What, exactly, is CRT?

[TomC]

Has anyone warned her that if most of those complaints were taken as a given, the Bible would also have to be banned in schools? "Dark imagery" and "extreme emotions", indeed.

This would make an interesting discussion.

Does the strong emotions, advocacy of infanticide, gruesome deaths, forbidding divorce, and such, make the Bible inappropriate reading. Would she like to go on record as opposing the inclusion of the Bible in K-12 curriculum?


Tom

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

It looks like the complaints Moms for Liberty have leveled run far beyond just CRT:

http://tennesseeledger.com/williams...resents-wit-and-wisdom-led-by-robin-steenman/

Steenman and Lori Fredhim, the lead researcher on the project, spoke for nearly two hours, presenting in detail the materials they and their army of approximately 1,600 mothers have reviewed. Steenman described several areas of concern, including the teaching of; suicidal ideation, cannibalism, white supremacy and condemnation of White people, death described graphically, denigration of the nuclear family, age-inappropriate content like alcoholism or sexualized behavior in books, dark imagery, and extreme emotions discussed in books for very young children. Explaining that not everything needs to be seen through a depressing lens, at one point, Steenman said to the audience:

“I would submit: why have this book if it has all the warnings?… There’s a lot of beautiful literature out there. Pick something from that pile.”

She also explained that children “are being given books way out of their Lexile range—”meaning the books and the concepts in them are too abstract for young children to grasp.

If not for the CRT angle, this would look like the bog standard drive for social censorship that American schoool districts face on a regular basis, with everything from cannibalism to strong emotions to "big words" on the chopping block. The Concerned Moms of America are perpetually worried that children might accidentally encounter reality through a school textbook, and they don't mind sacrificing theeir own liberties to prevent this from occurring.

Has anyone warned her that if most of those complaints were taken as a given, the Bible would also have to be banned in schools? "Dark imagery" and "extreme emotions", indeed.

The Christ cult is also based on ritual cannibalism...

Don't be ridiculous. The Christ cult is also based on ritual cannibalism and​ vampirism.

 

[Keith&Co.]

The Christ cult is also based on ritual cannibalism...

Don't be ridiculous. The Christ cult is also based on ritual cannibalism and​ vampirism.

It's not cannibalism. That's eating the body for nourishment. Those crackers are not nourishing. And vampirism is sustaining undead activity through stolen vitality. Traditionally, vampires cannot enter a church, much less take communion, FAR less benefit from communion.

Eating the flesh of the dead to gain magical benefits is necromancy. Ritual necromancy, here, but still magic improvement requiring the death of another and ingesting their remains.

 

[Politesse]

It looks like the complaints Moms for Liberty have leveled run far beyond just CRT:

http://tennesseeledger.com/williamson-county-moms-for-liberty-presents-wit-and-wisdom-led-by-robin-steenman/

Steenman and Lori Fredhim, the lead researcher on the project, spoke for nearly two hours, presenting in detail the materials they and their army of approximately 1,600 mothers have reviewed. Steenman described several areas of concern, including the teaching of; suicidal ideation, cannibalism, white supremacy and condemnation of White people, death described graphically, denigration of the nuclear family, age-inappropriate content like alcoholism or sexualized behavior in books, dark imagery, and extreme emotions discussed in books for very young children. Explaining that not everything needs to be seen through a depressing lens, at one point, Steenman said to the audience:

“I would submit: why have this book if it has all the warnings?… There’s a lot of beautiful literature out there. Pick something from that pile.”

She also explained that children “are being given books way out of their Lexile range—”meaning the books and the concepts in them are too abstract for young children to grasp.

If not for the CRT angle, this would look like the bog standard drive for social censorship that American schoool districts face on a regular basis, with everything from cannibalism to strong emotions to "big words" on the chopping block. The Concerned Moms of America are perpetually worried that children might accidentally encounter reality through a school textbook, and they don't mind sacrificing theeir own liberties to prevent this from occurring.

Has anyone warned her that if most of those complaints were taken as a given, the Bible would also have to be banned in schools? "Dark imagery" and "extreme emotions", indeed.

The Christ cult is also based on ritual cannibalism...

Only ritual cannibalism. On the other hand, the books they want to ban are only fictional cannibalism.

 

[Bomb#20]

Not having a child in the school is a double standard?

Choosing to send your children to a different school to take advantage of their curriculum and then demanding another school with a different curriculum is a double standard since it is denying those parents who choose that different curriculum the same choice you made.

So if a Catholic parent sends her child to Catholic school and also objects to state schools making children attend Anglican chapel, that's a double standard. Got it.

 

[Elixir]

Ritual necromancy, here, but still magic improvement requiring the death of another and ingesting their remains.

Good job, Keith. You effectively blur any distinction between 'Murkin mainstream superstition and that of New Guinea (or other) head hunters. Certainly the rationale for both sets of behaviors are identical.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The Christ cult is also based on ritual cannibalism...

Don't be ridiculous. The Christ cult is also based on ritual cannibalism and​ vampirism.

It's not cannibalism. That's eating the body for nourishment.

Jebus! Cannibals just always have to bring up this distinction whenever you compare Christian theology with cannibalism.

 

[ideologyhunter]

John 6:55 -- JC describes himself as food: 'For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.'
What cannibal wouldn't say Yum to that? Not to mention, "More, please!"
And as for vampires...this blood's for you.

 

[Bomb#20]

The next step is removal of anything that offends the elite conservative power structure.

Progressives calling conservatives elitist.

 

[Bomb#20]

John 6:55 -- JC describes himself as food: 'For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.'
What cannibal wouldn't say Yum to that? Not to mention, "More, please!"
And as for vampires...this blood's for you.

Careful -- I'm pretty sure the blood and flesh of Christ is almost as poisonous to vampires as the blood and flesh of werewolf.

 

[Bomb#20]

So you have a woman vaguely complaining about education material she doesn't specifically reference

It looks like the complaints Moms for Liberty have leveled run far beyond just CRT:

http://tennesseeledger.com/williamson-county-moms-for-liberty-presents-wit-and-wisdom-led-by-robin-steenman/

Steenman and Lori Fredhim, the lead researcher on the project, spoke for nearly two hours, presenting in detail the materials they and their army of approximately 1,600 mothers have reviewed. Steenman described several areas of concern, including the teaching of; suicidal ideation, cannibalism, white supremacy and condemnation of White people, death described graphically, denigration of the nuclear family, age-inappropriate content like alcoholism or sexualized behavior in books, dark imagery, and extreme emotions discussed in books for very young children...

...

and personally has no experience with how it is even taught as her child doesn't even go to that school. This is called a "red flag".

For all you know, the teaching in that school is exactly what Steenman says it is. You're in no position to dispute anything she says because you know exactly zero about what goes on there. We can tell, because you don't have a child there.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Ritual necromancy, here, but still magic improvement requiring the death of another and ingesting their remains.

Good job, Keith. You effectively blur any distinction between 'Murkin mainstream superstition and that of New Guinea (or other) head hunters. Certainly the rationale for both sets of behaviors are identical.

There's a distinction?

 

[Politesse]

It looks like the complaints Moms for Liberty have leveled run far beyond just CRT:

http://tennesseeledger.com/williamson-county-moms-for-liberty-presents-wit-and-wisdom-led-by-robin-steenman/

...

and personally has no experience with how it is even taught as her child doesn't even go to that school. This is called a "red flag".

For all you know, the teaching in that school is exactly what Steenman says it is. You're in no position to dispute anything she says because you know exactly zero about what goes on there. We can tell, because you don't have a child there.

It's as though you think we've never encountered feigned conservative outrage over some dumb bullshit before...

In any case, if she had some sort of evidence to present, you'd think she'd present it.

 

[ideologyhunter]

John 6:55 -- JC describes himself as food: 'For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.'
What cannibal wouldn't say Yum to that? Not to mention, "More, please!"
And as for vampires...this blood's for you.

Careful -- I'm pretty sure the blood and flesh of Christ is almost as poisonous to vampires as the blood and flesh of werewolf.

Doesn't every good Christian child become a vampire at First Communion? Otherwise, where's the fun in it?

 

[TomC]

The anti-Catholic stuff here is a good bit of a derail.

Just sayin'
Tom

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

The next step is removal of anything that offends the elite conservative power structure.

Progressives calling conservatives elitist.

Conservatives are not non-elitists, they are anti-intellectual. Calling someone an elitist for them is a way of garnering support from sheeple to continue to support inequality. For example, look at the Twitler Crime Family. In any case, as a person grows in wealth and power or as their established institutional structures that support their greater power become threatened, there is a tendency for them to become more conservative. That is why being conservative is more about supporting power structures than about having principles. That's why for example the Moms for Liberty group is screaming about freedom on the one hand and at the same time trying to take it away. They are dupes.

 

[ideologyhunter]

The anti-Catholic stuff here is a good bit of a derail.

Just sayin'
Tom

Personally, I like derails, within reason. What good conversation doesn't include derails?
Anyway, I didn't start the fire, it was always burnin since the world's been turnin.

 

[laughing dog]

The anti-Catholic stuff here is a good bit of a derail.

Just sayin'
Tom

You do realize that other denominations of Christianity engage in communion. So the derail - which is just a bit of fun - is anti-Christian, not anti-Catholic.

 

[Bomb#20]

For all you know, the teaching in that school is exactly what Steenman says it is. You're in no position to dispute anything she says because you know exactly zero about what goes on there. We can tell, because you don't have a child there.

It's as though you think we've never encountered feigned conservative outrage ...

Show your work. In what way is it as though that?

(I.e., did you need a "[/sarcasm]" there?)

In any case, if she had some sort of evidence to present, you'd think she'd present it.

That's not pertinent to the topic in dispute between JH and me.

 

[Bomb#20]

Progressives calling conservatives elitist.

<blah blah> sheeple <blah blah>

Good defense.