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Well... it's Trump... again. #47, here we go.

 
 
 
Can't wait for crazy grandpa to react to the judge throwing out the James/Comey cases. He'll probably bring up liberal judges, treason, and for good measure one of his holiday messages that ends by wishing his enemies would roast in hell. How embarrassing to be American.
 
I have a problem with all the talk about tRump's health.
He's old so what. We all get old and die.
Focus on what he is doing to the country.
 
Trump the evil and Hegseth the drunk are using a new method to intimidate and punish critics. Senator Kelly is one of six members of congress to put out a video reminding members of the military that they can refuse to obey an illegal order. According to Trumpfuck, it's sedition to say that the military must not obey illegal orders.

Trump is such an evil person.

Pentagon to investigate Sen. Mark Kelly for anti-Trump video
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The unprecedented move comes after the retired Navy captain advised troops they don’t need to obey unlawful orders.

The Pentagon on Monday announced it is investigating Sen. Mark Kelly, a critic of President Donald Trump and Navy veteran, after he and fellow Democrats advised troops not to follow illegal orders.

The Pentagon, in a post on X, said it had launched “a thorough review” into Kelly for “serious allegations of misconduct,” which could result in recalling the Arizona senator to active duty to court-martial him.

Kelly, in a statement, dismissed the investigation. “If this is meant to intimidate me and other members of Congress from doing our jobs and holding this administration accountable, it won’t work,” he said. “I’ve given too much to this country to be silenced by bullies who care more about their own power than protecting the Constitution.”

Administration officials have previously floated the idea of recalling retired military personnel to active duty to face court martial for alleged crimes.

Former Joint Chiefs Chair Gen. Mark Milley, who sparred frequently with Trump during his first term in office, said he worried he would be charged with treason or sedition by Trump as revenge for their past disagreements.
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But Kelly’s status as a U.S. senator could complicate the Pentagon’s investigation because the Constitution explicitly shields members of Congress from White House overreach, said Anthony Michael Kreis, a constitutional law professor at Georgia State University.

“Having a United States senator subject to discipline at the behest of the secretary of defense and the president — that violates a core principle of legislative independence,” Kreis said in a phone interview.
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Pentagon says it's investigating Sen. Mark Kelly over video urging troops to defy 'illegal orders'

The Pentagon says it's investigating Democratic Sen. Mark Kelly of Arizona over possible breaches of military law after the former Navy pilot joined a handful of other lawmakers in a video that called for U.S. troops to defy “illegal orders.”
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Charlie Swift, a lawyer and a retired lieutenant commander in the U.S. Navy, said that in his view the lawmakers in the video made a “true statement of the law” when they said troops should refuse illegal orders.

Mr. Kelly’s statements are also probably protected by the speech and debate clause that protects members of Congress from prosecution, Mr. Swift said.
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Mark Kelly Under Pentagon Investigation for ‘Illegal Orders’ Video

The defense secretary called the senator’s remarks urging troops not to follow illegal orders “despicable, reckless, and false.”
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crazyfingers said:
Senator Kelly is one of six members of congress to put out a video reminding members of the military that they can refuse to obey an illegal order.
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They were reminded that they MUST refuse an illegal order. It is a crime to knowingly obey one.
 
Elixir said:
crazyfingers said:
Senator Kelly is one of six members of congress to put out a video reminding members of the military that they can refuse to obey an illegal order.
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They were reminded that they MUST refuse an illegal order. It is a crime to knowingly obey one.
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And Trump wants to recall him into the service to court martial him for....... ?
 
Honestly, what sort of Americans are not at this point done with Trump? What else could he do, to more thoroughly disgrace the office he holds? The poop plane video...Quiet, Piggy...stating that telling the military to obey the law is sedition. I just, don't, get, it. But of course these are the same people that don't care about the scandals of the past, the true sedition of allowing the Jan. 6 rioters to rampage, the theft of government documents, the conviction as a sex offender and business fraudster. They deserve a horrible President. The rest of us don't.
 
ideologyhunter said:
Honestly, what sort of Americans are not at this point done with Trump? What else could he do, to more thoroughly disgrace the office he holds? The poop plane video...Quiet, Piggy...stating that telling the military to obey the law is sedition. I just, don't, get, it. But of course these are the same people that don't care about the scandals of the past, the true sedition of allowing the Jan. 6 rioters to rampage, the theft of government documents, the conviction as a sex offender and business fraudster. They deserve a horrible President. The rest of us don't.
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The deplorables.

It's beyond rationality that anyone could support this stooge, clown, racist pig, con-artist, mobster, fascist, lying sack of shit. But the deporables do. Because they are the deporables.
 
crazyfingers said:
Trump the evil and Hegseth the drunk are using a new method to intimidate and punish critics. Senator Kelly is one of six members of congress to put out a video reminding members of the military that they can refuse to obey an illegal order. According to Trumpfuck, it's sedition to say that the military must not obey illegal orders.

Trump is such an evil person.

Pentagon to investigate Sen. Mark Kelly for anti-Trump video
Click to expand...

The unprecedented move comes after the retired Navy captain advised troops they don’t need to obey unlawful orders.

The Pentagon on Monday announced it is investigating Sen. Mark Kelly, a critic of President Donald Trump and Navy veteran, after he and fellow Democrats advised troops not to follow illegal orders.

The Pentagon, in a post on X, said it had launched “a thorough review” into Kelly for “serious allegations of misconduct,” which could result in recalling the Arizona senator to active duty to court-martial him.

Kelly, in a statement, dismissed the investigation. “If this is meant to intimidate me and other members of Congress from doing our jobs and holding this administration accountable, it won’t work,” he said. “I’ve given too much to this country to be silenced by bullies who care more about their own power than protecting the Constitution.”

Administration officials have previously floated the idea of recalling retired military personnel to active duty to face court martial for alleged crimes.

Former Joint Chiefs Chair Gen. Mark Milley, who sparred frequently with Trump during his first term in office, said he worried he would be charged with treason or sedition by Trump as revenge for their past disagreements.
Click to expand...


But Kelly’s status as a U.S. senator could complicate the Pentagon’s investigation because the Constitution explicitly shields members of Congress from White House overreach, said Anthony Michael Kreis, a constitutional law professor at Georgia State University.

“Having a United States senator subject to discipline at the behest of the secretary of defense and the president — that violates a core principle of legislative independence,” Kreis said in a phone interview.
Click to expand...
apnews.com

Pentagon says it's investigating Sen. Mark Kelly over video urging troops to defy 'illegal orders'

The Pentagon says it's investigating Democratic Sen. Mark Kelly of Arizona over possible breaches of military law after the former Navy pilot joined a handful of other lawmakers in a video that called for U.S. troops to defy “illegal orders.”
apnews.com apnews.com


Charlie Swift, a lawyer and a retired lieutenant commander in the U.S. Navy, said that in his view the lawmakers in the video made a “true statement of the law” when they said troops should refuse illegal orders.

Mr. Kelly’s statements are also probably protected by the speech and debate clause that protects members of Congress from prosecution, Mr. Swift said.
Click to expand...
www.nytimes.com

Mark Kelly Under Pentagon Investigation for ‘Illegal Orders’ Video

The defense secretary called the senator’s remarks urging troops not to follow illegal orders “despicable, reckless, and false.”
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
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Of course, when they say the Pentagon, they mean Pete Hegseth. If it was actually the Pentagon doing any investigation it would be Trump and his cronies being investigated. Of course, there is also the issue of what the Pentagon can investigate, and surely this should be a civil matter, not military, as these people are not current military (many of them are former military which makes their statement authoritative, as they have expertise on the matter of UCMJ).
 
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