The Race For 2024

[Worldtraveller]

Exactly. Deplorable doesn't begin to cover it.

 

[Elixir]

Nice. Your reply doesn't say where Trump was convicted, which was my specific question.

Are you saying there was a court in Colorado that accused, tried, and convicted Trump of insurrection?

SCOTUS indeed needs to at least provide a modicum of direction on this. Trump clearly violated his oath of office and tried to overturn a legally binding election. This has been thoroughly proven by the 1/6 commission. The question becomes, is that publicly demonstrated fact enough?

Or is a higher authority required to find on such a charge?

So the 1/6 commission is a court that accused, tried, and convicted Trump? Just making sure.

I have been very clear with my position on the Colorado case. I repeated as much above, which you decided to take out of context, for whatever reason.

1/6 Commission was created by Congress, which is part of the Legislative Branch. The Legislative Branch would be part of the Federal Government. These are facts. They are not a court, that was not a trial, but it wasn't term paper, nor was it ruminations of a Congress person on ABC News.

So the 1/6 Commission made an accusation, nothing more. Which brings us full circle back to my making an accusation against the 118th congress, because just like the 1/6 commission I didn't do anything more than make an accusation.

The commission did much more than make an accusation. Nearly the entire course of events leading to and including 1/6 were investigated and made public. There is not much doubt that Trump conspired to overthrow the election. That'd be the conclusion from the testimony and evidence.

Just because it isn't a trial doesn't mean it is nothing but an "accusation".

Yeah yeah yeah, and when it DOES become a court case, the Imnotatrumpsuckers cry like little babies about weaponized DOJ, political persecution and all that specious rot.

Meanwhile, anyone who watched TV on 1/6/21 or saw the re-runs, knows full well that Trump tried to use violence to stay in power after losing a free and fair election in a >7 million vote landslide, because THEY SAW IT WITH THEIR OWN EYES.
That is an insurrection at the very least, and more fairly, it’s treason, for which the orange asshole should be put to death.
Jason may have stayed in bed all day on 1/6, but many of the rest of us saw what Trump did and what happened because of it.

People who witnessed the Civil War didn’t need court cases to disallow confederate officers from taking positions in the US government.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Trump leads Haley as primary stumbles onto the scene, 60% to 38%. The follow-up question for Trump supporters of "What the fuck is wrong with you?" 26% responded "enamored with the glory of the 1950s", 42% responded "haven't watched or listened to anything not Fox or AM Radio related in 30 years", 14% indicated "general desire to watch the Earth burn".

Haley is hoping to pull an upset out of thin air. DeSantis dropping out hurt Haley's chances as DeSantis supporters overlapped Trump, not Haley. I'd say DeSantis dropping out before NH was an FU to Haley. A loss in New Hampshire would generally only be to her benefit if it is notably closer than the polls indicate. But with the GOP base being all-in on deplorable insurrectionist, hard to see how stable Conservative Politician has any chance. Personally, I think Haley has a better shot at beating Biden than Trump. I can't see Haley VP'ing with him though. Makes me wonder if DeSantis is in, as he is term limited and his dropping out had strategic timing that benefitted Trump.

 

[Shadowy Man]

Jason may have stayed in bed all day on 1/6, but many of the rest of us saw what Trump did and what happened because of it.

We also saw what he didn't do, and that was defend the Capitol against attack. It doesn't even matter who was attacking or even why, the commander-in-chief did not defend the US Capitol! So, either he didn't care it was being attacked or he wanted it to be attacked. Either way, it's a dereliction of duty worthy of disqualification by itself, "aid and comfort to the enemy".

And when he did end up responding it was to praise the attackers.

Not that there isn't mounds of evidence that he was involved in a conspiracy to overthrow the election, but this alone should be enough to disqualify him from office, if not so far as to consider him guilty of treason.

 

[Elixir]

Jason may have stayed in bed all day on 1/6, but many of the rest of us saw what Trump did and what happened because of it.

We also saw what he didn't do, and that was defend the Capitol against attack. It doesn't even matter who was attacking or even why, the commander-in-chief did not defend the US Capitol! So, either he didn't care it was being attacked or he wanted it to be attacked. Either way, it's a dereliction of duty worthy of disqualification by itself, "aid and comfort to the enemy".

And when he did end up responding it was to praise the attackers.

Not that there isn't mounds of evidence that he was involved in a conspiracy to overthrow the election, but this alone should be enough to disqualify him from office, if not so far as to consider him guilty of treason.

Nothing is ever enough for an Imnotatrumpsucker to disqualify him. Not the fact that the 14th Amendment Section 3 makes no mention of any court conviction required for an insurrectionist to be disqualified, not the FACT that courts have already ruled that Trump is an insurrectionist - NOTHING would ever be enough to disqualify the guy they "never voted for" and "wasn't their candidate".
All this support for a traitor, offered in the name of justice, rule of law and of course, due process.
Ya sure, ya betcha.

 

[ZiprHead]

Dementia Don is trending.

 

[ZiprHead]

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The interviewer's question is really good. 'What... this was the first time you noticed?'

Then Haley goes on about old people.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Meanwhile, the dude is bragging about taking and passing another cognitive test. Taking so many of these things, makes on think his children are trying to find him mentally incapable of running the company.

Which is incapable of solvin’ even the sollest… smallest problem. The simplest of problems we can no longer solve. We are an institute in a powerful death penalty. We will put this on,

link

 

[ZiprHead]

The former president promised to build an “iron dome” system similar to the one used in Israel, then attempted to describe it in action.

“They go ‘missile launched!’ and you hear a bell go, I mean I see this, it’s so incredible,” he said, then praised the “geniuses” who respond to the bell to stop the missiles.

“These are not muscle guys here,” he said, pointing to his arm. Then, he pointed to his head and said, “They’re muscle guys up here.”

Trump went into sound-effect mode as he described the action:

“Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding! They’ve only got 17 seconds to figure this whole thing out, right? Boom, OK. Missile launch, pssshng, poom! It’s the most ― and we don’t have it here!”

Trump’s Attempt To Describe Missile Defense Has To Be Heard To Be Believed

The former president used sound effects and gestures as he acted out his “iron dome” plan.

uk.news.yahoo.com

 

[ZiprHead]

Pollsters got it wrong in 2018, 2020, and 2022. Here’s why political polling is no more than statistical sophistry

Drama-seeking pollsters have turned into pundits. Here's why they're failing to predict election outcomes, according to Yale's Sonnenfeld and Tian.

fortune.com

Unfortunately, closer to home, many media commentators regard the election forecasts put out by the domestic political polling industry as the product of highly sophisticated data analysis, providing breathless horse-race coverage based on who is up and who is down in the most recent poll, when in reality their practices often veer more towards unsupported assumptions and sophistry.

Great expert resources such as the National Opinion Research Center, Pew, and Edelman have better methods, larger samples, and avoid daily headline-driven overnight readings. Some such as the Harris Poll and Morning Consult are rather nuanced and accurate. However, media pundits and forecasters jam weaker outlets and partisan pollsters with reputable institutions together in their analysis.

The GOP-funded Trafalgar Group, as Slate showed, not just heavily failed in their overall calls but wrongly pronounced swings to the GOP among millennials and Hispanics when the opposite happened.

 

[Patooka]

Trump leads Haley as primary stumbles onto the scene, 60% to 38%. The follow-up question for Trump supporters of "What the fuck is wrong with you?" 26% responded "enamored with the glory of the 1950s",

Because I can survive purely on pedantry, a more accurate answer would be "enamoured with how they thought the 50s were but would be dead from polio because the stupid cunts hate vaccines."

 

[Elixir]

 

[Derec]

 

[lpetrich]

New Hampshire Primary Live Election Results 2024: Trump Wins - The New York Times
Candidate - Votes - Fraction - Delegates

• Donald J. Trump - 163,700 - 54.5% - 12
• Nikki Haley - 129,646 - 43.2% - 9
• Ron DeSantis - 2,046 - 0.7% - 0
• Chris Christie - 1,270 - 0.4% - 0
• Vivek Ramaswamy - 687 - 0.2% - 0
• Mike Pence - 353 - 0.1% - 0
• Ryan Binkley - 265 - 0.1% - 0
• Mary Maxwell - 243 - 0.1% - 0
• Tim Scott - 166 - 0.1% - 0
• Doug Burgum - 158 - 0.1% - 0
• Asa Hutchinson - 98 - <0.1% - 0
• Rachel Swift - 89 - <0.1% - 0
• Scott Ayers - 76 - <0.1% - 0
• Darius Mitchell - 60 - <0.1% - 0
• Glenn McPeters - 40 - <0.1% - 0
• Peter Jedick - 25 - <0.1% - 0
• Perry Johnson - 22 - <0.1% - 0
• David Stuckenberg - 21 - <0.1% - 0
• Scott Merrell - 19 - <0.1% - 0
• Donald Kjornes - 17 - <0.1% - 0
• Robert Carney - 15 - <0.1% - 0
• Hirsh Singh - 9 - <0.1% - 0
• John Castro - 7 - <0.1% - 0
• Samuel Sloan - 5 - <0.1% - 0
• Total Write-Ins - 1,061 - 0.4% - 0

Total reported - 300,098, 92% of all votes.

2024 New Hampshire Republican Presidential Primary Polls | RealClearPolling

RCP average: Donald Trump 55.8, Nikki Haley 36.5, Ron DeSantis 8.0

So it seems that NH got most of RdS's voters. NH did well in NH.

Nevada's caucuses are two weeks from now, and South Carolina's primary four weeks from now.

 

[lpetrich]

Ron DeSantis was supported by a PAC called Never Back Down, but he did back down when he saw how much he was losing.

Ryan Binkley’s still running. Here’s what he’s hoping for in New Hampshire. - Live updates - POLITICO - 01/22/2024, 6:20pm ET

“Listen, if we get a few points, it’d be fine,” Binkley said of Tuesday's primary. “You know, we’re just looking to move on.”

He has already planned his trip out to Nevada, where he and Trump will be caucusgoers' only remaining options Feb. 8. Haley registered for the state-run primary, rather than the Nevada GOP’s caucuses that will award delegates at the Republican convention this summer.

“Nikki Haley signed up for the wrong thing,” Binkley said.

He got 0.7% in Iowa, and 0.1% in New Hampshire. Will he continue?

 

[lpetrich]

New Hampshire Democratic Primary Election Results 2024 - The New York Times
Candidate - Votes - Fraction

• Joseph R. Biden Jr. - 54,749 - 51.6%
• Dean Phillips - 20,977 - 19.8%
• Unprocessed Write-Ins - 14,967 - 14.1%
• Other Write-Ins - 6,608 - 6.2%
• Marianne Williamson - 5,016 - 4.7%
• Derek Nadeau - 1,180 - 1.1%
• Vermin Supreme - 639 - 0.6%
• John Vail - 506 - 0.5%
• Donald Picard - 272 - 0.3%
• Paperboy Prince - 220 - 0.2%
• Mark Greenstein - 202 - 0.2%
• Paul LaCava - 139 - 0.1%
• Jason Palmer - 100 - 0.1%
• President Boddie - 94 - 0.1%
• Terrisa Bukovinac - 77 - 0.1%
• Stephen Lyons - 73 - 0.1%
• Gabriel Cornejo - 56 - 0.1%
• Tom Koos - 52 - <0.1%
• Armando Perez-Serrato - 48 - <0.1%
• Star Locke - 46 - <0.1%
• Frankie Lozada - 44 - <0.1%
• Raymond Moroz - 39 - <0.1%
• Richard Rist - 32 - <0.1%
• Eban Cambridge - 26 - <0.1%

Total reported - 106,162 - 90%

The write-ins included "Ceasefire" - not really a candidate, of course.

 

[ZiprHead]

WE JUST WON NEVADA!

@real Donald Trump

Truth Social

Truth Social is America's "Big Tent" social media platform that encourages an open, free, and honest global conversation without discriminating on the basis of political ideology.

truthsocial.com

 

[Ford]

Meanwhile, the dude is bragging about taking and passing another cognitive test. Taking so many of these things, makes on think his children are trying to find him mentally incapable of running the company.

Which is incapable of solvin’ even the sollest… smallest problem. The simplest of problems we can no longer solve. We are an institute in a powerful death penalty. We will put this on,

link

Or his campaign/financial backers are trying to keep track of whether or not their client/patient is good enough to keep in the race. In either case, it makes me want to scream "they're giving him regular cognitive tests. This is not normal!"

In my previous role, I had to take random drug tests and a monthly in-depth performance audit because they had to make sure I was safely operating an expensive, experimental vehicle in a limited area on public roads. This guy is running for President, and they have to make sure he can identify a picture of an elephant? Holy fuck...

 

[Swammerdami]

Meanwhile, the dude is bragging about taking and passing another cognitive test. Taking so many of these things, makes on think his children are trying to find him mentally incapable of running the company.

Which is incapable of solvin’ even the sollest… smallest problem. The simplest of problems we can no longer solve. We are an institute in a powerful death penalty. We will put this on,

link

My browsing skills are becoming more and more pathetic. From the link am I supposed to click at lower-right where it says 'Ad'?

Stephen Colbert shows it:



What is "death penalty" about? A misread teleprompter word?