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The Virus - Are You Affected?

Daughter called yesterday and asked, "If you were being laid off, what would you want your employer to tell you?", as she prepared to lay off the entire restaurant staff, who most likely live paycheck-to-paycheck. I had to think about that one for a while. Best I could come up with was:

  • We're sorry.
  • This is not your fault.
  • We want you back as soon as we can re-open.
  • I'll help you with the unemployment claim.
  • The government is planning to send money to everyone.
  • The governor has made it illegal for you to be evicted, have your services turned off, or be charged late fees on those payments.

She's very loyal to all of them, and they feel the same way about her. This really hurts.
 
Schools are listing out all the work the students need to do each day which is like 6 hours of work. It's all going to be tracked and attendance, too.

Parents are like, what, how the heck am I supposed to handle this unruly child all day for 6 hours a day?
 
Schools are listing out all the work the students need to do each day which is like 6 hours of work. It's all going to be tracked and attendance, too.

Parents are like, what, how the heck am I supposed to handle this unruly child all day for 6 hours a day?

They'll all appreciate teachers a whole lot more. That will last for about two weeks after the kids go back.
 
My prediction is that by April we will be laughing going, "Remember how everyone panicked over the coronavirus because the media started fear mongering?"

The flu reinvented itself after 100 years and now everyone's in a panic because of the media. When I was younger, if you didn't have chicken pox, your parents would invent a friend over who had it so you could get it and be done with it. This isolation nonsense is frustrating. I wish I could tell everyone, "Stop getting your info from the media! They are designed to fear monger!"

THink about it logically. They are telling bars, restaurants, schools to close. Sports have been cancelled. But places like 711, convenience stores and supermarkets? Still open no problem. Why is this? Either it's a problem or it's not. i suppose they are sending a message that, "you can get the virus at a bar or a restaurant but you can't get it form convenience stores or supermarkets!"

Didn't you get the memo to change your talking points like the other magaheads have? You're supposed to say the virus is bad now.

[YOUTUBE]https://youtu.be/ifKbwDf51bA[/YOUTUBE]
 
Ford, GM and FCA closing all their production facilities due to the virus.
 
Went out to buy food today. Lots of empty shelves and a lot less people and traffic, but gotta still eat. Never encountered this before in my life. When my dad was growing up during the depression he said his mom would give them some bread and fruit and tell them "that's all there is." He would go to a local stream or lake to catch crayfish and other things to eat.
 
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The slope of the logarithmic plot is flattening, which means that the growth rate is going down.

I'm admittedly math illiterate but using a logarithmic scale doesn't seem to me to be the best way to measure how steep the total cases curve is. Making it appear flatter than it really is.

When a log scale is flat the underlying curve is exponential. It's much easier to see if a line is straight than to see if a line is exponential or not. The log scale requires more understanding but is more informative to those who do understand. Unchecked disease growth has been thought to be exponential so the log scale provides a good indication of anything that's limiting it. However, earlier today I ran into an interesting tidbit--contact isn't random and thus the curve will end up somewhat below exponential.
 
Speaking of isolation, we've just been informed that not only can we not visit my mom in assisted living, all residents are required to stay in their own apartments all the time. No dinner downstairs. No group activities. I've encouraged mom to turn the TV on and get some virtual company. Even having Gilligan's Island playing in the background for 5 hours a day will help.

I don't know how I could take that. While I stay home almost all the time, I have a wife and kids and 2 acres of land that I can walk around outside.

The only thing I miss about the situation is hiking. (The land isn't flat enough around here to just go wandering around in most places, and if you follow the trails you meet plenty of people. The norm for most areas is get there early or you won't find a parking space.) Once you're an hour in avoiding people would be easy in most situations (once in a while you're in an area where stepping appreciably off the trail isn't possible) because there aren't a lot of them but it's not feasible near the trailheads.

Are you actually under quarantine? There are no trails with few people? I think that if I were in the mood to go to one of the state parks around here I could hike with practically no risk of being too close to anyone. But as it is our property abuts several hundred acres of town conservation land and if I wished to take a hike in the wood the chances are probably 1 in 100 that I'd see anyone else on the trails. Much safer than the necessary trips to the grocery store.

No quarantine. However, anything around here that would only have a 1 in 100 chance of seeing someone is something I would need a more suitable vehicle to reach. I can think of only one hike I've ever been on when I didn't encounter someone else and when we got back to the trailhead there were more cars there (the trail could be looped, presumably they were on the other part)--and the next time we hiked it we did encounter others on the trail.
 
Thankfully my parents finally got a flight, so now hoping they manage to make the trek. My work also managed to enact their work from home policy so that was great news too, a bit complicated because we're healthcare. So far I like the way things are going globally, most people and organizations seem to be on board now. Things might not be ideal, but we might as well focus on making them better.
 
My prediction is that by April we will be laughing going, "Remember how everyone panicked over the coronavirus because the media started fear mongering?"
The media? Half-Life, I thought that you believe in capitalism. The news media is almost 100% capitalism, and capitalism always produces the best of all possible worlds, right?

THink about it logically. They are telling bars, restaurants, schools to close. Sports have been cancelled. But places like 711, convenience stores and supermarkets? Still open no problem. Why is this? Either it's a problem or it's not. i suppose they are sending a message that, "you can get the virus at a bar or a restaurant but you can't get it form convenience stores or supermarkets!"
It's much more necessary to go to a store than to go to a bar. But in extreme cases, one can do home delivery of groceries.
 
I'm admittedly math illiterate but using a logarithmic scale doesn't seem to me to be the best way to measure how steep the total cases curve is. Making it appear flatter than it really is.
But it's a good way of (1) showing variation over large range of size scales and (2) showing exponential behavior at a glance.
 
My prediction is that by April we will be laughing going, "Remember how everyone panicked over the coronavirus because the media started fear mongering?"
The media? Half-Life, I thought that you believe in capitalism. The news media is almost 100% capitalism, and capitalism always produces the best of all possible worlds, right?

THink about it logically. They are telling bars, restaurants, schools to close. Sports have been cancelled. But places like 711, convenience stores and supermarkets? Still open no problem. Why is this? Either it's a problem or it's not. i suppose they are sending a message that, "you can get the virus at a bar or a restaurant but you can't get it form convenience stores or supermarkets!"
It's much more necessary to go to a store than to go to a bar. But in extreme cases, one can do home delivery of groceries.

https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/Israeli-nobel-laureate-Coronavirus-spread-is-slowing-621145

"Michael Levitt praised Israel for its preventative measures. He said most people are naturally immune, and that since the infection rate in China is slowing down, "the end of the pandemic is near."

I for one am glad. No more stupid people fighting each other over toilet paper as if the disease is in people's butts or something.
 
https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/Israeli-nobel-laureate-Coronavirus-spread-is-slowing-621145

"Michael Levitt praised Israel for its preventative measures. He said most people are naturally immune, and that since the infection rate in China is slowing down, "the end of the pandemic is near."

I for one am glad. No more stupid people fighting each other over toilet paper as if the disease is in people's butts or something.

Halfie, have you gone rogue from magaland? You're going off message, you're supposed to say the virus is bad now.

[YOUTUBE]https://youtu.be/ifKbwDf51bA[/YOUTUBE]
 
The media? Half-Life, I thought that you believe in capitalism. The news media is almost 100% capitalism, and capitalism always produces the best of all possible worlds, right?


It's much more necessary to go to a store than to go to a bar. But in extreme cases, one can do home delivery of groceries.

https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/Israeli-nobel-laureate-Coronavirus-spread-is-slowing-621145

"Michael Levitt praised Israel for its preventative measures. He said most people are naturally immune, and that since the infection rate in China is slowing down, "the end of the pandemic is near."

I for one am glad. No more stupid people fighting each other over toilet paper as if the disease is in people's butts or something.

Praised Israel for its preventive measures.
Meanwhile, Florida is spring fucking break for goddamned plague monkeys. Miiiiiiight stretch the pandemic just a titch when they go home.

PS. How the fuck is this a reply to the quoted post?
 
https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/Israeli-nobel-laureate-Coronavirus-spread-is-slowing-621145

"Michael Levitt praised Israel for its preventative measures. He said most people are naturally immune, and that since the infection rate in China is slowing down, "the end of the pandemic is near."

I for one am glad. No more stupid people fighting each other over toilet paper as if the disease is in people's butts or something.

Halfie, have you gone rogue from magaland? You're going off message, you're supposed to say the virus is bad now.

[YOUTUBE]https://youtu.be/ifKbwDf51bA[/YOUTUBE]

And the people who have it NOW will ony have it for 2 weeks at most. Meaning if people stay isolated for the most part and the rate of infection drops, it will be gone in a little over 2 weeks.

China is returning to normal already! And with Trump handling this the best way anybody could, it will be over very soon.
 
And the people who have it NOW will ony have it for 2 weeks at most. Meaning if people stay isolated for the most part and the rate of infection drops, it will be gone in a little over 2 weeks..

Dude, that's not what a 14-day quarantine means.
 
And the people who have it NOW will ony have it for 2 weeks at most. Meaning if people stay isolated for the most part and the rate of infection drops, it will be gone in a little over 2 weeks..

Dude, that's not what a 14-day quarantine means.

Trust me, within a few weeks, life will be back to normal. The government knows riots will happen if it's not. People need to work. Can't go too long without money.

People are acting like we are in the days of the bubonic plague where we knew absolutely nothing scientifically. A new version of the flu already has the idiots panicking, though. The smart ones are laughing.
 
The media? Half-Life, I thought that you believe in capitalism. The news media is almost 100% capitalism, and capitalism always produces the best of all possible worlds, right?


It's much more necessary to go to a store than to go to a bar. But in extreme cases, one can do home delivery of groceries.

https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/Israeli-nobel-laureate-Coronavirus-spread-is-slowing-621145

"Michael Levitt praised Israel for its preventative measures. He said most people are naturally immune, and that since the infection rate in China is slowing down, "the end of the pandemic is near."

I for one am glad. No more stupid people fighting each other over toilet paper as if the disease is in people's butts or something.

He is wrong, stupidly wrong. The coronavirus is called a "novel virus" because it crossed over from animals to humans. Humans have never encountered this virus before so therefore have no natural immunity. That's why it's so dangerous and so communicable.
 
"within a few weeks"?

You're about to be hit by a national crisis (as are we in the UK) that will last several months, even years. Look at Italy. Italy is a wealthy country with an excellent healthcare system. They could not cope.

And whilst Italy is only second to China in terms of confirmed cases, the USA are moving up the rankings: you overtook France and South Korea today. You may get to number one yet,.
 
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