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Trump VS COVID-19 Threat

Lawmakers already planning more coronavirus stimulus after $2T package | TheHill
Lawmakers are already planning another round of legislation aimed at keeping companies flush with capital and millions of workers on payrolls amid the coronavirus pandemic, even after passing a $2 trillion relief bill this past week, the largest stimulus of its kind in U.S. history.

The Senate plans to be on recess until April 20, and the House will take an extended break as well, though members say they could return sooner depending on how the economy reacts in the next few weeks

Wake up America, it's profits over people to some | TheHill - by Ana Kasparian
Part of the problem is that these health officials seem to think that Trump and the rest of the talking heads making these public declarations don’t know that they’re putting peoples’ lives at risk.

They know. They just don’t care.

When Texas’ Republican lieutenant governor Dan Patrick suggested that the elderly go back to work to save the economy, he knew they’d be risking their lives to do so. “Those of us who are 70 plus, we’ll take care of ourselves. But don’t sacrifice the country,” said Patrick, pretending as if he’d actually put himself in harm’s way to go back to work.
Dan Patrick is joined by Brit Hume, Glenn Beck, and others.
The federal government’s response to this crisis is riddled with death and heartbreaking examples of corporate greed. The latest victim of our broken system was a 17-year-old coronavirus patient in California, who was turned away at urgent care because he didn’t have health insurance. He later went into cardiac arrest and died.

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But over the last year, while the popularity of a single-payer health care system was proven popular among Americans in study after study, corporate media insisted that voters absolutely loved their employer-provided health insurance and didn’t want to lose it in return for something more stable and robust like "Medicare for All."
There's a third alternative: private insurance companies whose coverage is not tied to their clients' employment. But that does not seem very popular.
 

I think Pelosi is standing in criticizing the president because poor Biden just isn't getting his message through.

He's been mostly absent through this debacle, and when he finally surfaces, he takes all those rumors of cognitive decline and add credence to them.

Now he has started the slow drip of more sexual accusers as well. This is exactly why is said he can't beat Trump. He's going to get annilated if there's a debate. This is all going to continue. The only way I can see Trump getting bested is that Trump beats himself by doing such a poor job fighting this pandemic. Which he unfortunately WILL do, because he's incapable of being halfway competent.

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Lawmakers already planning more coronavirus stimulus after $2T package | TheHill

California governor: 170 ventilators sent from Trump administration were 'not working' | TheHill

Pelosi on Trump's coronavirus response: 'As the President fiddles, people are dying' - CNNPolitics
As US cases surge, Pelosi questioned when Trump was informed about the coronavirus and his knowledge on its potential impact. "I don't know what the scientists said to him, when did this President know about this, and what did he know? What did he know and when did he know it? That's for an after-action review. But as the President fiddles, people are dying. And we just have to take every precaution."

Asked by Tapper if she believes Trump's downplaying of the crisis has cost American lives, Pelosi responded, "Yes, I am. I'm saying that."

"Because when he made the other day when he was signing the bill, he said just think 20 days ago everything was great. No, everything wasn't great," she said. "We had nearly 500 cases and 17 deaths already. And in that 20 days because we weren't prepared, we now have 2,000 deaths and 100,000 cases."

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When asked about Trump suggesting he wants to relax social distancing guidelines in parts of the country, Pelosi said, "His delaying of getting equipment to where it -- it continues his delay in getting equipment to where it's needed, is deadly. And now I think the best thing would be to do is to prevent more loss of life rather than open things up, because we just don't know."

• Chart: Coronavirus: Upward Trajectory or Flattened Curve? | Statista - the US is worse than the rest of the world, including Italy and China.

I'm not surprised. We are the fattest people on the planet. We have the worse immume system because we're too fat, don't exercise, drink too much, don't eat well, and don't get enough sleep. No bueno!
 
UK's Johnson: 'We know things will get worse before they get better' | TheHill - at least he's honest about that

Death toll in Spain rises by record 838 in one day | TheHill

Marco Rubio on Twitter: "Some in our media can’t contain their glee & delight in reporting that the U.S. has more #CoronaVirus cases than #China
Beyond being grotesque,its bad journalism
We have NO IDEA how many cases China really has but without any doubt its significantly more than why they admit to" / Twitter

Something that goes both ways.

The coronavirus is the worst intelligence failure in US history | Micah Zenko | Opinion | The Guardian
Last September, I met the vice-president for risk for a Fortune 100 company in Washington DC. I asked the executive – who previously had a long career as an intelligence analyst – the question you would ask any risk officer: “What are you most worried about?” Without pausing, this person replied, “A highly contagious virus that begins somewhere in China and spreads rapidly.” This vice-president, whose company has offices throughout east Asia, explained the preventive mitigating steps the company had subsequently adopted to counter this potential threat.

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Suffice it to say, the Trump administration has cumulatively failed, both in taking seriously the specific, repeated intelligence community warnings about a coronavirus outbreak and in vigorously pursuing the nationwide response initiatives commensurate with the predicted threat. ...

In short, the Trump administration forced a catastrophic strategic surprise onto the American people. But unlike past strategic surprises – Pearl Harbor, the Iranian revolution of 1979, or especially 9/11 – the current one was brought about by unprecedented indifference, even willful negligence.

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First, there is the fact that once he believes absolutely anything – no matter how poorly thought-out, ill-informed or inaccurate – he remains completely anchored to that initial impression or judgment.

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Second, Trump’s judgments are highly transmissible, infecting the thinking and behavior of nearly every official or adviser who comes in contact with the initial carrier.

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And, third, the poor judgments soon contaminate all the policymaking arms of the federal government with almost no resistance or even reasonable questioning.
 
UK's Johnson: 'We know things will get worse before they get better' | TheHill - at least he's honest about that

Death toll in Spain rises by record 838 in one day | TheHill

Marco Rubio on Twitter: "Some in our media can’t contain their glee & delight in reporting that the U.S. has more #CoronaVirus cases than #China
Beyond being grotesque,its bad journalism
We have NO IDEA how many cases China really has but without any doubt its significantly more than why they admit to" / Twitter

Something that goes both ways.

The coronavirus is the worst intelligence failure in US history | Micah Zenko | Opinion | The Guardian
Last September, I met the vice-president for risk for a Fortune 100 company in Washington DC. I asked the executive – who previously had a long career as an intelligence analyst – the question you would ask any risk officer: “What are you most worried about?” Without pausing, this person replied, “A highly contagious virus that begins somewhere in China and spreads rapidly.” This vice-president, whose company has offices throughout east Asia, explained the preventive mitigating steps the company had subsequently adopted to counter this potential threat.

...
Suffice it to say, the Trump administration has cumulatively failed, both in taking seriously the specific, repeated intelligence community warnings about a coronavirus outbreak and in vigorously pursuing the nationwide response initiatives commensurate with the predicted threat. ...

In short, the Trump administration forced a catastrophic strategic surprise onto the American people. But unlike past strategic surprises – Pearl Harbor, the Iranian revolution of 1979, or especially 9/11 – the current one was brought about by unprecedented indifference, even willful negligence.

...
First, there is the fact that once he believes absolutely anything – no matter how poorly thought-out, ill-informed or inaccurate – he remains completely anchored to that initial impression or judgment.

...
Second, Trump’s judgments are highly transmissible, infecting the thinking and behavior of nearly every official or adviser who comes in contact with the initial carrier.

...
And, third, the poor judgments soon contaminate all the policymaking arms of the federal government with almost no resistance or even reasonable questioning.

Yep, no surprise there. Trump dosn't trust intelligence or science. Americans will pay a big price for this.
 
The missing six weeks: how Trump failed the biggest test of his life | US news | The Guardian

Starting out that on 2020 Jan 20, two cases of COVID-19 were reported, the first one in the US and the first one in South Korea. Of the two nations, South Korea has come close to stopping any further spread of the disease, while the US still suffers from exponential growth of it.

Trump's narcissism has taken a new twist. And now he has American blood on his hands | Jonathan Freedland | Opinion | The Guardian
Pity the people of America. They do battle now with one of the greatest challenges in their history, led by a man who is not only among the worst ever occupants of the White House but whose character makes him the last person on the face of the Earth you would nominate to be in charge at this moment. On Thursday the US reached the top of the global league table for coronavirus infections, edging ahead of its closest rival for that honour, China. No law of nature dictated that outcome. Much of it is directly attributable to one dreadful fact: that Donald Trump is president of the United States.

It’s become a commonplace to note Trump’s lack of basic human empathy, his tendency to be unmoved by others’ loss. But that gap in his mindset matters now far beyond an inability to offer consolation to the bereaved: it is warping his approach to a lethal disease.
Trump's response would be to say that "nobody's more empathetic than me", I'm sure.

Coronavirus map of the US: latest cases state by state | World news | The Guardian
Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center
JH CRC Map
Coronavirus Update (Live): 718,116 Cases and 33,887 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - Worldometer
 
The missing six weeks: how Trump failed the biggest test of his life | US news | The Guardian

Starting out that on 2020 Jan 20, two cases of COVID-19 were reported, the first one in the US and the first one in South Korea. Of the two nations, South Korea has come close to stopping any further spread of the disease, while the US still suffers from exponential growth of it.

Trump's narcissism has taken a new twist. And now he has American blood on his hands | Jonathan Freedland | Opinion | The Guardian
Pity the people of America. They do battle now with one of the greatest challenges in their history, led by a man who is not only among the worst ever occupants of the White House but whose character makes him the last person on the face of the Earth you would nominate to be in charge at this moment. On Thursday the US reached the top of the global league table for coronavirus infections, edging ahead of its closest rival for that honour, China. No law of nature dictated that outcome. Much of it is directly attributable to one dreadful fact: that Donald Trump is president of the United States.

It’s become a commonplace to note Trump’s lack of basic human empathy, his tendency to be unmoved by others’ loss. But that gap in his mindset matters now far beyond an inability to offer consolation to the bereaved: it is warping his approach to a lethal disease.
Trump's response would be to say that "nobody's more empathetic than me", I'm sure.

Coronavirus map of the US: latest cases state by state | World news | The Guardian
Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center
JH CRC Map
Coronavirus Update (Live): 718,116 Cases and 33,887 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - Worldometer

Yo know why Trump always says, "No one's done more than me" or "no country is better than ours" or "I'm doing the best job of any President?" It's because he has confidence. Confident people talk like that. He's always a businessman. What's the motto of business? Always be selling. Trump is constantly selling our country, himself, his administration, the people of our country, etc. It makes people happy and comforted when they hear stuff like that.

How would you react if someone was selling you something and said, "This product is good but it's not the best. Maybe you shouldn't even buy it. Go with something else. But, you can buy my product if you really want to." It sounds like the person has no confidence, right?

No one wants to hear a President say, "Well I guess I'm good but others before me were better." People would hear that and go, "What a spineless weenie."
 
The missing six weeks: how Trump failed the biggest test of his life | US news | The Guardian

Starting out that on 2020 Jan 20, two cases of COVID-19 were reported, the first one in the US and the first one in South Korea. Of the two nations, South Korea has come close to stopping any further spread of the disease, while the US still suffers from exponential growth of it.

Trump's narcissism has taken a new twist. And now he has American blood on his hands | Jonathan Freedland | Opinion | The Guardian
Pity the people of America. They do battle now with one of the greatest challenges in their history, led by a man who is not only among the worst ever occupants of the White House but whose character makes him the last person on the face of the Earth you would nominate to be in charge at this moment. On Thursday the US reached the top of the global league table for coronavirus infections, edging ahead of its closest rival for that honour, China. No law of nature dictated that outcome. Much of it is directly attributable to one dreadful fact: that Donald Trump is president of the United States.

It’s become a commonplace to note Trump’s lack of basic human empathy, his tendency to be unmoved by others’ loss. But that gap in his mindset matters now far beyond an inability to offer consolation to the bereaved: it is warping his approach to a lethal disease.
Trump's response would be to say that "nobody's more empathetic than me", I'm sure.

Coronavirus map of the US: latest cases state by state | World news | The Guardian
Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center
JH CRC Map
Coronavirus Update (Live): 718,116 Cases and 33,887 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - Worldometer

Yo know why Trump always says, "No one's done more than me" or "no country is better than ours" or "I'm doing the best job of any President?" It's because he has confidence. Confident people talk like that. He's always a businessman. What's the motto of business? Always be selling. Trump is constantly selling our country, himself, his administration, the people of our country, etc. It makes people idiots happy and comforted when they hear stuff like that.

No one wants to hear a President say, "Well I guess I'm good but others before me were better." People would hear that and go, "What a spineless weenie."

FTFY
 
Yo know why Trump always says, "No one's done more than me" or "no country is better than ours" or "I'm doing the best job of any President?" It's because he has confidence. Confident people talk like that. He's always a businessman. What's the motto of business? Always be selling. Trump is constantly selling our country, himself, his administration, the people of our country, etc. It makes people idiots happy and comforted when they hear stuff like that.

No one wants to hear a President say, "Well I guess I'm good but others before me were better." People would hear that and go, "What a spineless weenie."

FTFY

Childish. It's true. People respond better to people who speak with confidence, not to people who sound like they are second guessing themselves.

This is a common rule of life. Who would you trust more? Someone who says, "Yes, I can do that for you no problem!" or someone who says, "Gee...I don't know...maybe I can do it...*scratches head*....but I'm not completely sure...I guess I can..."
 
Childish. It's true. People respond better to people who speak with confidence, not to people who sound like they are second guessing themselves.

This is a common rule of life. Who would you trust more? Someone who says, "Yes, I can do that for you no problem!" or someone who says, "Gee...I don't know...maybe I can do it...*scratches head*....but I'm not completely sure...I guess I can..."

You need to get an education, so you can understand what a false dichotomy is. Not a single country where the coronavirus is under control has its leadership acting in either way you described. How's that for a mind fuck? Trump speaking with confidence makes him about as credible as this guy:

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But hey, at least he's doing it with confidence!
 
And the excuse for Italy's numbers rising? How often did their President play golf? I'll wait patiently for the answer.

Italy's numbers have fuck all to do with Trumps shitty mismanagement of the crisis. Hope that helps.
 
And the excuse for Italy's numbers rising? How often did their President play golf? I'll wait patiently for the answer.

Italy's numbers have fuck all to do with Trumps shitty mismanagement of the crisis. Hope that helps.

No, it shows that it's not Trump's fault. If every other country was perfectly fine and the U.S. was the only country with cases, you'd have a point.

It also doesn't help that China's been lying to us since the beginning about the virus. People claim "China is back to normal!" but the media doesn't show the riots they are having in the streets. "Back to normal" indeed. It's funny when people take a communist's regimes word as gospel.
 
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The confirmed cases chart for the US, Italy, and Spain if people are curious about which nation has fared worse regarding rate of increase. Data is taken from Wiki.

The good news is that the rate of increase in cases in NY and NJ which is driving the bulk of cases is slowing down. The trouble is Illinois, Louisiana, Michigan are starting to jump up.
 
No, it shows that it's not Trump's fault. If every other country was perfectly fine and the U.S. was the only country with cases, you'd have a point.

I concede to your superior wisdom on how accountability works. If someone does a shittier job than you, then you are completely off the hook when you fuck up. I had no idea that's how real life works.
 
And the excuse for Italy's numbers rising? How often did their President play golf? I'll wait patiently for the answer.

Italy's numbers have fuck all to do with Trumps shitty mismanagement of the crisis. Hope that helps.

No, it shows that it's not Trump's fault. If every other country was perfectly fine and the U.S. was the only country with cases, you'd have a point.
ONLY if we were also saying thgat other countries made no mistakes.

But Trump still made several choices with direct consequences. Choices to end critical positions, defund critical agencies, ignore intel reports.
And lie. Lie, lie, lie.
It also doesn't help that China's been lying to us since the beginning about the virus.
so, would have been useful if the US had a doctor working at thrur version of the CDC, no? Someone in a position to tell us the real story?
A position that Trump chose to end?

This is one of those choices with direct consequences.
People claim "China is back to normal!" but the media doesn't show the riots they are having in the streets. "Back to normal" indeed. It's funny when people take a communist's regimes word as gospel.
As opposed to taking Trump's lies as useful?
 
Looking at the Spain, Italy, and US numbers, I ponder if there are metrics that are not being taken into account, such as the population of each nation. But on the other hand, there is also the population density as well. Italy's population density is more than 5 times that of the Continental US. Italy is more densely populated than the NE United States! So maybe the numbers are even worse than the appear for the US.
 
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