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We have a plan replacement!!!

 
 
 
Ford said:
Jimmy Higgins said:
Don't worry folks! Hugh Hewitt says the free market will save the day. On NPR this morning, Hewitt agreed that 15 million will lose coverage under the repeal, but that many, and likely more, will get even better state care. Sure, there will be some losers, but overall, things will be better because, well... you know, the free market. Because that is why more people were insured before ACA was passed.
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I came in at the tail end of that segment and would have probably punched my radio if I'd heard the whole thing. The "net-net" will be positive? So if 15 million lose their insurance, 14 million are then covered by the miraculous free market, and the other million die of easily treated disease, then that's a "net-net" positive for Hugh.
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The NPR interviewer suffered a couple strokes during that segment.

Hugh Hewitt apparently thinks that Big Federal Government is bad, but that Republican Governors and State Legislators are open to the idea of spending a lot more money on Medicaid like programs.
 
So, if they do the replacement, but write it so that it doesn't take effect until 2019, can they then blame the Democrats, who could become the majority in one or both of the houses of Congress, for its failings?
 
Anyone have a link to the two papers that Obama wrote on the medical health care situation?

My Director (who's a big deal in medicine) waved them in my face today, calling them brilliant, but I didn't get a chance to read them or even get the titles.
 
OMB is telling us the GOP plans will be an unmitigated failure. White House sources tell us the same.

Pull the trigger GOP! Death Panels! GOP death panels! Off year elections are usually a problem for the party holding the white house. A full scale rush to insanity and incompetence over health care thanks to the GOP may very well be politically costly. Pull the trigger death panel GOP fools!
 
Cheerful Charlie said:
OMB is telling us the GOP plans will be an unmitigated failure. White House sources tell us the same.

Pull the trigger GOP! Death Panels! GOP death panels! Off year elections are usually a problem for the party holding the white house. A full scale rush to insanity and incompetence over health care thanks to the GOP may very well be politically costly. Pull the trigger death panel GOP fools!
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Calm down before you blow a gasket.

I'm pretty sure the GOP response to the ACA will kill people, and that republicans already know that. What they're debating is whether it will be politically costly enough to matter.
 
joedad said:
Cheerful Charlie said:
OMB is telling us the GOP plans will be an unmitigated failure. White House sources tell us the same.

Pull the trigger GOP! Death Panels! GOP death panels! Off year elections are usually a problem for the party holding the white house. A full scale rush to insanity and incompetence over health care thanks to the GOP may very well be politically costly. Pull the trigger death panel GOP fools!
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Calm down before you blow a gasket.

I'm pretty sure the GOP response to the ACA will kill people, and that republicans already know that. What they're debating is whether it will be politically costly enough to matter.
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That stuff is intangible. What is tangible are the tax savings for very wealthy people. Nearly $200,000. And that makes it all worth it.

Of course, the radicals on the GOP think this bill is just another entitlement. The "moderates" of the GOP fear the political and financial cost of the Medicaid drop in states like Ohio and Michigan. Sure, there is a big tax cut here, but it is still an "entitlement" and "fiscally unsustainable" and both of those arguments can not be reconciled. At least one group needs to give up.
 
The entire civilized world. The ENTIRE civilized world.

Except the US sees health insurance that actually covers health care as a sacred human right, like the freedom of speech.

Why is the US trapped in this primitive state?

What about Americans makes them so juvenile and ignorant?

What a shame. A rich nation with a health insurance system fit for a third world banana republic.
 
Ah, Don the Con is pulling out “look how big it is” to brow beat House Repugs into voting for ChumpCare.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/21/politics/trump-health-care/index.html
The President met with House Republicans rally reluctant lawmakers to get behind legislation to repeal and replace Obamacare. His message: you could lose your seats if you don't vote for the bill.
Trump began by touting the size of his crowd at a rally in Louisville, Kentucky, Monday night, and spoke about how he liked earned media, sources inside the meeting tell CNN.

"We won't have these crowds if we don't get this done," he said.
He later said, "I honestly think many of you will lose your seats in 2018 if you don't get this done."
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So, El Cheeto draws 17,000 and thinks he can con the Repugs with such average numbers:
http://www.glasgowdailytimes.com/ne...cle_0773fbca-0ddc-11e7-82dd-b379f69c6e5f.html
LOUISVILLE – President Donald Trump gave a campaign-style speech to 17,000 enthusiastic supporters packed into Freedom Hall on Monday night, reprising most of the populist and nativist themes of his winning campaign.
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Sep 28, 2010 Pres. Obama drew 26,500 people to his rally, admittedly the biggest rally since winning the presidency.
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/lo...cle_a4b071e8-cb5d-11df-b464-001cc4c002e0.html
According to UW-Madison Police, more than 26,500 people showed up for the rally, making it Obama's largest since the campaign.
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But the Pres. Obama rally was after the ACA was passed and people weren’t all that happy about the kid glove treatment regarding WS. And still the Dums were pounded pretty hard 2 months later in the mid-term election. And with more tweaks to the bill to secure more votes, it will be interesting to watch just how much the Repugs will be influenced by El Cheeto and the Repug leadership into voting for a poison pill bill. But it probably is true that if the Repugs don't at least appear to make big changes to the ACA the alt-right will get pretty pissed at the repugs and might show up in less numbers to vote in 2018. And the alt-right could push more crazy challengers in the primaries as well...tough pickle they are in.
 
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