Trump VS COVID-19 Threat

[blastula]

The "wartime" president says that states need to fend for themselves, not his problem.

Greatness in leadership.

 

[ZiprHead]

Lying to people instead of instructing on how to actually be safe. How safe do you feel now?

Very safe. My immune system is in great shape. I hardly ever get sick. It's been over 20 years since I had a fever.

Perhaps you should try licking a few door knobs.

 

[Patooka]

So what you are basically saying is that the Democratic governors of NY and NJ who are trying to not allow residents to leave those states, do not actually understand that it would be a meaningless effort?

Nope. What I am saying is your assertion that the article is about how "Trump is banning travel to and from China! Why? This virus isn't serious! He's just racist!" is complete bullshit. Furthermore, the opinion piece backed up its claims with statements from the World Health Organization at the time of writing, which isn't really pertinent to the situation we are in now. You're not even comparing apples to oranges. You're comparing apples to fucking anti-matter.

I like how you once again failed to explain how the media's action somehow makes Trump immune to criticism or being responsible. It's a bullshit argument, but at least you're consistent.

Leaders must be calm and convincing. They can't get on the podium screaming about how everyone should be afraid and might die.

Right now, Trump is as convincing as this guy:

But he is very calm, calling reporters nasty and mean and crying why people aren't nice to him. So Trump is a leader in the same sense Nero, Mugabe and Kim Jon Un are leaders

 

[blastula]

Lying to people instead of instructing on how to actually be safe. How safe do you feel now?

Very safe. My immune system is in great shape. I hardly ever get sick. It's been over 20 years since I had a fever.

You're not worried for anyone you know?

 

[Keith&Co.]

Lying to people instead of instructing on how to actually be safe. How safe do you feel now?

Very safe. My immune system is in great shape. I hardly ever get sick. It's been over 20 years since I had a fever.

You're not worried for anyone you know?

Maybe he's from Kansas. Not a lot of Chinese people in Kansas. He'll be fine.

 

[Half-Life]

So what you are basically saying is that the Democratic governors of NY and NJ who are trying to not allow residents to leave those states, do not actually understand that it would be a meaningless effort?

Nope. What I am saying is your assertion that the article is about how "Trump is banning travel to and from China! Why? This virus isn't serious! He's just racist!" is complete bullshit. Furthermore, the opinion piece backed up its claims with statements from the World Health Organization at the time of writing, which isn't really pertinent to the situation we are in now. You're not even comparing apples to oranges. You're comparing apples to fucking anti-matter.

I like how you once again failed to explain how the media's action somehow makes Trump immune to criticism or being responsible. It's a bullshit argument, but at least you're consistent.

Leaders must be calm and convincing. They can't get on the podium screaming about how everyone should be afraid and might die.

Right now, Trump is as convincing as this guy:

But he is very calm, calling reporters nasty and mean and crying why people aren't nice to him. So Trump is a leader in the same sense Nero, Mugabe and Kim Jon Un are leaders

But, everyone gets mad when the media treats the person they like with disdain.

A simple example is Bernie Sanders. The media always craps all over Bernie and the Bernie Bros. come out and defend Bernie calling the media mean, idiots, and fake news. Come to think of it, they say the same thing as us Trump Supporters when it comes to the media and Bernie.

 

[Patooka]

But, everyone gets mad when the media treats the person they like with disdain.

A simple example is Bernie Sanders. The media always craps all over Bernie and the Bernie Bros. come out and defend Bernie calling the media mean, idiots, and fake news. Come to think of it, they say the same thing as us Trump Supporters when it comes to the media and Bernie.

Huh?

What the fuck does that have to do with holding Trump accountable for his actions during this pandemic?

 

[lpetrich]

Kyle Cheney on Twitter: "BREAKING: House Overisght Committee reports that FEMA officials told them this week that only 9,500 ventilators are in the national stockpile and only 3,200 more will be there by April 13. Bulk of 100K ventilators promised by Trump won't be there until June. https://t.co/760qjehg6K" / Twitter

jeremy scahill on Twitter: "The richest person in the world, Jeff Bezos, had a meeting to discuss how to smear a warehouse worker who demanded a safe workplace for his colleagues. You can share your thoughts on it with former Obama WH spokesman and current Amazon PR hack @JayCarney: https://t.co/bec3xKuDHu" / Twitter
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Leaked Amazon Memo Details Plan to Smear Fired Warehouse Organizer: ‘He’s Not Smart or Articulate’ - VICE - "Written notes from the meeting, attended by CEO Jeff Bezos, detail Amazon's strategy to fight union organizing, as well as efforts to obtain COVID-19 tests and protective masks for workers."

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "Amazon’s attempt to smear Chris Smalls, one of their own warehouse workers, as “not smart or articulate” is a racist & classist PR campaign.
If execs are as concerned abt worker health & safety as they claim, then they should provide the full paid sick leave ALL workers deserve. https://t.co/pAubxenDwr" / Twitter
noting
VICE News on Twitter: "EXCLUSIVE: Leaked notes from an internal Amazon meeting reveal that company executives discussed a plan to smear Christian Smalls, a warehouse employee who was fired after he led an employee walkout at a Staten Island distribution warehouse. https://t.co/HgimBi1JFD" / Twitter
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VICE News on Twitter: "EXCLUSIVE: Amazon executives called him “not smart or articulate” as part of a PR strategy to make him “the face of the entire union/organizing movement.” https://t.co/IRbNWYL3Nb" / Twitter
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VICE News on Twitter: "EXCLUSIVE: The notes also detailed Amazon’s efforts to buy millions of protective masks to protect its workers from the coronavirus, as well as an effort to begin producing and selling its own masks. https://t.co/IRbNWYL3Nb" / Twitter

 

[lpetrich]

Trump fires back at Schumer over coronavirus criticism: 'No wonder AOC is thinking about running against you' | Fox News

Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY, Minority Leader):

“While companies that volunteer to produce ventilators and personal protective equipment are to be commended and are appreciated, America cannot rely on a patchwork of uncoordinated voluntary efforts to combat the awful magnitude of this pandemic,” Schumer said. “It is long past the time for your administration to designate a senior military officer to fix this urgent problem.”

Trump:

"Thank you for your Democrat public relations letter and incorrect sound bites, which are wrong in every way," Trump said in the letter released by the White House, referring to Schumer's coronavirus criticism earlier Thursday. "As you are aware, Vice President Pence is in charge of the Task Force. By almost all accounts, he has done a spectacular job."

...
"We have given New York many things, including hospitals, medical centers, medical supplies, record numbers of ventilators, and more. You should have had New York much better prepared than you did, as Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx said yesterday, New York was very late in its fight against the virus," Trump said. "As you are aware, the Federal Government is merely a back-up for state governments. Unfortunately, your state needed far more of a back-up than most others."

He continued, "If you spent less time on your ridiculous impeachment hoax, which went haplessly on forever and ended up going nowhere (except increasing my poll numbers), and instead focused on helping the people of New York, then New York would not have been so completely unprepared for the 'invisible enemy.' No wonder AOC and others are thinking about running against you in the primary. If they did, they would likely win."

 

[lpetrich]

Brazil's Bolsonaro isolated, weakened by coronavirus denial - Reuters

The far-right leader convened the emergency meeting in Brasilia’s modernist Alvorada Palace to resolve a dispute with Health Minister Luiz Henrique Mandetta, who publicly opposed the president’s calls to loosen quarantine restrictions for Brazil’s 210 million people.

But, with Mandetta unwilling to back down, Bolsonaro’s closest aides refused to support his plan to relax coronavirus rules to keep the economy going, according to two sources with knowledge of the meeting.

The Nordic Way to Economic Rescue - The New York Times

What is needed, say many economists, is not a spur to economic activity, but a comprehensive rescue for people harmed while normal life is frozen: The government should step in and issue paychecks directly to prevent a disastrous wave of joblessness.

“We should definitely make every possible measure to keep people in their jobs,” said Pavlina R. Tcherneva, an economist at Bard College and the author of the forthcoming book, “The Case for a Job Guarantee.”

“Essentially, the government becomes the employer of first resort,” she said. “If we were to do that today, we could stop some of the additional hemorrhage.”

Nationalize payrolls?

In Denmark, political parties from across the ideological spectrum joined with labor unions and employers associations this month to unite behind a plan that has the government covering 75 to 90 percent of all worker salaries over the next three months, provided that companies refrain from layoffs.

The Netherlands produced a similar scheme, with the government stepping in to cover 90 percent of wages for firms that show losses of at least 20 percent of their revenue. The British government pledged to cover 80 percent of wages, and on Thursday extended those protections to the self-employed.

USNS Comfort Hospital Ship Was Supposed to Aid New York. It Has 3 Patients. - The New York Times

On Thursday, though, the huge white vessel, which officials had promised would bring succor to a city on the brink, sat mostly empty, infuriating local hospital executives. The ship’s 1,000 beds are largely unused, its 1,200-member crew mostly idle.

Only three patients had been transferred to the ship, officials said, even as New York hospitals struggled to find space for the thousands infected with the coronavirus. Another Navy hospital ship, the U.S.N.S. Mercy, docked in Los Angeles, has had a total of 15 patients, officials said.

...
But the reality has been different. A tangle of military protocols and bureaucratic hurdles has prevented the Comfort from accepting many patients at all.

On top of its strict rules preventing people infected with the virus from coming on board, the Navy is also refusing to treat a host of other conditions. Guidelines disseminated to hospitals included a list of 49 medical conditions that would exclude a patient from admittance to the ship.

Awful.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The Nordic Way to Economic Rescue - The New York Times

Nationalize payrolls?

That is what I've been saying, at least temporarily during this crisis. The trouble with unemployment is you have to reestablish these jobs now. Yes, when the stores open up, there will be hiring, but it isn't going to happen immediately, nor will all the jobs come back, they never do. Management loves to brag about how much blood they can squeeze from a rock.

The government could have paid everyone, then come up with a formula to find out which companies would need to pay it back... ie, the companies would need to bank their payroll while the Feds paid and then only industries that were deemed in pain would get to keep it all. But you do that on the back end because the support was needed a couple weeks ago... now.

 

[lpetrich]

See Bill Gates’ Chilling Pandemic Warnings To Trump – Before The Coronavirus Outbreak Hit | MSNBC - YouTube

The massive coronavirus outbreak has raised the question: Could anyone have seen this coming? Billionaire Microsoft founder and philanthropist Bill Gates did – publicly warning in 2015 that most countries are unprepared for the real probability of an infectious pandemic, and asserting “if anything kills over 10 million people in the next few decades, it's most likely to be a highly infectious virus, rather than a war.” In this special report, MSNBC’s Ari Melber reports on Gates’ past warnings, his public.

A bit disappointing in presenting him as an "innovator" in the computer business. He isn't, and his company's products are sometimes very inferior. But his Gates Foundation does good work, and I think that he is completely correct in warning about possible pandemics. Ebola was successfully contained, but COVID-19 wasn't.

Pelosi: Bipartisan Select Committee For ‘Accountability’ During Pandemic | Andrea Mitchell | MSNBC - YouTube
Good idea. Something like the 9/11 commission.


Aaron Rupar on Twitter: "TRUMP: "I will always protect your Social Security, your Medicare, and your Medicaid. We are protecting your Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid." (REALITY: Trump's most recent budget proposal includes steep reductions to those programs.) https://t.co/CoXMKr3cu5" / Twitter

Aaron Rupar on Twitter: ""It''s a witch hunt after witch hunt after witch hunt" -- Trump is now using the coronavirus briefing to whine about oversight of his administration https://t.co/naKxCaje1h" / Twitter

Aaron Rupar on Twitter: "Here's Jared Kushner going for the world record of most meaningless corporate buzzwords used in a single one-minute video clip https://t.co/Vy1QJEhLQa" / Twitter

Aaron Rupar on Twitter: ""The states should have building their stockpiles ... we're a backup. We're not an ordering clerk." -- Trump https://t.co/3QxDMAmQzw" / Twitter

Aaron Rupar on Twitter: "REPORTER: Can you assure Americans tonight that you will be open for an Obamacare marketplace for coverage in this time?
TRUMP: "We are doing better than that. We are going to get a cash payment to the people." https://t.co/c1NTtoSWZw" / Twitter
What a non-answer.

Aaron Rupar on Twitter: "Trump on accepting planeload of medical gear from Russia: "They have excess medical equipment things. And I'll take it ... it was a large plane of very high-quality medical supplies." (Other counties have reportedly received low-quality medical supplies from Russia.) https://t.co/7GfGbCt8Rv" / Twitter

Aaron Rupar on Twitter: "JARED KUSHNER: "The notion of the federal stockpile was it's supposed to be our stockpile. It's not supposed to be states stockpiles that they then use." https://t.co/9Q7j8QBCMv" / Twitter

Aaron Rupar on Twitter: "Trump on some states doing better than others with coronavirus cases: "Some states they stay in better, they're not touching, they're not whatever it is, they're not going out, they're not in groups. And some states are not probably as good, or for whatever reason." https://t.co/GJySE8cyTh" / Twitter
A non-answer if there ever was one.

Aaron Rupar on Twitter: ""To my face they're very nice ... I watch very closely" -- Trump claims that some Democratic governors praise him and thank him for his efforts in private only to blast him on TV https://t.co/527Uh9wNRU" / Twitter
What a weenie.

Aaron Rupar on Twitter: "Trump says he's looking into options to prevent states and localities from releasing prisoners from jails and prisons amid the coronavirus pandemic https://t.co/piwULagkde" / Twitter
What would he prefer?

 

[lpetrich]

Russia's COVID-19 cases skyrocket - YouTube - "Russian President Vladimir Putin imposed significant lockdown measures in Moscow, the epicenter of the outbreak."

Trump officials privately question White House coronavirus death toll estimate: WaPo | TheHill

As China goes back to work, many wonder if the country's coronavirus recovery can be trusted - CNN - that'll be interesting to watch, though China's government does not give much confidence that it will be very transparent about it and the virus.

 

[angelo]

President Trump warned America about the Coronavirus in early February

I am gonna go ahead and stop you right there, and show how wrong this statement is, by providing direct quotes from our President* during the month of February:

Feb. 2: “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China. It’s going to be fine.”
Feb. 10: “Now, the virus that we’re talking about having to do — you know, a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat — as the heat comes in. Typically, that will go away in April. We’re in great shape though."
Feb. 23: “We have it very much under control in this country.”
Feb. 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
Feb. 25: “CDC & my administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”
Feb. 25: “I think that’s a problem that’s going to go away.”
Feb. 26: “So we’re at the low level. As they get better, we take them off the list, so that we’re going to be pretty soon at only five people. And we could be at just one or two people over the next short period of time. So we’ve had very good luck.”
Feb. 26: “And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.”
Feb. 26: “We’re going very substantially down, not up.”
Feb. 27: “It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear.”
Feb. 29: “Everything is really under control.”

Perhaps a little fact check is warranted here? ......................................................https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/bidens-false-claim-on-trumps-response-to-coronavirus/

 

[angelo]

Hopefully this isn't another hoax.....................................https://gellerreport.com/2020/04/hydroxychloroquine-and-azithromycin-works.html/

“This is the Beginning of the End of the Pandemic” – Dr. Stephen Smith Announces Hydroxy-Choloroquine Study that is “Game Changer” in Battle Against Coronavirus (VIDEO)

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Hopefully this isn't another hoax.....................................https://gellerreport.com/2020/04/hydroxychloroquine-and-azithromycin-works.html/

“This is the Beginning of the End of the Pandemic” – Dr. Stephen Smith Announces Hydroxy-Choloroquine Study that is “Game Changer” in Battle Against Coronavirus (VIDEO)

Well, if Dr Oz approves.

Remember, the right-wing is against Governments picking winners and losers, or being in charge of paying for the national health care system, but if Pres. Trump gets a tingly sensation over a medication, get ready to sold hard on that ‘miracle cure’ as if it were from Jesus.

 

[Elixir]

Hopefully this isn't another hoax.....................................https://gellerreport.com/2020/04/hydroxychloroquine-and-azithromycin-works.html/

“This is the Beginning of the End of the Pandemic” – Dr. Stephen Smith Announces Hydroxy-Choloroquine Study that is “Game Changer” in Battle Against Coronavirus (VIDEO)

Well, if Dr Oz approves.

Remember, the right-wing is against Governments picking winners and losers, or being in charge of paying for the national health care system, but if Pres. Trump gets a tingly sensation over a medication, get ready to sold hard on that ‘miracle cure’ as if it were from Jesus.

I believe it will turn out that Tide Pods are a preventative and a cure. How many people do you know who have eaten Tide Pods and then got COVFEFE-19?
NONE, right?
I rest my case!

 

[KeepTalking]

President Trump warned America about the Coronavirus in early February

I am gonna go ahead and stop you right there, and show how wrong this statement is, by providing direct quotes from our President* during the month of February:

Feb. 2: “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China. It’s going to be fine.”
Feb. 10: “Now, the virus that we’re talking about having to do — you know, a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat — as the heat comes in. Typically, that will go away in April. We’re in great shape though."
Feb. 23: “We have it very much under control in this country.”
Feb. 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
Feb. 25: “CDC & my administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”
Feb. 25: “I think that’s a problem that’s going to go away.”
Feb. 26: “So we’re at the low level. As they get better, we take them off the list, so that we’re going to be pretty soon at only five people. And we could be at just one or two people over the next short period of time. So we’ve had very good luck.”
Feb. 26: “And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.”
Feb. 26: “We’re going very substantially down, not up.”
Feb. 27: “It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear.”
Feb. 29: “Everything is really under control.”

Perhaps a little fact check is warranted here? ......................................................https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/bidens-false-claim-on-trumps-response-to-coronavirus/

How does that refute anything I posted?

Why would you fact check something I never said? To be clear the fact check you posted was on Biden's comment about Trump: "“And in addition to that, what happened was, we had one person in country who was working — he pulled him out of the country.”

That was a quote that I did not reference.

Every single one of the quotes I posted came directly from Trump, and I can provide sources for each and every one, go fact check that.

 

[blastula]

Hopefully this isn't another hoax.....................................https://gellerreport.com/2020/04/hydroxychloroquine-and-azithromycin-works.html/

“This is the Beginning of the End of the Pandemic” – Dr. Stephen Smith Announces Hydroxy-Choloroquine Study that is “Game Changer” in Battle Against Coronavirus (VIDEO)

 

[ZiprHead]

The ship captain that lost his job due to the virus running rampant on his ship and no help from the administration left the boat to cheers of seaman and soldiers.

I wonder how this will affect support for Bonespurs amongst the military.