Trump proposes to reorganize the government

[starwater]

Part of the reorganization plan

Apparently, this has been going on for months and part of the plan is to:

"Heritage recommended that all nutrition functions at USDA — including food stamps, nutrition education and school meal programs that serve some 30 million children each day — be transferred to HHS."

Sounds like a huge cluster to me, tons of confusion and more red tape instead of less.

 

[braces_for_impact]

I suddenly feel very suspicious.

 

[Underseer]

I suddenly feel very suspicious.

Why the trepidation?

A few rich people will get richer, and millions of Trump voters will get less in food stamps.

Other than lots of innocent, non-fascist poor people starving, it sounds like a win-win to me!

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Part of the reorganization plan

Apparently, this has been going on for months and part of the plan is to:

"Heritage recommended that all nutrition functions at USDA — including food stamps, nutrition education and school meal programs that serve some 30 million children each day — be transferred to HHS."

Sounds like a huge cluster to me, tons of confusion and more red tape instead of less.

While it sounds like a good idea to put them under HHS rather than USDA I wouldn't trust him to get it one bit right.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

“You have low-income assistance in a bunch of different shops without one point of oversight and without a whole lot of communication,” said one of the people with knowledge of the plan. “Why not have one federal agency responsible for execution?”

Apparently as long as the same department is managing a program, the cost of overseeing it disappears. This sounds like one of those, good ideas that evaporate once you think about 5 seconds about it.

 

[starwater]

It's just another devious way to cut funding for food stamps and helping the poor.

 

[Elixir]

A few rich people will get richer, and millions of Trump voters will get less in food stamps.

Sadly, most of those trumpsuckers will feel well-fed, knowing that they can shout "nigger!" in public. They'll vote for him AGAIN if given the chance.

 

[Bronzeage]

It's an interesting strategy for long term conservative goals, since elimination of the Department of Agriculture and the Department of Health and Human Services, is on the neo-con agenda.

One of the reasons food aid was given to the DofA, was to consume farm surpluses without flooding the market. It's an idea that never really worked. After all, how much unprocessed corn or soybeans can one family consume in a year?

What this looks like is a plan to consolidate all "entitlement" programs in one department. This leaves the DofA as a client of large Agra-industry and little else. Congress can then whittle away at DofA power to regulate, and no one will complain. When the budget is cut, there won't be any photos of children eating paste for breakfast because it's the only thing in the house.

Health and Human Services will get the same treatment because, why should the government feed poor children when paste is so cheap?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

“You have low-income assistance in a bunch of different shops without one point of oversight and without a whole lot of communication,” said one of the people with knowledge of the plan. “Why not have one federal agency responsible for execution?”

Apparently as long as the same department is managing a program, the cost of overseeing it disappears. This sounds like one of those, good ideas that evaporate once you think about 5 seconds about it.

If you have one manager instead of many it will be cheaper. It is one of the things I don't like about our welfare system. There's a lot of duplicated effort and the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

It's an interesting strategy for long term conservative goals, since elimination of the Department of Agriculture and the Department of Health and Human Services, is on the neo-con agenda.

One of the reasons food aid was given to the DofA, was to consume farm surpluses without flooding the market. It's an idea that never really worked. After all, how much unprocessed corn or soybeans can one family consume in a year?

What this looks like is a plan to consolidate all "entitlement" programs in one department. This leaves the DofA as a client of large Agra-industry and little else. Congress can then whittle away at DofA power to regulate, and no one will complain. When the budget is cut, there won't be any photos of children eating paste for breakfast because it's the only thing in the house.

Once welfare is taken away from them how much useful work will the DofA do?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

“You have low-income assistance in a bunch of different shops without one point of oversight and without a whole lot of communication,” said one of the people with knowledge of the plan. “Why not have one federal agency responsible for execution?”

Apparently as long as the same department is managing a program, the cost of overseeing it disappears. This sounds like one of those, good ideas that evaporate once you think about 5 seconds about it.

If you have one manager instead of many it will be cheaper. It is one of the things I don't like about our welfare system. There's a lot of duplicated effort and the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.

One person can’t manage $80 billion in spending!

 

[Toni]

Part of the reorganization plan

Apparently, this has been going on for months and part of the plan is to:

"Heritage recommended that all nutrition functions at USDA — including food stamps, nutrition education and school meal programs that serve some 30 million children each day — be transferred to HHS."

Sounds like a huge cluster to me, tons of confusion and more red tape instead of less.

While it sounds like a good idea to put them under HHS rather than USDA I wouldn't trust him to get it one bit right.

Why does it sound like a good idea?

 

[Underseer]

“You have low-income assistance in a bunch of different shops without one point of oversight and without a whole lot of communication,” said one of the people with knowledge of the plan. “Why not have one federal agency responsible for execution?”

Apparently as long as the same department is managing a program, the cost of overseeing it disappears. This sounds like one of those, good ideas that evaporate once you think about 5 seconds about it.

If you have one manager instead of many it will be cheaper. It is one of the things I don't like about our welfare system. There's a lot of duplicated effort and the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.

What do you even know about the welfare system?

Most of the bureaucracy is dedicated to making sure none of the recipients aren't people who don't need help or otherwise don't qualify for the help.

And of course most of the cuts made by your fellow fascists are made to the very bureaucrats whose work reduces fraud, and the cuts are made in the name of "cutting out the fat."

It's an interesting strategy for long term conservative goals, since elimination of the Department of Agriculture and the Department of Health and Human Services, is on the neo-con agenda.

One of the reasons food aid was given to the DofA, was to consume farm surpluses without flooding the market. It's an idea that never really worked. After all, how much unprocessed corn or soybeans can one family consume in a year?

What this looks like is a plan to consolidate all "entitlement" programs in one department. This leaves the DofA as a client of large Agra-industry and little else. Congress can then whittle away at DofA power to regulate, and no one will complain. When the budget is cut, there won't be any photos of children eating paste for breakfast because it's the only thing in the house.

Once welfare is taken away from them how much useful work will the DofA do?

What, you think kicking that bed-ridden granny to the curb is going to cause her to work more?

Are you sure this isn't about stepping on the necks of others because it makes you feel superior?

 

[Underseer]

Anyway, back to the original topic, let's let the moron traitor who defends Nazis tinker with the way our government works. What could possibly go wrong?

 

[ideologyhunter]

It may be urban legend, but hasn't Kim secured a contract to sell us school lunch meat -- that is, textured, dried meat product from the Korean hinterlands, with tattoos removed?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

If you have one manager instead of many it will be cheaper. It is one of the things I don't like about our welfare system. There's a lot of duplicated effort and the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.

What do you even know about the welfare system?

Most of the bureaucracy is dedicated to making sure none of the recipients aren't people who don't need help or otherwise don't qualify for the help.

And of course most of the cuts made by your fellow fascists are made to the very bureaucrats whose work reduces fraud, and the cuts are made in the name of "cutting out the fat."

I'm not saying to cut welfare.

As you say, most of the bureaucracy is dedicated to weeding out the ineligible. One program instead of many means less effort needs to be expended on figuring that out.

It's an interesting strategy for long term conservative goals, since elimination of the Department of Agriculture and the Department of Health and Human Services, is on the neo-con agenda.

One of the reasons food aid was given to the DofA, was to consume farm surpluses without flooding the market. It's an idea that never really worked. After all, how much unprocessed corn or soybeans can one family consume in a year?

What this looks like is a plan to consolidate all "entitlement" programs in one department. This leaves the DofA as a client of large Agra-industry and little else. Congress can then whittle away at DofA power to regulate, and no one will complain. When the budget is cut, there won't be any photos of children eating paste for breakfast because it's the only thing in the house.

Once welfare is taken away from them how much useful work will the DofA do?

What, you think kicking that bed-ridden granny to the curb is going to cause her to work more?

Are you sure this isn't about stepping on the necks of others because it makes you feel superior?

You seem to have utterly misunderstood. I'm saying if welfare is moved from DofA to HHS how much useful work would the DofA be doing?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I'm not saying to cut welfare.

As you say, most of the bureaucracy is dedicated to weeding out the ineligible. One program instead of many means less effort needs to be expended on figuring that out.

Less, maybe, but how much less? $80 billion in spending will cost money to manage.

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It may be urban legend, but hasn't Kim secured a contract to sell us school lunch meat -- that is, textured, dried meat product from the Korean hinterlands, with tattoos removed?

That is an urban legend... as North Koreans have no meat on their bones.

Oh Mom... Koreans again for dinner?

 

[ideologyhunter]

Damn, but they're chewy.

 

[Crowcause]

Quote Originally Posted by article
“You have low-income assistance in a bunch of different shops without one point of oversight and without a whole lot of communication,” said one of the people with knowledge of the plan. “Why not have one federal agency responsible for execution?”

That last sentence as a separate thought is unnerving, considering all else that's happening.

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

A lot of SNAP, WIC school lunch etc programs are operated by and administered by the states. Texas health And Human Services takes care of dealing with the public. Not federal employees. If this ends up being something that takes away from the states to put a federal bureaucracy in charge, there could be a state rights vs big government fight. Or possibly we have the opposite, states get more problems but not more money.

The problem of small government ideology being implemented. Or worse yet, some bastard mix of both. Lots of devils in the many details to be announced.