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Trump caught on a hot mic talking about groping women

 
 
 
Trausti said:
You've never talked about your experience with women with your friends? Ever? And guys tend to exaggerate their exploits, ya know. Didn't realize that this board was populated with the Sunday School crowd.
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I have never bragged to my friends about trying to fuck a married woman, because trying to fuck a married woman (while being married myself) would make me an asshole. I try to not be an asshole. Even when the tape isn't rolling.

I have also never bragged about forcing myself on women, because I don't force myself on women. That would make me an asshole, and I try to not be an asshole. Even if I'm talking to Billy Bush.

I have, however, had a small measure of fame. Like Billy Bush, I was a drive-time radio host. My career didn't take off quite like his, but I did get to experience what it is like to have hundreds of thousands of people who knew who I was. Got recognized in a shopping mall or two. Made the front page of the paper. Been asked for my autograph, even.

It is true. Being a celebrity (even locally like I was) changes the way some people interact with you. I got to meet lots of women who wouldn't have given me the time of day otherwise. I (as my friends would say) "out punted my coverage" on many occasions, dating women who looked at me differently because I was "famous."

Yet while I enjoyed the extra attention, I never treated women like shit just because I was "famous." Never tried to "grab them in the pussy" or kiss them without consent, and when I finally did get married I never cheated on my wife even though I had ample opportunity. Why? Again, trying not to be an asshole.
 
SLD said:
I wasn't aware of the details with Ivana. I though I read something that part of the divorce required her to retract that statement? Is that true? SLD
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Essentially, yes. And she is not allowed to discuss anything at all about him or their marriage or their divorce settlement.
 
Trausti said:
untermensche said:
Some are too ignorant to understand that Bill Clinton is not running for president.
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But a person who is constantly defends him. And Trump didn't actually grope anyone. But there are those who abused their power to do so:

Then he showed me some personal memorabilia: a pastel of Caroline, a terracotta bust of a young boy. I noticed he was moving closer and closer. I could feel his breath on my neck. He put his hand on my shoulder.
‘This is a very private room,’ he said. The next thing I knew, he was standing in front of me, his face inches away, his eyes staring directly into mine.
He placed both hands on my shoulders and guided me toward the edge of the bed. I landed on my elbows, frozen halfway between sitting up and lying on my back.
Slowly, he unbuttoned the top of my shirtdress and touched my breasts. Then he started to pull off my underwear.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2099498/Mimi-Alford-The-day-JFK-took-virginity-wifes-White-House-bed.html

But that was a Democrat, so it's okay.
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You didn't finish the quote:

"I couldn’t believe what was happening. Nor could I believe what I did next: I finished unbuttoning my shirtdress and let it fall off my shoulders.
Then he was above me. He paused briefly when he felt some physical resistance.
‘Haven’t you done this before?’ he asked. ‘No’, I said. ‘Are you OK?’ he asked. Yes, I replied, and he resumed, but more gently. ‘Are you OK?’ he kept saying. I nodded."

Their affair was purely voluntary and Kennedy asked several time if it was OK to continue. Maybe he's a scum for cheating on his wife. But to claim it's the equivalent of Trump is just wrong.

SLD

ETA: And yes Trump has been accused of groping women as has been pointed out on this board. Now we have his admission.
 
Trausti said:
Tom Sawyer said:
Explain the hypocrisy. At what point did Clinton sexually assault Lewinsky? Trump is bragging about just going up and groping women he meets. Clinton was engaging in consensual sex with another adult. I really don't see what the comparison is that you're drawing to have attitudes be hypocritical.
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When men are together, it's not uncommon for them talk about women (and their conquests of women). Any guy who says he's never had a conversation like that with other guys is either an emasculated weenie or a liar. Really, each and every one of us has said things with friends that we'd rather not have recorded. Heck, could you imagine what having a conversation with Bill Clinton might be like?
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Do you truly not understand the distinction? It is not about Donald Trump talk about his consensual "conquests" of women. It is about him bragging about SEXUALLY ASSAULTING women. And if it were only talk, I'd chalk it up to him being a disgusting pig; but we also have multiple women who have reported that he has actually groped them in exactly that manner.

Jill Harth (one of his victims) made an interesting comment that she thinks Trump genuinely doesn't understand that he sexually assaulted her; that his behavior is what he thinks flirting looks like.

Do you have the same problem?
 
Trausti said:
And Trump didn't actually grope anyone...
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Yes he did! That is the point! Multiple women (including a minor and including two of his ex-wives) have reported his behavior over the years. This tape is simply him admitting it. It isn't the fact that he bragged about doing it (which is bad enough), but that he actually did do it to multiple women.
 
Trausti said:
untermensche said:
Some are too ignorant to understand that Bill Clinton is not running for president.
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But a person who is constantly defends him. And Trump didn't actually grope anyone. But there are those who abused their power to do so:

Then he showed me some personal memorabilia: a pastel of Caroline, a terracotta bust of a young boy. I noticed he was moving closer and closer. I could feel his breath on my neck. He put his hand on my shoulder.
‘This is a very private room,’ he said. The next thing I knew, he was standing in front of me, his face inches away, his eyes staring directly into mine.
He placed both hands on my shoulders and guided me toward the edge of the bed. I landed on my elbows, frozen halfway between sitting up and lying on my back.
Slowly, he unbuttoned the top of my shirtdress and touched my breasts. Then he started to pull off my underwear.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2099498/Mimi-Alford-The-day-JFK-took-virginity-wifes-White-House-bed.html

But that was a Democrat, so it's okay.
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Once again, Bill Clinton is not running for president and Hillary has not been accused of groping anyone.

Those are the choices.

Somebody who has not talked about groping or groped anyone.

And somebody who has. And who is also an incredible asshole of the highest order.

Take your pick.
 
Trausti said:
GenesisNemesis said:
You said it's emasculating to not speak of women in that manner. Do you understand your own fucking words you type? Fuck off.
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You've never talked about women with your friends, ever? But yet you can jump right to "fuck off" on a discussion board. Well done, GN, well done.
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While I have talked about my exploits in crude and vulgar manners, never once did me or my friends talk about forcing ourselves on women. And I never needed to exaggerate.

As for married women, I always declined offers of sex from them. I never felt the need to be unfaithful. Nor do I need to stick my penis into every beautiful woman who offers. As for my testosterone levels. They are high normal.
 
"Hey we are just boys talking like boys."

"Hey we're just whites talking like whites. What's wrong with you?"
 
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When Billy Bush said "get out of the way shorty" for some woman in front of the soap actress I thought of this:



also this skit compilation:

 
I think the main parties are using Weapons of Mass Distraction to divert attention from the bigger issues such as the restructuring the economy so as to avoid the spiraling debs, a cost effective healthcare expanded to cover poorer Americans without further borrowing and to stop disrupting areas such as the Middle East where it has achieved the reverse of its intentions.

Hence we get the escapades of Bill Clinton in the White House and supposedly others, which were managed to reduce the damage, but he was so likable that he was elected anyway with a huge women's vote. Then we get the Trump supposedly calling someone overweight (when they were for the purpose of modelling) or Ms Piggy or Ms Housekeeping.

So the issues are now relating to where Bill put his pecker and where Trump would like to have put it. However being a billionaire, I'm sure that he had several choices for that. These are irrelevant compared to the real issues

Are these really important when there are much larger issues at hand.

Take the Government Debt (also called 'Public Debt) where each government has borrowed non-stop.
During the last government, Obama Care was launched which in principle is an excellent idea. However, this was funded by borrowing and not cost effective management. For lessons on cost control the US can consult Cuba or previous members of the former Libyan government where this was totally free.

Illegal immigration should be an issue because it will add to the economic problems and the reason countries have always had borders was for security and to allow those legally allowed to enter by way of work visas, marriage and granted citizenship.

Effective 15 December 2015, the Debt increased by US$7.8 trillion dollars. over an approximately 7 year period. This works out to a borrowing rate around US$3506.00 per second.
 
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