Well... it's Trump... again. #47, here we go.

[Jimmy Higgins]

Did anyone who saw the Trump Gaza video notice the belly dancers had beards? Trump was dancing with trans women.

Yeah, me and blastula yesterday.

I had to rewind because I caught that and thought... wha?

 

[Shadowy Man]

Did anyone who saw the Trump Gaza video notice the belly dancers had beards? Trump was dancing with trans women.

Yeah, me and blastula yesterday.

I had to rewind because I caught that and thought... wha?

I guess what I don't understand about AI is how it figures out what it should look like to have bearded ladies bellydancing. What is the source material for that?

 

[ideologyhunter]

This will pay off our debt. We just need 6,000,000 people with net worths of $100+ million.

What we really need is a one-time Super Bronze Banishment Card.
Price: $100 million, split evenly among the Air Force One crew.
The payoff: Trump + Malaria are dropped off in the wilds of Greenland with 2 backpacks of Clif bars, a flashlight, one sleeping bag (sorry, babe.)

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

This will pay off our debt. We just need 6,000,000 people with net worths of $100+ million.

What we really need is a one-time Super Bronze Banishment Card.
Price: $100 million, split evenly among the Air Force One crew.
The payoff: Trump + Malaria are dropped off in the wilds of Greenland with 2 backpacks of Clif bars, a flashlight, one sleeping bag (sorry, babe.)

Dude, we just need to get him in a mirror maze.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Meanwhile...

You never know when it comes to that. You know you dig and maybe things aren’t there like you think they’re there. But we’ll be spending a lot of time there. It’ll be great for Ukraine. It’s like a huge economic development project. So, it’ll be good for both countries.

Trump speaking of this huge deal with Ukraine... which he apparently doesn't even know what it... includes? It feels like Trump agreed to all the moisture farming rights in Ukraine or Zelenskyy gave Trump all the mining rights to upsidasium and adamantium.

 

[ideologyhunter]

Trump being the savvy business man he is, I think he should take the Fort Knox approach with the Ukes. We're getting their rare metals? This calls for hands on. Trump needs to arrive without advance notice and insist on an immediate trip to their thorium, uranium, and cobalt mines. Then get his hands on the goods -- make sure it's there. Sift it. Feel its heft. If it's the real thing, it'll be heavy and iridescent. He'll be very upset if it's not there.

 

[ZiprHead]

 

[Loren Pechtel]

No, this is a very simple situation. They're stealing the land. This isn't about fairness, it's about theft. Exactly like Zimbabwe. Just because it's being done by someone who isn't white doesn't make it not evil. If it was not evil they would be paying fair compensation.

You are right, this is a simple situation of poor people desperate for access to land to be able to herd their livestock and barely make ends meet.

Your utter disregard for their needs and the gross disparity in who owns the land and how best to manage this inequity that will otherwise lead to violence is duly noted.

You are utterly disregarding what actually happened.

Now you are disregarding my actual posts.

Did the poor people get access to land to herd their livestock? No. Now in much of Zimbabwe there is the tsetse fly and thus no livestock at all.

Zimbabwe, at least according to my knowledge of geography, isn't part of South Africa. Nor was I speaking about Zimbabwe.

It's relevant because I was saying that what's happening in South Africa is the same thing that happened in Zimbabwe. That turned out to be good for the fat cats and bad for the people. And I see nothing about what's happening in South Africa to suggest it's any different. Just because it's blacks stealing from whites doesn't make it good.

The theft was presented as being in the public interest. It was not. The only beneficiaries were the rich. Look at The Felon's tax cut proposals.

Trump is not part of South Africa.

Regarding the theft of white owned territory in South Africa, it'd be best to reference the theft of white owned territory in South Africa, not analogies.

You're completely ignoring my point. I'm not saying The Felon is in South Africa, I'm comparing his actions which purport to be good for the people to what we are seeing in South Africa, again purporting to be good for the people. In both cases that's not what's actually happening, though.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Basically every bit of land has been stolen from it's original owners, generally many times. Specific objects from specific people, ok, return is generally appropriate. General objects from populations--no. Two wrongs don't make a right.

So don't support bombing innocent people.

When a country chooses war it's people tend to get bombed. If you prohibit this you are handing the world over to the most evil. In case you've forgotten: Hamas was caught arranging a protest to the Israeli response before there was any Israeli response. That means they knew what would happen and chose that path.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

But you want to permit a greater wrong (genocide) in order to prevent a lesser wrong (people dying in a war their country chose to fight.) The real world doesn't have perfect answers, you need to choose the least bad. And if you refuse to choose reality will choose--and usually choose the bigger bad.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

https://www.crisisgroup.org/africa/southern-africa/south-africa/land-reform-south-africa-fact-and-fiction

A lot of good information in the article.

Apologists:

According to South Africa’s ruling African National Congress (ANC), the proposed amendment would introduce greater clarity to existing expropriation provisions, though it would remove the stipulation “subject to compensation”.

In other words, they're going to steal it.

So if a thief steals a valuable piece of jewelry from your grandmother, does the thief's grandson get to keep it even though it's known it belonged to your grandmother?

Basically every bit of land has been stolen from it's original owners, generally many times. Specific objects from specific people, ok, return is generally appropriate. General objects from populations--no. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Most of the land on question has a clear paper trail, so why shouldn't the government recover it? Returning stolen property is not a second wrong, it's the righting of a wrong.

Your ethics are basically saying that redress for a theft should be impossible as long if the thief fenced or laundered the stuff they stole quickly enough, that they are no longer owned by the original thief. But that's not how the law works. If you know the Rolex is a fenced good, you're also on the hook for buying it, and the grandson of a thief should similarly be the hook for the stolen goods he inherits. On what basis does a current owner of a farm on stolen land have rights to it? They didn't pay for it, it wasn't granted to them, they didn't work for it. They just inherited a criminal enterprise, which is not a kind of type of "right" that a nation is morally obliged to honor.

Yeah, the land has a paper trail. What the left conveniently ignores is when that paper trail leads to a seizure/ethnic cleansing by the Arabs.

I don't see how this response relates to the content of my post, despite quoting it.

The point is the paper trail doesn't say what you think it says.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I think they would put in government overseers

Why bother? Their intent is to get rid of anything that requires oversight.

Context!

The subject was what the Democrats should do, not what the Republicans are going to do!

 

[Politesse]

I don't see how this response relates to the content of my post, despite quoting it.

The point is the paper trail doesn't say what you think it says.

And if I could see this mystical paper trail you're imagining, I'd see how rural South Africa is being cleansed by Arabs?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The Trump Admin is scrambling to find anything they can consider waste and fraud. And the entire thing appears to be coordinated with the Project 2025 folks as they seem to have a script a bit too early on investigations that haven't even happened yet. The funds in the $20 billion program have already been frozen. It doesn't sound like there is an investigation even begun, as the prosecutors the EPA tried to get to look into the program both declined.

And of course, we have the under oath version of the story...

Testifying Wednesday before a House Energy and Commerce oversight subcommittee, EPA acting inspector general Nicole N. Murley said her office also was reviewing spending under the law that created the grant program, adding that EPA’s push to meet statutory deadlines raised concerns over the proper vetting of grant recipients, proposed projects and the monitoring of funds.

Doesn't sound that sexy, does it?

The anti-government regulation folks are quite enamored over the not under oath version.

Conservative groups with ties to the fossil-fuel and mining industries praised the EPA’s action.

“The Biden administration intended to use a large part of that $20 billion to fund leftist activist groups,” said Myron Ebell, a former Trump EPA transition adviser who chairs the American Lands Council, which seeks the transfer of federal land to states, and who has called for repealing the central scientific finding for U.S. action against climate change.

Martin, the U.S. attorney in D.C., also posted about the Climate United Fund before taking office, saying in October, “Insanity: $6.7 billion given to Green activists by Biden to disburse to others. Total graft. Needs to be stopped. @elonmusk better look at this one as DOGE king.”

Project Veritass is behind the video that seems to be the basis of the investigation. Imagine that.

 

[lostone]

How can any nation place any trust in the US as an ally? It is obvious to the entire world that our support is as fickle as public opinion in the US and the latest election. Our treaties are only valid as long as the people who were in power when the treaty was made are still in power and null and void once those people are no longer in power.

 

[crazyfingers]

How can any nation place any trust in the US as an ally? It is obvious to the entire world that our support is as fickle as public opinion in the US and the latest election. Our treaties are only valid as long as the people who were in power when the treaty was made are still in power and null and void once those people are no longer in power.

While I largely agree, commitment to treaties seem more about who is willing gush over how Kingly Trump looks sitting on his golden toilet.

 

[crazyfingers]

Just last last time, every fucking day when I check the news in the morning Trump has done some new horrible thing. Chaos and evil every single day!

 

[robnisch]

Is today at the WH how "The Art of Deal" is done?

 

[TomC]

Is today at the WH how "The Art of Deal" is done?

What happened to the good old times of "You're Fired!"
Tom

 

[crazyfingers]

Is today at the WH how "The Art of Deal" is done?

What happened to the good old times of "You're Fired!"
Tom

He's doing it across the federal government. He loves it. 900 National Weather Service/NOAA today.

 

[Elixir]

Is today at the WH how "The Art of Deal" is done?

What happened to the good old times of "You're Fired!"
Tom

Fill me in; what’s the diff, or did you skip the sarcasm emoji?