Trump falls!! Hurt too

[pood]

Little Marco Rubio is telling the folks that the Hand of God deflected the bullet that nearly killed Trump. How many of the folks do you think will believe just that?

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

And Trump is also a viable threat to the US and our democracy. That isn't a false statement.

Orange Hitler cultivates a cult of hate and ignorance. He also attracts people who suffer from worship syndrome like those idiots who attend those rallies. But ultimately Orange Hitler wants only money. He wants to build casinos, towers, hotels and golf courses anywhere on the planet so he can make money. That's why he always talks nice about foreign dictators. Democracy and laws are just obstacles to be overcome in that quest for wealth.

 

[pood]

God can’t be bothered saving school kids, though …

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

Little Marco Rubio is telling the folks that the Hand of God deflected the bullet that nearly killed Trump. How many of the folks do you think will believe just that?

Only a few tens of millions.

 

[Elixir]

And Trump is also a viable threat to the US and our democracy. That isn't a false statement.

Orange Hitler cultivates a cult of hate and ignorance. He also attracts people who suffer from worship syndrome like those idiots who attend those rallies. But ultimately Orange Hitler wants only money. He wants to build casinos, towers, hotels and golf courses anywhere on the planet so he can make money. That's why he always talks nice about foreign dictators. Democracy and laws are just obstacles to be overcome in that quest for wealth.

There's a new urgency though. If he loses and can't get his loss overturned, stolen or the government overthrown, he will spend the rest of his life imprisoned. So now, there is literally no measure too desperate for him. If he gets his hands on nukes he WILL use them if he deems it necessary to keep himself in power.

 

[TSwizzle]

Wonderful. Don't you think it would be less harmful to refute a well-argued statement made by a president, rather than trying to debunk broad generalizations that only serve to dehumanize people? Biases will prevent people from caring when someone simply says, "That's not true!" to such sweeping statements.

For instance, people might argue that Biden's remarks about Trump supporters are incorrect, but then the focus shifts to the negative aspects within that group. However, as you've demonstrated, focusing on the Heritage Foundation as the issue provides a specific (especially when citing their own documents), tangible point for people to investigate. Making it harder to twist into a general attack on a group of people. It would be up to the people to decide whether said Heritage/Project 2025 is the threat the president claims it to be.

You would think that presidents would choose their words responsibly and make actual arguments whether you agree with their arguments or not.

Good grief, what on earth are you blathering on about? Brandon and the dems have a long history of howling about "how Trump threatens our very democracy". The Project 2025 is just one of many crank think tanks that the conspiracy theorists and fearmongers have recently latched onto and you obsess about it. You're not the only one. And Brandon has been banging on about Project 2025 as if it is Trump's manifesto. It's not.

Where did I obsess about it? Could you please refrain from making false claims about me and my interests? Just because you've heard others mention the Heritage project doesn't mean I'm making the same argument as those others you heard it from. I'm not even arguing that Project 2025 is a threat and if you'd take the moment to fucking ask me, I'd agree that it is not.

Then don't bring it up.

 

[Elixir]

Then don't bring it up.

Why not? Of course IT isn't a threat; the maroons pushing it are the threat.
They are the same people with Project 47.
Another "non-threat" that should give anyone who values individual rights the creeps.

Agenda 47 and Project 2025 share many themes and policies, including expanding presidential power such as through reissuing Schedule F,, cuts to the Department of Education, mass deportations, death penalty for drug dealers, and using the national guard in liberal-led cities.

Trump overtly promotes it.

 

[Jarhyn]

I don't know if they can determine in 3D space where the bullet is in that image.

The depressing thing is the shooter probably had enough time to think he did it as Trump went down.

They can determine in 3d space where the bullet is in that image from the reverse trajectory from the final impact of the bullet.

 

[ZiprHead]

Little Marco Rubio is telling the folks that the Hand of God deflected the bullet that nearly killed Trump. How many of the folks do you think will believe just that?

So god directed the bullet to kill the firefighter and gravely wound two others?

 

[Derec]

Little Marco Rubio is telling the folks that the Hand of God deflected the bullet that nearly killed Trump. How many of the folks do you think will believe just that?

I thought Diego Maradona died.

 

[TSwizzle]

Well there is Project 47 which is possibly worse that

Is there something specific?

The Heritage/Project 2025 is fearmongering bullshit and now you are peddling it.

really? I mean sure, it’s bulshit but it’s very much their plan.

More fearmongering.

And if I were Trump, I’d be worried that they would find a way to ensure he’s removed from office if he deviates at all (he’s slipping cognitively would be the obvious because of the underlying truth but he has a lot of health problems)

Having almost getting his head blown off I think Trump has greater things to worry about than some crank think tank's bullshit.

 

[Toni]

Well there is Project 47 which is possibly worse that

Is there something specific?

The Heritage/Project 2025 is fearmongering bullshit and now you are peddling it.

really? I mean sure, it’s bulshit but it’s very much their plan.

More fearmongering.

And if I were Trump, I’d be worried that they would find a way to ensure he’s removed from office if he deviates at all (he’s slipping cognitively would be the obvious because of the underlying truth but he has a lot of health problems)

Having almost getting his head blown off I think Trump has greater things to worry about than some crank think tank's bullshit.

Why do you think Project 2025/Heritage/Project 47 are bullshit? I fully believe that the people running those organizations fully intend to implement as much as they possibly can.

Trump did not nearly get his head blown off. He got a minor injury, unlike the man who died protecting his family or the other people who were seriously injured--or the shooter himself who died.

I'm not making light of the attempt on Trump's life but his injuries were minor and he'll make as much hay as possible off of it. I mean, they had the photo shot all lined up, ready to do. How fortuitous.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Ready for some pragmatic political depression? The second you bring up Heritage Foundation, you've lost the voter. Making sound and coherent messages doesn't mean you've madea compelling argument to win a vote.

So, you prefer a foolish and misguided America, fearing the loss of freedoms, over the land of the free and the home of the brave, where we stand strong against the foolish and misguided?

Did I misspell sigh?

 

[TSwizzle]

Well there is Project 47 which is possibly worse that

Is there something specific?

The Heritage/Project 2025 is fearmongering bullshit and now you are peddling it.

really? I mean sure, it’s bulshit but it’s very much their plan.

More fearmongering.

And if I were Trump, I’d be worried that they would find a way to ensure he’s removed from office if he deviates at all (he’s slipping cognitively would be the obvious because of the underlying truth but he has a lot of health problems)

Having almost getting his head blown off I think Trump has greater things to worry about than some crank think tank's bullshit.

Why do you think Project 2025/Heritage/Project 47 are bullshit? I fully believe that the people running those organizations fully intend to implement as much as they possibly can.

I said Heritage Project 2025 is fearmongering bullshit. I never said anything about project 47.

Trump did not nearly get his head blown off.

It was only a matter of inches and Trump would have been killed so yes, he nearly did get his head blown off.

I'm not making light of the attempt on Trump's life but his injuries were minor and he'll make as much hay as possible off of it. I mean, they had the photo shot all lined up, ready to do. How fortuitous.

Jeezus, this place is just awash with conspiracy theory bullshit these days.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Well there is Project 47 which is possibly worse that

Is there something specific?

The Heritage/Project 2025 is fearmongering bullshit and now you are peddling it.

really? I mean sure, it’s bulshit but it’s very much their plan.

More fearmongering.

And if I were Trump, I’d be worried that they would find a way to ensure he’s removed from office if he deviates at all (he’s slipping cognitively would be the obvious because of the underlying truth but he has a lot of health problems)

Having almost getting his head blown off I think Trump has greater things to worry about than some crank think tank's bullshit.

Why do you think Project 2025/Heritage/Project 47 are bullshit? I fully believe that the people running those organizations fully intend to implement as much as they possibly can.

Trump did not nearly get his head blown off. He got a minor injury, unlike the man who died protecting his family or the other people who were seriously injured--or the shooter himself who died.

I'm not making light of the attempt on Trump's life but his injuries were minor and he'll make as much hay as possible off of it. I mean, they had the photo shot all lined up, ready to do. How fortuitous.

How lucky! The image was taken at 1/8000 sec according to photographer. Capturing the bullet would need to press the shutter before the shot was heard. You'd need a machine to do that.

JFK is the reason the photographer was even there at another meaningless campaign rally.

 

[Tigers!]

My point is not about the truthfulness of the statement. The point is I believe the president of the USA should provide the American people with useful information, rather than making a blanket statement like "MAGA supporters are horrible people."

He obviously paid too much attention to Hilary C re. her deplorable statement.

 

[Tigers!]

The attempt to take President Trump's life is utterly reprehensible, appalling, disgusting, and incredibly stupid.

With the obvious being said, I'm going to rant so you can stop reading here if you wish.

We should hold individuals responsible for their actions and rhetoric, instead of blaming groups based on factors like party affiliation, race, religion, gender, or socioeconomic status when tragedies happen. For example when an individual that is registered as a Democrat says something out of pocket we should be naming that individual and not talking about democrat's in general, the same applies if the individual is registered as republican.

For example: One can make the argument that "Thomas Matthew Crooks may have had mental health issues and misunderstood President Joe Biden's statement, "Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic." Instead, some seem to be perpetuating division and misunderstanding by focusing on party lines (but the Dems!, but the Reps!) and implying that Crooks had the support of an entire group based on his party affiliation.

I personally take issue with politicians focusing on groups rather than the ideas they push. However, if we must categorize people into groups, it would be more accurate to name actual organizations like the Heritage Foundation and what their agenda is. Not all registered Republicans support that foundation, at least not knowingly. The same can be said about liberal organizations, such as BLM. As a liberal, I understand their perspective, but I disagree with the leadership (or lack thereof), their agenda, and how they have implemented or failed to implement it, despite some successes (which is another discussion for another time).

In my opinion, this approach is less likely to dehumanize the broader population by not dividing them into the simplistic Blood VS Crips.

Sorry, I had to get that off my chest.

Gospel you really need to stop talking sense. You will be banned.

 

[Tigers!]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I haven't bought into the idea that Americans are stupid.

Mostly with you but then I remember the 2016 election and the 1980&1984 elections…

Careful your slip is showing.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The alternative is an epic blunder by the Secret Service.

If anyone with Secret Service protection gets injured or killed by an assassin, there must have been an epic blunder by the Secret Service.

They had ONE job.

Disagree. To date the US has only faced pretty incompetent assassins. The Secret Service should be able to stop them. However, that doesn't mean that they will succeed against a sufficiently skilled and financed assassin. It's not a blunder if the assassin is a couple of miles away with a laser designator guiding in a Hellfire round. (However, there's no ground-launch variant of the Hellfire.)

 

[SLD]