Prove it.
The fact remains "5,000 to 7,000" are migrating north to the US. Why? If they are fleeing abuse, why not stop in Mexico?
My god you can't be this ignorant, surely.
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The vanguard of the Caravan is already in Mexico City, more than halfway to the border
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My god you can't be this ignorant, surely.
laughing dog
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Your response to my post was "Correct, and I don't need to" which speaks for itself. Your lack of surprise is clearly consistent with your well-documented history of unreasoning posts.
Are you now distancing yourself from your bogus claim that these migrants demand that the world owes them?
The people trying to break into Israel intend violence. The people in the caravan want jobs. Big difference.
Draft status--only requires citizens to register. A British tourist can't break the law.
Income tax--foreigners are definitely subject to US income tax laws. As non-citizens/non-residents they are only subject to taxation of income earned in the US and since they're not allowed to work few earn enough to have to file. It's possible to owe US income tax without ever setting foot in the US--invest income is income.
Max Rockatansky
Die dulci freure
Prove it.
The fact remains "5,000 to 7,000" are migrating north to the US. Why? If they are fleeing abuse, why not stop in Mexico?
My god you can't be this ignorant, surely.
Personal attack? Check!
Derail the point? Check!
Attack Mexico? Check!
Looks like you hit the liberal trifecta! Winner, winner!
Sorry, but I go to Mexico all the time. Yes, like the US, there are parts I wouldn't go, but most of it is very nice. In fact many Americans are retiring down there:
https://internationalliving.com/countries/mexico/one-million/
https://internationalliving.com/countries/mexico/one-million/
Now, for those who want to discuss this sensibly, without personal attacks and political agendas, who can tell me why the caravan is coming to the US and whether or not the US owes them anything?
You've been given plenty of good reasons. Dismissing them simply because they don't fit your narrative doesn't change that. And if pointing out Mexico is currently not a safe place for asylum seekers is derailing, why did you bring Mexico up in the first place? Answering a question is not derailing. I know you keep on harping about the constitution (as though the US is the only country that has one), but might I humbly suggest going through a dictionary first.
Elixir
Made in America
The people in the SCARE-avan could tell you if they were afforded the chance. They are humans and probably each have a unique story. With the elections done, the right wing fearmongers have no further use for it - not a peep about it from them since Tuesday. The law provides that they should be heard if they make it to US soil - legally or otherwise. So you'll have to wait to hear their stories.
That will depend on what each of their stories actually are - they're not a monolith or an army. But it's no longer a concern, now that the SCARE-avan has outlived its usefulness as a panic-driver for right wing voters.
Trumpism has been dealt a major smackdown, and there is little profit in telling the base that they are such wimps that their country will be "overrun" by a group that US citizens outnumber by around 300,000 to 1 at the very worst.
This is the fastest disappearing "National Emergency" in history, thanks to the impeccable leadership of Fuckface von Clownstick..
Max Rockatansky
Die dulci freure
Thanks for refusing to acknowledge your errors and going back to your agenda. That’s fine. I’m fine with the status quo: no one should be allowed into our nation without authorization. We don’t owe anyone anything unless covered by treaty despite the whiny protests of some on the far Left. Yes, most babies born in the US, regardless of parental citizenship, are US citizens per the Constitution you are seeking to disregard despite the whiny protests of some on the far right.
Elixir
Made in America
I answered your question but you seem uninterested in discussing it, preferring to pursue bickering.
So your solution is to deny them authorization to present their cases, then shoot them if they throw rocks in protest against that denial? I'd prefer to send a bunch of immigration judges down to the border crossings and hear them out. What's the risk in that?
untermensche
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That some actually care that a handful of migrants are heading towards the most powerful and most wealthy nation to ever exist is just amazing.
Trump is teaching some Americans the joy of being a greedy miser. With no friends.
Trump is teaching some Americans the joy of being a greedy miser. With no friends.
Thumpalumpacus
Alive in the Superunknown
Yeah, no.
This is an extremely short-sighted and self-serving analysis that is largely free of factuality.
It does, however, have some entertainment value. Thanks for the laugh.
Thumpalumpacus
Alive in the Superunknown
Do you normally engage in broad-brushing, or is this a mental hiccup on your part?
Don2 (Don1 Revised)
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Based on other posts re: "LW" it is a regular occurrence.
Thumpalumpacus
Alive in the Superunknown
Yeah, that's how it strikes me ... I just like to let a guy explain himself when possible.
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Elixir
Made in America
Yeah, those alt-right morons are really easy to scare. Hell - a couple thousand un-armed, barefoot Latinos that are a thousand miles away make them shit their pants. Of course they forget all about it once their orange avatar stops telling them to panic. I guess the she-males are still haunting their dreams though... they used to have to use the correct bathroom before the Democrats - oh, wait - no they didn't. Keep on panicking then! That's pretty much all they know how to do.
That's well said. 2 years of "fuck you back" has been really good for their morale, and that's what counts, right?
Of course they don't notice that their standard of living has gone DOWN while their overlords have gotten a lot richer, but hey - it's worth it to be able to say "fuck you back!". Infrastructure week really gave them the ability to mobilize the message.
That's what makes 'Murka great.
Max Rockatansky
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Only when it’s appropriate.
How many here have advocated “we need to do something” but their only advice is to spend other people’s money?
You're welcome, anytime. Though I am a bit nervous when astute minds like yourself realize my secret agenda to call out bullshit whenever I see it. Are you going to ever quote the relevant parts of THE CONSTITUTION! (TM) that validate your assertions (just for beginners, where it discusses asylum seekers) or are you just going to obfuscate like Joseph Smith in South Park?
"Believe in the magical mystical powers of THE CONSTITUTION! (TM). THE CONSTITUTION! (TM) can even cure cancer if you just let it into your hearts! THE CONSTITUTION! (TM) has the answer to everything!"
Prove it. Quote from it and say how it is relevant to the discussion at hand.
laughing dog
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No one. There is one person here who persistently confuses the posting idiotic conservative meme straw men with intelligent discussion.
Max Rockatansky
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Disagreed, but thanks for confessing to be a conservative. I’d never have guessed.