from normal events of life? What did they need from Epstein that their power and status already did not give them? This is what still does not make sense to me at all.

More to the point is this. Was Epstein really running a blackmail operation for Israel or not? This is the important question that so far cannot get one breath of air, because of the official narrative about Epstein selling underaged sex.

But if sex is what this takes for a close look at the files I still look forward to seeing these files for the transparency.

What they needed from Epstein: Permission. Opportunity. Camaraderie. What fun is it to do things obscenely wealthy perverts like to do unless they have buddies to do it with and share and brag? Plus: when people do bad things with other people who do bad things, they feel validated. It’s just a stupid rule not to fuck 13 year olds. If everyone was as rich as us, they’d do it, too.

Plus: What fun is to do something really naughty unless you have someone you can share it with?

 

[Toni]

Can we say the leopards ate her face?

Or lions or tigers or, best of all Hyenas.

Hey, say what you will re: MTG. Trump is so grotesquely corrupt that MTG has finally had enough. Her standards may stink but she has some.

 

[Shadowy Man]

Can we say the leopards ate her face?

Or lions or tigers or, best of all Hyenas.

Hey, say what you will re: MTG. Trump is so grotesquely corrupt that MTG has finally had enough. Her standards may stink but she has some.

Not sure I buy this.

 

[southernhybrid]

Can we say the leopards ate her face?

Or lions or tigers or, best of all Hyenas.

Hey, say what you will re: MTG. Trump is so grotesquely corrupt that MTG has finally had enough. Her standards may stink but she has some.

Plus she stood up to him more than any other Republican. She is either afraid of all the death threats, planning on getting a job on a news show or is simply disgusted with what's going on in Congress. Sadly, her ultra conservative district could end up with someone worse! It's highly doubtful any Democrat would win in that district. One that ran not too long ago was a likable veteran who had moderate views and he lost to her in a landslide.

 

[TV and credit cards]

Marjorie Taylor Greene's Standards
-Suggested a 2017 mass shooting in Las Vegas was a coordinated attack to spur support for new gun restrictions.
-Endorsed the idea that the U.S. government perpetrated the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001.
-Claimed Reps. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., and Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich., both Muslim women, weren’t “official” members of Congress because they used Qurans rather than Bibles in their swearing-in ceremonies.
-Sympathized with QAnon, a conspiracy theory involving a global cabal of Satan-worshipping cannibals, including U.S. government leaders, that operates a child sex trafficking ring.
Oh, and...
-Claim that California wildfires were ignited by a laser beam from space controlled by the Rothschild banking family.
ATLANTA (AP)
So somewhere between all that and Israeli genocide in Gaza, affordable healthcare, and the Epstein files is a line MTG refused to cross.
Or, and I'm just spitballin' here, maybe it was here career trajectory not getting any juice from Trump.

 

[Jarhyn]

Can we say the leopards ate her face?

Or lions or tigers or, best of all Hyenas.

Hey, say what you will re: MTG. Trump is so grotesquely corrupt that MTG has finally had enough. Her standards may stink but she has some.

Or, they needed someone for the role of "the whore", a role always scheduled to be ended forcibly and prematurely by defeat in the face of opposition.

This whole political situation is in part being engineered to look like Revelation! Revelation requires a prominent female figure who could be interpreted as a "whore", attached to no good completely awful big fat lying sack of shit, that then speaks out about "the child" and is then "destroyed" in a back room with "ten kings".

I wasn't sure whether it would be MTG or the other one, but I guess we have our answer here.

Until people wake up and realize that people are actively engineering US and international politics to fit Revelation, until people actually realize what the game is, we will be doomed to the consequences of it.

Do you really want a false Christian Theocracy? Because this is how you will get a false Christian Theocracy.