Two Somali "refugees" arrested for trying to join ISIS

[Derec]

2 Somali Men Who Came to US As Refugees Arrested for Alleged Attempt To Support ISIS

The Department of Justice announced the arrest of two Somali men who came to the U.S. as refugees for allegedly trying to provide material support to the Islamic State.

FBI agents arrested Ahmed Mahad Mohamed, 21, and Abdi Yemani Hussein, 20, at Tucson International Airport on Friday. They had already checked in to board a flight to Egypt, and they allegedly planned to travel to Egypt’s Sinai region to join ISIS, according to the DOJ on Monday.

I wonder whether Ilhan Omar will demand they get a lenient sentence like she did in an earlier case of Somali terrorists...
Minnesota Democratic Rep. Omar wrote judge requesting lenient sentence for ISIS recruit

 

[Half-Life]

But leftists and people on this forum told me that all refugees are peaceful and loving people who just want a better life in our "racist America."

 

[Patooka]

But leftists and people on this forum told me that all refugees are peaceful and loving people who just want a better life in our "racist America."

Prove it. And if you don't like it, you can go back to where you came from.

 

[Jarhyn]

First: good. Anyone attempting to join a terrorist organization should be arrested.

Second: they still commit terrorist acts and join terrorist organizations at a lower rate than domestic racist pieces of shit.

It is a question not of binaries but of rates.

 

[Derec]

Second: they still commit terrorist acts and join terrorist organizations at a lower rate than domestic racist pieces of shit.

1. They are racist pieces of shit.
2. [citation needed] that Somalis join terrorist groups less frequently than "domestic" people.

Btw, do you count, say, the Newburgh Four as "domestic racist pieces of shit" or do they have to be white and non-Muslim to warrant that description from you?

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

From you link:

“One of them stated ‘The best wake up call is Islamic State to get victory or another 9/11,'” he added. “Get smart people!”

So we should ban Muslim nations again, according to Trump.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Observation: They weren't ISIS supporters when they came here. They were recruited here. The problem is our own Islamists, not the refugees.

 

[Half-Life]

Observation: They weren't ISIS supporters when they came here. They were recruited here. The problem is our own Islamists, not the refugees.

That's even worse! Who's allowing these terrorists under our noses?!?

 

[bilby]

Observation: They weren't ISIS supporters when they came here. They were recruited here. The problem is our own Islamists, not the refugees.

That's even worse! Who's allowing these terrorists under our noses?!?

Freedom.

Freedom is allowing them.

You cannot prevent terrorism from arising without shredding the Bill of Rights.

All you can do is try to detect those attempting it and arrest them, after they've broken the law, but ideally before they've hurt or killed anyone.

If you take pre-emptive action against people before they break the law, then you have a far worse impact on your nation than any terrorist could.

I apologise once again for pointing out that your simplistic worldview is a stinking pile of horseshit.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Observation: They weren't ISIS supporters when they came here. They were recruited here. The problem is our own Islamists, not the refugees.

Agreed, recruitment over the Internet makes all of this possible.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Hold on. Wait a second.

President Twitler McCrazyPants said we defeated ISIS and I quote:

We have defeated ISIS in Syria, my only reason for being there during the Trump Presidency.

(tweet, 19 Dec 2018)

So how is it possible these guys could be joining a non-existent entity like ISIS?

 

[Toni]

Observation: They weren't ISIS supporters when they came here. They were recruited here. The problem is our own Islamists, not the refugees.

It is almost certain that they were recruited over the internet by terrorists abroad.

The question that we need to ask is why were these individuals susceptible to such recruitment efforts? Few immigrants of any origin join terrorist groups. But some do. See Americans of Irish descent or immigrants from Ireland joining the IRA.

For that matter, see home grown white males who join organizations such as the Klan and Aryan Nation and other white nationalist groups. What is the difference, aside from the skin color?

Is there a relationship between such groups and individuals who do armed home invasions and kidnap young girls such as Jaimie Closs? Unfortunately that does not seem to be an isolated instance.

To me, all of these share some similarity.

I wonder if there is a shared root cause?

 

[Half-Life]

Observation: They weren't ISIS supporters when they came here. They were recruited here. The problem is our own Islamists, not the refugees.

It is almost certain that they were recruited over the internet by terrorists abroad.

The question that we need to ask is why were these individuals susceptible to such recruitment efforts? Few immigrants of any origin join terrorist groups. But some do. See Americans of Irish descent or immigrants from Ireland joining the IRA.

For that matter, see home grown white males who join organizations such as the Klan and Aryan Nation and other white nationalist groups. What is the difference, aside from the skin color?

Is there a relationship between such groups and individuals who do armed home invasions and kidnap young girls such as Jaimie Closs? Unfortunately that does not seem to be an isolated instance.

To me, all of these share some similarity.

I wonder if there is a shared root cause?

The KKK doesn't do anything anymore. They are like the Black Panthers. Both groups are white/black supremacists, but nothing happens.

 

[Toni]

Observation: They weren't ISIS supporters when they came here. They were recruited here. The problem is our own Islamists, not the refugees.

It is almost certain that they were recruited over the internet by terrorists abroad.

The question that we need to ask is why were these individuals susceptible to such recruitment efforts? Few immigrants of any origin join terrorist groups. But some do. See Americans of Irish descent or immigrants from Ireland joining the IRA.

For that matter, see home grown white males who join organizations such as the Klan and Aryan Nation and other white nationalist groups. What is the difference, aside from the skin color?

Is there a relationship between such groups and individuals who do armed home invasions and kidnap young girls such as Jaimie Closs? Unfortunately that does not seem to be an isolated instance.

To me, all of these share some similarity.

I wonder if there is a shared root cause?

The KKK doesn't do anything anymore. They are like the Black Panthers. Both groups are white/black supremacists, but nothing happens.

You sound somewhere between disgusted and disappointed.

Rest assured: the KKK is still active, still burns crosses, still intimidates and inspires. I realize that there are newer, more modern versions of white supremacist groups. You are possibly more acquainted than I am. But the sprint is the same.

What is the real difference between white supremacists, and ‘Islamic’ terrorists? And incels, for that matter?

 

[Jarhyn]

The KKK doesn't do anything anymore. They are like the Black Panthers. Both groups are white/black supremacists, but nothing happens.

You sound somewhere between disgusted and disappointed.

Rest assured: the KKK is still active, still burns crosses, still intimidates and inspires. I realize that there are newer, more modern versions of white supremacist groups. You are possibly more acquainted than I am. But the sprint is the same.

What is the real difference between white supremacists, and ‘Islamic’ terrorists? And incels, for that matter?

So, I'm just gonna be that guy and outright say it: it all boils down to conservativism.

and the only thing that separates those chucklefucks from each other is the sticker that happens to be slapped on the side of The Beast

 

[Half-Life]

The KKK doesn't do anything anymore. They are like the Black Panthers. Both groups are white/black supremacists, but nothing happens.

You sound somewhere between disgusted and disappointed.

Rest assured: the KKK is still active, still burns crosses, still intimidates and inspires. I realize that there are newer, more modern versions of white supremacist groups. You are possibly more acquainted than I am. But the sprint is the same.

What is the real difference between white supremacists, and ‘Islamic’ terrorists? And incels, for that matter?

Does the KKK still perform lynchings?

 

[Toni]

The KKK doesn't do anything anymore. They are like the Black Panthers. Both groups are white/black supremacists, but nothing happens.

You sound somewhere between disgusted and disappointed.

Rest assured: the KKK is still active, still burns crosses, still intimidates and inspires. I realize that there are newer, more modern versions of white supremacist groups. You are possibly more acquainted than I am. But the sprint is the same.

What is the real difference between white supremacists, and ‘Islamic’ terrorists? And incels, for that matter?

Does the KKK still perform lynchings?

Why?

 

[Half-Life]

Does the KKK still perform lynchings?

Why?

Because then they'd be a threat. But, if they are just crazy men with hoods doing nothing just like the Black Panthers are crazy men but not lynching whites, then both groups aren't worth mentioning anymore.

 

[Derec]

So how is it possible these guys could be joining a non-existent entity like ISIS?

ISIS was defeated as a territorial entity, but as an organization it still exists of course.
ISIS Continues To Pose Significant Threat, OIR Official Says

 

[Derec]

So, I'm just gonna be that guy and outright say it: it all boils down to conservativism.

You can call it conservativism[sic] if you insist, but they are label. Funny though, that Islamism finds allies on the US (and European) Left ...