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Trump supporters vs. Rep. Liz Cheney

To think; all she had to do was smuggle a 17 year old over state lines for sex or rant about Jewish Space Lasers and McCarthy would have had her back.
 
She is declaring war on Trump. Being a Cheney provides her to significant resources.

Trump is running up against the Cheney's, Romney's, and Bush's. So far, he has won, in a sort. I don't think anyone cares about Trump, but they want to take the reins on the horse he was on. The Fascist GOP is steadily heading in the very wrong direction. Biden is trying to right an economy, which is now suffering from shortage induced inflation, during a pandemic and the GOP is whining about socialism, as if Marx and Biden were drinking buddies... which they weren't. Biden couldn't just sail over to Europe for a round.
 
The only advice I have for the GOP is to start listening to brown people again. Cause the white ones seem to have lost it. IIRC, the republicans are the ones that went to war for my freedom & made the right call in allowing black people to join in the war. Let us do it again, but this time to help right the ship without violence. Stop allowing white supremacists to take you off message and get back on the actual battlefield. We need modern policies for a modern world. Not the old racist white America one, but the one where China (nation of billions) & India (nation of billions) is a problem, and good economic policy that will encourage growth without (racial-class-education)boundaries is the solution. This ain't the cold war Russian world or any of that biblical bullshit stirred by the Isreal/Arab world either. Yeah, elements of both of those still exist; in a convoluted state but it ain't the conquest era anymore. We need modern policies! Capitalism needs to be in the god damned mechanic's shop right now, the GOP gotta catch its tail so they can wake up and see they've gotten nowhere & the Democrats need to stop gambling with fiat currency. Military power won't protect you from poor judgment and a population taking a shit on each other's morale around every corner. We're at a point where the words "work together" are less welcome than "fuck off".

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From Trump himself:

From the Desk of Donald J. Trump: The Republicans in the House of Representatives have a… | Donald J. Trump
The Republicans in the House of Representatives have a great opportunity today to rid themselves of a poor leader, a major Democrat talking point, a warmonger, and a person with absolutely no personality or heart. As a representative of the Great State of Wyoming, Liz Cheney is bad for our Country and bad for herself. Almost everyone in the Republican Party, including 90% of Wyoming, looks forward to her ouster—and that includes me!
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From the Desk of Donald J. Trump: Liz Cheney is a bitter, horrible human being. I watched… | Donald J. Trump
Liz Cheney is a bitter, horrible human being. I watched her yesterday and realized how bad she is for the Republican Party. She has no personality or anything good having to do with politics or our Country. She is a talking point for Democrats, whether that means the Border, the gas lines, inflation, or destroying our economy. She is a warmonger whose family stupidly pushed us into the never-ending Middle East Disaster, draining our wealth and depleting our Great Military, the worst decision in our Country’s history. I look forward to soon watching her as a Paid Contributor on CNN or MSDNC!
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Trump reposted an image capture of
Sean Hannity on Twitter: "@RepLizCheney hope your enjoying being embraced & praised by Dems and media mob, the same people that called your dad a “War Criminal”, convicted Scooter Libby & tried to destroy your father over his work w/ Halliburton. Counting the days until your new friends return to normal." / Twitter
 
Gospel said:
The only advice I have for the GOP is to start listening to brown people again.
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Not a bad idea. But the best idea for the GOP is to start listening to ME. And that's equally likely.
I don't know what they're "for" (other than wealth inequality and white supremacy), but I know what they're against and it includes brown people and me.
 
House GOP elects Elise Stefanik to replace Liz Cheney as conference chair
"The vote for Stefanik was conducted by secret ballot. The final tally was 134-46."

Fun fact: both women's names are diminutives of "Elizabeth". Meaning, origin and history of the name Elizabeth - Behind the Name

I recall from some recent article that ES wanted the Republican Party to reconsider abortion, but I can't find that article.

Trump himself:

From the Desk of Donald J. Trump: Can’t imagine Republican House Members would go with Chip Roy—he has not done a great job, and will probably be successfully primaried in his own district. I support Elise, by far, over Chip! Donald J. Trump

From the Desk of Donald J. Trump: Congratulations to Elise Stefanik for her Big and Overwhelming victory! The House GOP is united and the Make America Great Again movement is Strong! | Donald J. Trump
 
Worldtraveller said:
(one of) the irony(s) being that Cheney voted for trump's shit more than her replacement.
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That is irony and frightening, because again, that indicates there is no thinking at all involved. It is all wildly emotional and hyper-partisan. Cheney spoke out about Trump's most egregious crime in his Presidency that even had VP Pence needing substantial security from Trump's supporters.

Cheney is a solid conservative, very partisan. It meant nothing because she said the President be naked... when his ass was flapping in the wind. And they replaced her with someone currently in favor with Trump because she said favorable things about Trump.
 
Gospel said:
... the republicans are the ones that went to war for my freedom ...

... the Democrats need to stop gambling with fiat currency....
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I approve of your rant, but have two nitpicks.

(1) Crediting the modern GOP with the Emancipation of the Slaves makes about as much sense as blaming the present government of Greece for the poisoning of Socrates.

(2) If you're blaming deficits on the D's you've got it precisely BACKWARDS. Recall that the D's under Clinton "walked the plank" in 1993, raised taxes and successfully balanced the budget, and then paid the price for this in the 1994 elections. The R's under G.W. Bush turned right around and reduced taxes, sending the debt soaring to unprecedented levels. Obama also made some progress on deficit reduction; again the R's, this time under Trump, cut taxes and caused debt to soar more, now ten times what it was under Reagan. The R's have been playing a game, deliberately hiking deficits to "starve the beast" in order to claim that infrastructure repair or even a minimal safety-net is now fiscally impossible.
 
Elixir said:
Gospel said:
The only advice I have for the GOP is to start listening to brown people again.
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Not a bad idea. But the best idea for the GOP is to start listening to ME. And that's equally likely.
I don't know what they're "for" (other than wealth inequality and white supremacy), but I know what they're against and it includes brown people and me.
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I didn't say to only listen to brown people. :)
 
Swammerdami said:
Gospel said:
... the republicans are the ones that went to war for my freedom ...

... the Democrats need to stop gambling with fiat currency....
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I approve of your rant, but have two nitpicks.

(1) Crediting the modern GOP with the Emancipation of the Slaves makes about as much sense as blaming the present government of Greece for the poisoning of Socrates.

(2) If you're blaming deficits on the D's you've got it precisely BACKWARDS. Recall that the D's under Clinton "walked the plank" in 1993, raised taxes and successfully balanced the budget, and then paid the price for this in the 1994 elections. The R's under G.W. Bush turned right around and reduced taxes, sending the debt soaring to unprecedented levels. Obama also made some progress on deficit reduction; again the R's, this time under Trump, cut taxes and caused debt to soar more, now ten times what it was under Reagan. The R's have been playing a game, deliberately hiking deficits to "starve the beast" in order to claim that infrastructure repair or even a minimal safety-net is now fiscally impossible.
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Those are reasonable nitpicks, however, I didn't state that the Democrats held a monopoly on being fiscally irresponsible. I also didn't intend to say that each current living member of the GOP was there to free the slaves, I was talking about the history of the party.
 
Republicans do listen to brown people.

They are basically a political arm of corporate power.

If you are brown and a CEO a Republican will listen to you.

Of course if you are a CEO you have a certain mindset. You have been carefully selected because you have that mindset.
 
Opinion | Liz Cheney Refuses to Lie, So Elise Stefanik Steps Up - The New York Times
About LC:
With her establishment pedigree and her neocon foreign policy views, Ms. Cheney may not be a perfect fit for today’s Republican Party, but she is a rock-ribbed conservative who has for years fought fiercely in the party trenches. Like her father, former Vice President Dick Cheney, she is tough and aggressive, and she delights in lobbing partisan bombs at Democrats. She is pro-torture and anti-abortion. In other words, she has long been the kind of Republican that Democrats love to hate.
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About ES and her becoming a hardcore Trumpie:
But before all that, Ms. Stefanik was seen as an exemplar of the kinder, gentler future of the Republican Party. Elected in 2014 at age 30, the polished, media-savvy Harvard alumna was a fresh, friendly, moderate face that many hoped would help the G.O.P. shed its image as a bunch of angry old white guys. Pro-business and uninterested in culture warring, she fit in well with the party’s establishment wing. Her first political job was in the Bush 43 White House. In 2017, she was elected co-chair of the Tuesday Group (since renamed the Republican Governance Group), a caucus of moderate, centrist House Republicans.

Ms. Stefanik’s voting record reflects this brand. She has a measly 44 percent lifetime score from the American Conservative Union — compared to Ms. Cheney’s 78 percent — and a 56 percent from the conservative Heritage Action, versus Ms. Cheney’s 82 percent. Ms. Stefanik’s ratings from conservative groups like FreedomWorks and the Club for Growth are even lower (37 percent and 35 percent), and both organizations have come out against her joining leadership. During Mr. Trump’s presidency, Ms. Stefanik voted with him 77.7 percent of the time, according to FiveThirtyEight, but Ms. Cheney did 92.9 percent of the time.

One of Ms. Stefanik’s top priorities has been to improve her party’s image with women and, more specifically, to get more Republican women elected. Her PAC is credited with having contributed to the victories of several women in this year’s freshman House class. Her efforts, which can run up against the G.O.P.’s professed disdain for identity politics, have occasionally put off some party brethren.

Ms. Stefanik is, in short, the kind of Republican that conservatives generally love to hate.
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That is, a RINO, a Republican In Name Only, a rhinoceros, a sort of fake elephant.
Despite the seal of approval from Mr. Trump and some congressional leaders, not everyone is thrilled by the idea of Ms. Stefanik’s likely promotion. Some of her male colleagues have grumped that they were not even considered for the post because of their gender. The conference vice chair, Mike Johnson of Louisiana, has reportedly been griping about the “coronation.”

Trickier still, some hard-core MAGA loyalists suspect Ms. Stefanik of being a pretender — a “wolf in sheep’s clothing,” as one far-right site put it — and are raising a stink about her voting record and political background. Lou Dobbs, the deep-MAGA former TV host, declared her a RINO — that is, a Republican in name only. Her more creative critics at the website Revolver coined a fresh term for her: TINO — Trumpist in name only. They also dubbed her “another neocon establishment twit.”
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Opinion | Elise Stefanik Is Playing a Dangerous Game With Her Career - The New York Times
The reality is that Ms. Stefanik has always been a shape-shifter, driven more by the political zeitgeist than any strongly rooted ideology.

... Her ambition, a trait for which her male colleagues are frequently praised, sparked routine — and frankly sexist — comparisons to Reese Witherspoon’s cutthroat student politician character Tracy Flick in the 1999 film “Election.”

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Ms. Stefanik ran as a self-described “independent voice,” even though she was strongly backed by the national G.O.P. — from the House speaker at the time, John Boehner, on down.
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She took party-line conservative positions, like on abortion, taxes, guns, and Obamacare.
She also ran on an anti-establishment platform — declaring that she understood “firsthand that Washington is broken” (sound familiar?) — despite the fact that she was steeped in the establishment. She previously served in George W. Bush’s White House and was a campaign adviser for the former vice-presidential candidate and House Speaker Paul Ryan.
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Though ES was considering a challenge to NY Gov Andrew Cuomo in 2022, Rep. Lee Zeldin is emerging as the party favorite.

Then talking about the moving leftward of former Governor George Pataki (R) and US Senator Kirsten Gillibrand. ES may be out of place as a hard-core Trumpie.
 
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