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Trump VS COVID-19 Threat

Captain Trump hits the rocks - The Washington Post
As our ship of state founders in tempest-tossed seas, our captain has just likened himself to one of the most reviled villains in maritime history.

President Trump, disappointed that governors rejected his assertion that his “authority is total,” called them insurrectionists. “Tell the Democrat Governors that ‘Mutiny On The Bounty’ was one of my all time favorite movies,” he tweeted Tuesday. Operating from his customary position of near-total ignorance, he continued: “A good old fashioned mutiny every now and then is an exciting and invigorating thing to watch, especially when the mutineers need so much from the Captain. Too easy!”

Thus did the president find common cause with Captain William Bligh of the HMS Bounty, whose crew forced him off the ship in the South Pacific in 1789 because of his cruel and tyrannical ways. The real Bligh narrowly survived, but literature and Hollywood made him into a legendary antihero.
Shows what an ignoramus he is - he half-remembers something but doesn't remember enough of it or try to research it.

Trump’s bad check - The Washington Post
The dear and wise leader wants you to know that whatever good the government does for you is actually being done by him and him alone, since his authority is “total.”

No, we are not North Korea and don’t yet live under a totalitarian system. But President Trump’s demand that his name be affixed to the stimulus checks authorized by Congress to ease the economic impact of the coronavirus crisis tells us three things.

First, everything he does is self-serving. (He doesn’t mind if he delays your check.) Second, his instincts are authoritarian. Third, his bravado, designed to conceal, only highlights his awareness of the deep political trouble he’s in because of his “corruption, carelessness, self-dealing, disinformation, ignorance and just plain meanness.” After all, “pandemics have a way of cutting through a lot of noise and spin to remind us of what is real and what is important.”
 
Donald Trump has pointed out that he has the absolute and ultimate authority to order states to reopen their economies. Now that his plan has come out, he has lowered the boom. Henceforth, governors will be forced to reopen their states when they feel the time is right. All indications are that those governors have all caved and are now following Donald Trump's command to do what they want.

White House draft plan to reopen economy would advise some areas to lift restrictions after May 1

May 1? Very unlikely. More like May 1 2021 at best! This pandemic has a long way to go yet, it's only in it's infancy atm.
America has plateau'd in new cases, showing little sign of it dropping but, Trump is confident. We'll be able to open up the rural counties with few cases because of all that testing they haven't done in the rural counties. Believe me. Doctors are asking Trump how he can be so good at Pandemics.
 
Donald Trump has pointed out that he has the absolute and ultimate authority to order states to reopen their economies. Now that his plan has come out, he has lowered the boom. Henceforth, governors will be forced to reopen their states when they feel the time is right. All indications are that those governors have all caved and are now following Donald Trump's command to do what they want.

White House draft plan to reopen economy would advise some areas to lift restrictions after May 1

May 1? Very unlikely. More like May 1 2021 at best! This pandemic has a long way to go yet, it's only in it's infancy atm.
America has plateau'd in new cases, showing little sign of it dropping but, Trump is confident. We'll be able to open up the rural counties with few cases because of all that testing they haven't done in the rural counties. Believe me. Doctors are asking Trump how he can be so good at Pandemics.

I saw a statistic a couple days ago that claimed 1/3 of rural counties haven't even had their first COVID case yet. Which means that all of the people staying home, and all of the new unemployed, are flattening the curve for the same people who in most cases voted overwhelmingly for the cretin who's responsible for this disaster. And they'll gladly do it again. Because god, or some other bizarre "logic".
 
Good news everyone, we are "passed the peak".

President Trump said:
The battle continues, but the data suggests that nationwide we have passed the peak on new cases.
Great... so we don't need to worry about the disturbing trend of the new cases plateauing then.
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And these numbers are showing the effect of the soft shutdown, which took two weeks to see an effect.
 
Fact check...........................Biden has not directly said that the restrictions were xenophobic.

Around the time the Trump administration announced the travel restriction, Biden said that Trump had a “record of hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering.”

Biden used the phrase “xenophobic” in reply to a Trump tweet about limiting entry to travelers from China and in which Trump described the coronavirus as the “Chinese virus.” Biden did not spell out which part of Trump’s tweet was xenophobic.
https://www.politifact.com/factchec...whether-biden-called-trump-xenophobi/#sources

OK, so in support of your claim, you cite a source that describes your claim as "mostly false".

That aside, Trump never blocked travel from China. He blocked non-US citizens from travelling directly from China to the US, but US citizens and residents could still enter - in theory with health checks, in practice those were often non-existent.

Unless you believe Americans are naturally immune against the disease, that's not going to stop a virus (and if you do believe that, there isn't much need to stop it...).

Get your mask ready as I'm bringing out the anti vampire mirror and garlic again. https://gellerreport.com/2020/04/trumps-vs-dems-corona.html/

Coronavirus Timeline: What the President Did vs. What the Democrats Did

Who gives a fuck if the democrats did things wrong. They didn't have the information the Bonespurs administration did because Bonespurs chose to keep that information quiet.

That's just trying to misplace blame.
 
I saw a statistic a couple days ago that claimed 1/3 of rural counties haven't even had their first COVID case yet. Which means that all of the people staying home, and all of the new unemployed, are flattening the curve for the same people who in most cases voted overwhelmingly for the cretin who's responsible for this disaster. And they'll gladly do it again. Because god, or some other bizarre "logic".

It had always struck me that these people are also the ones who favor bombing random middle-east countries, supporting dictators, etc., which in the end has the effect of creating terrorists who will go after New York. Pretty easy to keep making bad decisions when it is other people who have to suffer the consequences.
 
Get your mask ready as I'm bringing out the anti vampire mirror and garlic again. https://gellerreport.com/2020/04/trumps-vs-dems-corona.html/

Coronavirus Timeline: What the President Did vs. What the Democrats Did

LOL, this says he did 2 things in January and 2 things in March. You never read your own links, do you?

I guess you didn't see the conference where Trump explained perfectly what he accomplished in February:

QUESTION: --What did your administration due in February with the time that your travel ban bought you?

TRUMP: A lot.

QUESTION: What?

TRUMP: A lot. And in fact, will give you a list what we did. In fact, part of it was up there. We did a lot.

QUESTION: It wasn't up there. The video had a gap.

I'm certainly convinced. Trump is doing a perfect job. Nobody has done a job like Trump. Believe me.
 
The Governors are telling trump that reopening the economy all hinges on widespread testing and contact tracing.
Business executives are telling Trump that reopening the economy all hinges on widespread testing contact tracing
Medical experts are telling Trump that reopening the economy all hinges on widespread testing and contact tracing

Trump "We have the best tests in the world!!!!"
 
The Governors are telling trump that reopening the economy all hinges on widespread testing and contact tracing.
Business executives are telling Trump that reopening the economy all hinges on widespread testing contact tracing
Medical experts are telling Trump that reopening the economy all hinges on widespread testing and contact tracing

Trump "We have the best tests in the world!!!!"
And even that is bull. We'd need how few new cases to be able to trace it back?

You get 10 people who get it, they are contagious in a week, about 1 of 10 notice a week later (at best?). So in two weeks they show up, they start tracing, but the 20 to 60 or so those 10 people infected, they are only tracing just 2 to 6, leaving 18 to 54 untraced. Two weeks later, we are 36 to 324 infected. 1 in 10 notice, they trace 4 to 32 people and 32 to 292 go untraced. Two weeks later...

From just 10 people.
 
America has plateau'd in new cases, showing little sign of it dropping but, Trump is confident. We'll be able to open up the rural counties with few cases because of all that testing they haven't done in the rural counties. Believe me. Doctors are asking Trump how he can be so good at Pandemics.

I saw a statistic a couple days ago that claimed 1/3 of rural counties haven't even had their first COVID case yet. Which means that all of the people staying home, and all of the new unemployed, are flattening the curve for the same people who in most cases voted overwhelmingly for the cretin who's responsible for this disaster. And they'll gladly do it again. Because god, or some other bizarre "logic".

Looking at the New York Times per-county map I find multiple counties around here with zero cases reported. They're also counties with few people. People who live out in the boonies aren't too likely to catch this because they live fairly isolated lives anyway. It's just there aren't a lot of them. The county to the west of us (rural + one bedroom community) has a rate that's a little more than 1/3 of ours. Applying that rate to some of our rural counties you would get an expected case count of zero.

However, I wonder how accurate this data is. I've driven through there a few times--and seen ads for specialist doctors here. That only makes sense if they don't have many specialists there. Thus, how many rural cases are showing up in the nearby more urban areas?
 
Good news everyone, we are "passed the peak".

President Trump said:
The battle continues, but the data suggests that nationwide we have passed the peak on new cases.
Great... so we don't need to worry about the disturbing trend of the new cases plateauing then.
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And these numbers are showing the effect of the soft shutdown, which took two weeks to see an effect.

Given that testing is still spotty and limited, it's new hospitalizations and deaths that are a better indicator of where the peak is. The US still very much flying blind.
 
Well, it looks like the virus originated in a lab in China. China will have to answer to the world.
 
Well, it looks like the virus originated in a lab in China. China will have to answer to the world.

Right after Donny-Stimulus-Check adds his name to all those death certificates...

Deranged TDS, Keith. Worse than normal. Imagine if this virus originated in a U.S. lab and China said, "President Xi must answer for this!!!!!"

That would be derangement for their own President. XiDS perhaps.
 
Well, it looks like the virus originated in a lab in China. China will have to answer to the world.

Right after Donny-Stimulus-Check adds his name to all those death certificates...

Deranged TDS, Keith. Worse than normal. Imagine if this virus originated in a U.S. lab and China said, "President Xi must answer for this!!!!!"

That would be derangement for their own President. XiDS perhaps.

Nobody is blaming Trump for the virus. People are only holding him accountable for the decisions he has made. Which is how it should be.

There. Now it should be easier for you to fucking read , seeing as you missed the point here, here and here
 
Well, it looks like the virus originated in a lab in China. China will have to answer to the world.

It doesn't look at all like the virus originated in a lab - not in China, nor in any other country.

But it doesn't surprise me in the slightest that it still looks like you haven't got the slightest clue what you are talking about.
 
Well, it looks like the virus originated in a lab in China. China will have to answer to the world.

It doesn't look at all like the virus originated in a lab - not in China, nor in any other country.

But it doesn't surprise me in the slightest that it still looks like you haven't got the slightest clue what you are talking about.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/china/...navirus-emerged-accidentally-chinese-n1185371

When dealing with a communist country that lies like water, you can't just dismiss this.

Most likely, it originated in their lab, they lied to the world and it got out of control. China has blood on its hands but they dont care. They are godless commies. No repercussions. Look at the Chinese government if you want a glimpse of what leftist governments look like.
 
Well, it looks like the virus originated in a lab in China. China will have to answer to the world.

It doesn't look at all like the virus originated in a lab - not in China, nor in any other country.

But it doesn't surprise me in the slightest that it still looks like you haven't got the slightest clue what you are talking about.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/china/...navirus-emerged-accidentally-chinese-n1185371

When dealing with a communist country that lies like water, you can't just dismiss this.
Yes, I can - because it's hearsay about a suspicion, and not evidence of any kind of anything.
Most likely, it originated in their lab, they lied to the world and it got out of control.
You are not qualified to assess the likelihood of that speculation. It seems incredibly unlikely to me, but I am just a molecular biologist, so I have to bow to the opinion of a journalist who is reporting that unnamed intelligence agencies are speculating about a possibility.
China has blood on its hands but they dont care. They are godless commies. No repercussions.

You are committing libel, which is an illegal act. But you don't care, because you anticipate no repercussions. Perhaps you should try being less of a hypocrite. You could add it to your "to do" list right after "learn to comprehend articles before claiming that they say something they don't", and "stop talking about stuff before actually learning something about it first".
 
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