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Donald McNeil, NYT Health Reporter on TRMS, just said in two weeks we will exceed Italy in deaths. :eek:

He also said we are following the Italy model of response instead of the asian model.
 
Donald McNeil, NYT Health Reporter on TRMS, just said in two weeks we will exceed Italy in deaths. :eek:

He also said we are following the Italy model of response instead of the asian model.

Of course we will exceed Italy in deaths. Italy only has 61 million people. We have 327 million. The ones who will die will be a majority of the old people who have already lived full healthy and happy lives. The young people will be fine. If by some chance I contract the virus and die, then so be it. It was my time to go. I will accept God's plan accordingly.
 
You're about to be hit by a national crisis (as are we in the UK) that will last several months, even years. Look at Italy. Italy is a wealthy country with an excellent healthcare system. They could not cope.
Italy wealthy? Compared to what? Certainly not some other EU countries. Remember the PIIGS?

And whilst Italy is only second to China in terms of confirmed cases, the USA are moving up the rankings: you overtook France and South Korea today. You may get to number one yet,.
Well we have the highest population out of all these countries.
 
Donald McNeil, NYT Health Reporter on TRMS, just said in two weeks we will exceed Italy in deaths. :eek:

He also said we are following the Italy model of response instead of the asian model.

Of course we will exceed Italy in deaths. Italy only has 61 million people. We have 327 million. The ones who will die will be a majority of the old people who have already lived full healthy and happy lives. The young people will be fine. If by some chance I contract the virus and die, then so be it. It was my time to go. I will accept God's plan accordingly.

Actually, the message has changed rather drastically about young people being safe. It turns out that 20% of hospitalizations have been young people between 20-44 years of age. We have been wrong to say that it is only the elderly with underlying illnesses who need to worry. It is all of us.

See 'They're Feeling Invincible': White House Steps Up Warnings To Young Adults
 
Coronavirus kills 3 family members, sickens 4 others after dinner in New Jersey

A 73-year-old New Jersey woman died from coronavirus without knowing that her two adult children also got infected and died shortly before she did, The New York Times reported.

Grace Fusco, 73, died Wednesday and was unaware of the deaths of her oldest son and daughter from Covid-19, the disease caused by coronavirus.

A relative told the newspaper that four other children also have coronavirus and remain hospitalized -- three in critical condition. CNN has reached out to a family representative but has not heard back.

The infections appeared to have originated from a family dinner this month, the Times reported. It said the first person to die from coronavirus in New Jersey attended that gathering.
 
Italy wealthy? Compared to what? Certainly not some other EU countries. Remember the PIIGS?

Compared to countries in general. Italy is a wealthy country with an advanced economy, a high standard of living, and an excellent health service. If they can be overwhelmed, anybody can.

Well we have the highest population out of all these countries.

What's your excuse going to be when your numbers soar past China's?
 
Coronavirus kills 3 family members, sickens 4 others after dinner in New Jersey

A 73-year-old New Jersey woman died from coronavirus without knowing that her two adult children also got infected and died shortly before she did, The New York Times reported.

Grace Fusco, 73, died Wednesday and was unaware of the deaths of her oldest son and daughter from Covid-19, the disease caused by coronavirus.

A relative told the newspaper that four other children also have coronavirus and remain hospitalized -- three in critical condition. CNN has reached out to a family representative but has not heard back.

The infections appeared to have originated from a family dinner this month, the Times reported. It said the first person to die from coronavirus in New Jersey attended that gathering.

We're being advised to limit our gatherings to not more than 50 people. Must be a big family.
 
Coronavirus kills 3 family members, sickens 4 others after dinner in New Jersey

A 73-year-old New Jersey woman died from coronavirus without knowing that her two adult children also got infected and died shortly before she did, The New York Times reported.

Grace Fusco, 73, died Wednesday and was unaware of the deaths of her oldest son and daughter from Covid-19, the disease caused by coronavirus.

A relative told the newspaper that four other children also have coronavirus and remain hospitalized -- three in critical condition. CNN has reached out to a family representative but has not heard back.

The infections appeared to have originated from a family dinner this month, the Times reported. It said the first person to die from coronavirus in New Jersey attended that gathering.

We're being advised to limit our gatherings to not more than 50 people. Must be a big family.

From reading the article, it looks like it was a group of a little over twenty.
 
"within a few weeks"?

You're about to be hit by a national crisis (as are we in the UK) that will last several months, even years. Look at Italy. Italy is a wealthy country with an excellent healthcare system. They could not cope.

And whilst Italy is only second to China in terms of confirmed cases, the USA are moving up the rankings: you overtook France and South Korea today. You may get to number one yet,.

Looking at all of Italy and extrapolating their numbers to the US paints an overly optimistic picture.

Cases have been reported in every province, but a majority are still in a handful of fairly localized hotspots.

However, the tiny nation of San Marino, surrounded by Italy, might give us a better glimpse of what is to come if no early and decisive measures are taken, or if measures are relaxed prematurely. They have 33,000 inhabitants (yes, that's thousands, not millions), and are pretty much inside one of Italy's hotspots (the entire country). As of yesterday, 3 weeks after the first confirmed case, they had over 100 confirmed cases, 14 deaths and around 2% of the population under individual quarantine (the whole country is in lockdown, those are just suspected cases and contacts).
 
Donald McNeil, NYT Health Reporter on TRMS, just said in two weeks we will exceed Italy in deaths. :eek:

He also said we are following the Italy model of response instead of the asian model.

Of course we will exceed Italy in deaths. Italy only has 61 million people. We have 327 million. The ones who will die will be a majority of the old people who have already lived full healthy and happy lives. The young people will be fine. If by some chance I contract the virus and die, then so be it. It was my time to go. I will accept God's plan accordingly.

Actually, the message has changed rather drastically about young people being safe. It turns out that 20% of hospitalizations have been young people between 20-44 years of age. We have been wrong to say that it is only the elderly with underlying illnesses who need to worry. It is all of us.

See 'They're Feeling Invincible': White House Steps Up Warnings To Young Adults
Just because it doesn't kill you, doesn't mean you don't need treatment.
 
I've been wiping down my mail with rubbing alcohol to disinfect it. I heard someone suggest that money, mail, and other paper objects can be disinfected by placing them in an oven set at 165 F or higher. That seems to make sense. I also carry around an 8 ounce spray bottle with 70% alcohol to mist door knobs and such.
 
well i started a new job today, and the drive downtown was a breeze and the bagel place was empty.
so far in a purely personal basis this is pretty sweet, we need more national panic attacks if it means my commute is so much easier.

I've come to hope that i am wrong about this thing, that it isn't just the latest herd panic idiocy, and that it's the plague everyone is acting like it is.
if enough people die traffic around here might thin out permanently, finally an upside to the inconvenience of toilet paper being scarce.
 
I've been wiping down my mail with rubbing alcohol to disinfect it. I heard someone suggest that money, mail, and other paper objects can be disinfected by placing them in an oven set at 165 F or higher. That seems to make sense. I also carry around an 8 ounce spray bottle with 70% alcohol to mist door knobs and such.

Not sure if all the retailers are out of this stuff, but it's magic:
https://www.purebio.com/technology/silver-dihydrogen-citrate-sdc.htm

Active ingredient is Silver Dihydrogen Citrate, and according to the FDA/EPA registration (and consistent with other published material) it kills corona virus almost immediately (30 seconds, vs 10 minutes for traditional ammonium chloride products). Also effective against a very broad spectrum of microorganisms and virii (listed in the MSDS and technical specs linked in that page).
It is non-toxic, non-caustic, colorless, odorless, tasteless, does not produce toxic fumes, and on hard surfaces it has residual effectiveness for 24 hours. Also more stable than other silver-based products, with several years of shelf life. I've been using it for years and have found that even flies won't land on surfaces that have been wiped down with it. It can stain some surfaces but I've never had that problem with it.
 
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Not sure if all the retailers are out of this stuff, but it's magic:
https://www.purebio.com/technology/silver-dihydrogen-citrate-sdc.htm

Active ingredient is Silver Dihydrogen Citrate, and according to the FDA/EPA registration (and consistent with other published material) it kills corona virus almost immediately (30 seconds, vs 10 minutes for traditional ammonium chloride products). Also effective against a very broad spectrum of microorganisms and virii (listed in the MSDS and technical specs linked in that page).
It is non-toxic, non-caustic, colorless, odorless, tasteless, does not produce toxic fumes, and on hard surfaces it has residual effectiveness for 24 hours. Also more stable than other silver-based products, with several years of shelf life. I've been using it for years and have found that even flies won't land on surfaces that have been wiped down with it. It can stain some surfaces but I've never had that problem with it.

I've just purchased some Hanes undershirts with "FreshIQ" that "inhibits microbial action". It uses something call Silverdur that emits silver ions. Probably not the first line of defense against coronavirus but it's supposed to last for 30 washings or so.
 
Minnesota and Vermont will classify grocery store employees as emergency workers

(CNN)As many people across the country hunker down in their homes to prevent the spread of the coronavirus, others still have to report to work each day -- because they perform critical functions that allow the rest of us to stay safe and healthy.

In addition to health care workers and first responders, the people on the frontlines of the outbreak also include grocery store employees: the clerks who operate the registers, the staff who stock the shelves, the people who work in distribution and the workers who keep the stores clean.
Now some states are classifying grocery store workers as emergency employees, making them eligible for certain benefits.

Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz issued an executive order over the weekend that provides childcare for school-age children of emergency workers, which now encompasses grocery store employees. The guidance following the order classifies "food distribution workers" as essential tier 2 employees for whom districts should provide childcare. "Care for children of educators, gas and electric utility workers, food distribution personnel, water treatment staff, and others outlined below is essential to ensuring the public continues to receive these vital services," the executive order reads.
 
The media? Half-Life, I thought that you believe in capitalism. The news media is almost 100% capitalism, and capitalism always produces the best of all possible worlds, right?


It's much more necessary to go to a store than to go to a bar. But in extreme cases, one can do home delivery of groceries.

https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/Israeli-nobel-laureate-Coronavirus-spread-is-slowing-621145

"Michael Levitt praised Israel for its preventative measures. He said most people are naturally immune, and that since the infection rate in China is slowing down, "the end of the pandemic is near."

I for one am glad. No more stupid people fighting each other over toilet paper as if the disease is in people's butts or something.

I'd like to know how you can wipe your ass with your head in the way.
 
The media? Half-Life, I thought that you believe in capitalism. The news media is almost 100% capitalism, and capitalism always produces the best of all possible worlds, right?


It's much more necessary to go to a store than to go to a bar. But in extreme cases, one can do home delivery of groceries.

https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/Israeli-nobel-laureate-Coronavirus-spread-is-slowing-621145

"Michael Levitt praised Israel for its preventative measures. He said most people are naturally immune, and that since the infection rate in China is slowing down, "the end of the pandemic is near."

I for one am glad. No more stupid people fighting each other over toilet paper as if the disease is in people's butts or something.

I'd like to know how you can wipe your ass with your head in the way.

Considering the amount of shit being spewed forth, it's pretty obvious no arse wiping is happening. And I seriously doubt Half-life knows what a lota urn is so it's best to just not think about it.
 
I've been wiping down my mail with rubbing alcohol to disinfect it. I heard someone suggest that money, mail, and other paper objects can be disinfected by placing them in an oven set at 165 F or higher. That seems to make sense. I also carry around an 8 ounce spray bottle with 70% alcohol to mist door knobs and such.

I like the way you think. My goal is to make it to the vaccine still covid-free. I'm treating this like a video game where I'm going to finish the whole game in one try.
 
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