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Which movie did you watch today and how would you rate it?

I have about 6 Pacino movies on DVD and I've enjoyed watching them many times. The second movie in the series is "The Spy who Shagged Me'.

I don't remember Pacino being in that one.

;)
I don't either. Though, I do recall that Dustin Hoffman was in Star Wars.
You're not as cleaver as you seem either. Did I ever say that Pacino was in a series? I didn't think so. My fast in a hurry morning typing shouldn't be that difficult to figure out. :p Series, get it?
 
In the world in which we live in, I can only stand to watch comedies, so last night we watched "Austin Powers, International Man of Mystery". We've probably seen it at least 4 or 5 times over the years, but we needed some comic relief and that did it. Mike Myers is hilarious as both Dr. Evil and Austin Powers. "It's a smashing shagadelic party." Yeah Baby! We have all three movies in the series and might watch the next one tonight. The movie has lots of funny lines and expressions and is silly from start to finish. I can't stand serious dramas anymore. I tried to watch "Glen Gary Glen Ross" last week, which is a terrific drama that I saw many years ago, but I just couldn't pay attention. I like to laugh!
I meant to update that we finished the other two Austin Powers comedies. They are hilarious and I didn't even realize that a 19 year old Beyonce starred as Foxy Cleopatra, a part that satirizes the old Blaxploitation movies. I think it was her first film and she was great. That movie was "Goldmember."
I remember watching the first Austin Powers movie. I thought it was the stupidest movie ever made. I watched it again sometime later and I guess the humor clicked. I thought it was hilarious.
 
I have about 6 Pacino movies on DVD and I've enjoyed watching them many times. The second movie in the series is "The Spy who Shagged Me'.

I don't remember Pacino being in that one.

;)
I don't either. Though, I do recall that Dustin Hoffman was in Star Wars.
You're not as cleaver as you seem either. Did I ever say that Pacino was in a series? I didn't think so. My fast in a hurry morning typing shouldn't be that difficult to figure out. :p Series, get it?
Actually, I'm very cleaver. Haven't you noticed my username?*

* Or maybe you wrote that on purpose as a joke. Or maybe its another one of your famous typos. Eh...I don't know
 
I watched "Religulous" last night, after Bill Maher mentioned it in his latest show. I hadn't seen it in years and forgot about some of the silly things that he talked about regarding the insanity and dangers of religion. It was surprising how many religious figures agreed to let him interview them. I think it's a good movie for atheists and skeptics, but not for religious folks who don't have a sense of humor.
 
lol, the person who started this thread is named

C_Mucius_Scaevola


But I misread it as "C Mucus Scav..." I LAUGHED SO MUCH

Okay, I don't usually see movies but I need to go see the new Donald Glover movie. I heard that Craigslist was still a thing, so, I think it would be hilarious for me to post an ad on CL to ask anyone to take me out to a local theater to see "Bando Stone and the New World." WHY would it be funny?

When the first "Black Panther" movie came out, in 2018, I posted an ad on CL in what was then the Personal ads section, under Platonic, asking anyone to take me. I rarely watch movies alone, and, I was soooo broke. Among the answers to my ad was one from a "med student named 'Dan,'" who sent a non-sexual reply and said he was a white man who also wanted to see Black Panther but had no one to see it with. He said he'd take me, and, he'd even let me vape in his car first.

All of that happened specifically as stated, word for word. I'd put it in my ad, and Dan put it in his emails. We went to see Black Panther, we loved it. We vaped both before and after, and discussed our love of The Culture, of the movie, and more. We vaped again and he drove me home.

A week or so later, a man who I knew from the DL (downlow) ["THE CLOSET" - adult bookstore scene] emailed me to ask me out on a date and said he wanted to take me to see a movie. So I said I wanted to see Black Panther. He took me! We went to see Black Panther, I loved it, He was too DelCo to get it (suburban Philly, townie, white guy, closeted Bi) but we vaped both before and after, and I discussed my love of the technical aspects of the movie. He didn't.

Okay so, later on, when I was trapped in The Condo/Domestic Abuse situation, I was over age 50 and in need of a colonoscopy. I had a very hard time doing so due to the pandemic and also the fact that my abuser refused to take me to most places or appts. But I tried to schedule those appts anyway. WHY am I telling you this in the MOVIE thread? I need to follow up with my coincidence nonsense: the nurse who tried but failed to schedule my colonoscopy was a younger white man named "Dan."

IF it was the same Dan, I did not know and I never will know. That guy knew my IRL full name both times.

Later, the DelCo Dude and I went on other "picture perfect" dates. Ohh the fun. The Closet kept him in a certain place; I was his Beard.

DelCo Dude and I also saw "The Shape of Water" in 2017, which entranced me, as I found it magical and beautiful. He didn't get it. I'm HOH and even though I no longer recall details from the film, I do have a vague association of this movie with deafness. Not sure why.

Later, in 2022, I saw "Black Panther II: Wakanda Forever" with my Abuser, who was an old white man from mostly Texas, who was not a fan of The Culture, and who didn't really get the movie. He had a beard. I call him names now, such as Killer McMeannieBeard.

I thought and do think of both Black Panther movies as excellent! OH YEAH. PLUS: they're perfect examples of taking comic book stories and heroes off the pages and into the theaters; I love that. It hearkens back to movies featuring Superman, Spiderman, Batman, The Joker, and other iconic characters who came from comic books.

Sorry if I TMI'd up the movie thread. I see so few films and movies, for reasons. I love to read YOUR opinions and reviews of movies, too. Have we already gone over 2000's "The Cell," starring J Lo and two Vinces??

ETA!

"BANDO STONE and THE NEW WORLD"​


When I was a teen, I wanted my rock star stage name and/or band name to be
Banjy Toledo
because I liked "Pinky Tuscadero" who was Fonzie's rock star friend on the TV show, "Happy Days." She was played by Roz Kelly, but, I also recall a related rocker, Suzi Quatro. Okay I looked her up, she played Leather Tuscadero.
 
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Body Heat

9/10

Lawrence Kasdan's directing debut is this, pardon the pun, sizzling contemporary noir. It doesn't really do anything new in the genre, but Kasdan basically seduces the viewer with a delicious take on a lot of the standard noir conventions, helped by terrific leads Kathleen Turner, as dangerous a femme fatale as you'll ever see onscreen, and William Hurt, who, like the best of film noir saps, thinks he's in control of events when he's actually being manipulated. Ted Danson is delightfully sarcastic in a supporting role.
I looked at the trailer for this film; I don't remember seeing it. A lot of the scenes look familiar, but perhaps I only saw the trailer as a kid, when this came out. I do seem to recall William Hurt's BUTT, though. Kathleen Turner looks amazing here, but I mostly remember her from "War of the Roses," a dark comedy about a dirty divorce.

Do I correctly recall the BUTT? Because I was definitely 12 years old then and now.
 
Fly Me To The Moon
7/10

Well, don't go info this one expecting a history lesson. It's a fluffy romantic comedy that treats the actual facts of the Apollo 11 mission with playful disregard, despite many lovely shots of the NASA grounds and rockets doing their glorious thing. It did, however, have me in stitches the whole time, which is what arguably a comedy is supposed to do. It's kind of like of someone asked "What if they'd put Millenials in charge of the moon missions?"
 
The Abyss in 4K

Wow, they didn't screw this one up! Looks incredible. Doesn't detract from the sexist portrayal of the female lead, though maybe it isn't sexist and more accurate within the field?

I haven't watched this film a lot so it was still fresh, if not a tad formulaic.
What makes it sexist? James Cameron usually is really good with his portrayal of female characters. Its been so long since I saw this movie, I don't really remember the characters at all.

I am very, very fond of this film. Watch it every couple of years and usually make it compulsory for some first timer to watch it with me.

I too would like to know where the sexism comes in. Genuinely curious.

We played Death in Brunswick at the film society on Friday night. I didn't find it a hilarious as I did when I watched it in a theatre when it was released.

Tastes change, or I am growing up.
 
The Abyss in 4K

Wow, they didn't screw this one up! Looks incredible. Doesn't detract from the sexist portrayal of the female lead, though maybe it isn't sexist and more accurate within the field?

I haven't watched this film a lot so it was still fresh, if not a tad formulaic.
What makes it sexist? James Cameron usually is really good with his portrayal of female characters. Its been so long since I saw this movie, I don't really remember the characters at all.
Portrayal of the female lead as a cold hearted bitch across the board.
 
The Abyss in 4K

Wow, they didn't screw this one up! Looks incredible. Doesn't detract from the sexist portrayal of the female lead, though maybe it isn't sexist and more accurate within the field?

I haven't watched this film a lot so it was still fresh, if not a tad formulaic.
What makes it sexist? James Cameron usually is really good with his portrayal of female characters. Its been so long since I saw this movie, I don't really remember the characters at all.
Portrayal of the female lead as a cold hearted bitch across the board.
Such women do exist IRL. I've met some quite a few, in fact. What does a screenwriter do if its crucial to the story to have a female lead who is a CHB? Not make the film? Or make the lead a man instead? Or keep the lead female, but make her the passive and subservient to men type?
 
Yesterday I saw one of the WORST movies EVER...It's called "The Silver Chalice"...:oops:



Available buy, rent, Netflix, You tube , Hulu, Prime, etc...Considered one of the worst Paul Newman movies...
Did I mention the sets? :oops:

The sets are bizarre -- some of them look like miniatures made of stacked sugar cubes. Newman is wooden and clearly hates the part. Later in his life, when the film was going to show up on TV, he paid for a newspaper ad warning people not to tune in! (He said that he didn't repeat the stunt because he realized he was only drawing attention to the film.) A real wanker of a film, full of 50s religiosity -- you know, back when we had a decent, Jim Crow society.
 
The Abyss in 4K

Wow, they didn't screw this one up! Looks incredible. Doesn't detract from the sexist portrayal of the female lead, though maybe it isn't sexist and more accurate within the field?

I haven't watched this film a lot so it was still fresh, if not a tad formulaic.
What makes it sexist? James Cameron usually is really good with his portrayal of female characters. Its been so long since I saw this movie, I don't really remember the characters at all.
Portrayal of the female lead as a cold hearted bitch across the board.

I'm not sure the sexism is in the film. Or you may have been watching a different film.

Elizabeth Mastrantonio plays a competent, confident female engineer. In the film there are instances of vulnerability, playfulness, the ability to love and to sacrifice for others. She is a warm human character with a rock hard dedication to her profession, her project and the lives of the people who depend on her problem solving abilities.

I'm really sorry that you seem to think female characters should be written differently, and REALLY disappointed, Jimmy Higgins. I've never seen this in you before.

James Cameron IS good with his female characters, and this one is the gold standard for anyone wanting to write women who aren't cowering in corners, relying on men to rescue them.
 
Yesterday I saw one of the WORST movies EVER...It's called "The Silver Chalice"...:oops:



Available buy, rent, Netflix, You tube , Hulu, Prime, etc...Considered one of the worst Paul Newman movies...
Did I mention the sets? :oops:

The sets are bizarre -- some of them look like miniatures made of stacked sugar cubes. Newman is wooden and clearly hates the part. Later in his life, when the film was going to show up on TV, he paid for a newspaper ad warning people not to tune in! (He said that he didn't repeat the stunt because he realized he was only drawing attention to the film.) A real wanker of a film, full of 50s religiosity -- you know, back when we had a decent, Jim Crow society.

I warned you...:oops:
 
Thank you.

I had been confounding that film in my mind with a very different one.

That literally brought tears to my eyes and it's going on the list of suggestions for next year's Film Society offerings. (or straight to the pool room, whichever you prefer.)

Thanks again.
 
The Abyss in 4K

Wow, they didn't screw this one up! Looks incredible. Doesn't detract from the sexist portrayal of the female lead, though maybe it isn't sexist and more accurate within the field?

I haven't watched this film a lot so it was still fresh, if not a tad formulaic.
What makes it sexist? James Cameron usually is really good with his portrayal of female characters. Its been so long since I saw this movie, I don't really remember the characters at all.
Portrayal of the female lead as a cold hearted bitch across the board.

I'm not sure the sexism is in the film. Or you may have been watching a different film.

Elizabeth Mastrantonio plays a competent, confident female engineer. In the film there are instances of vulnerability, playfulness, the ability to love and to sacrifice for others. She is a warm human character with a rock hard dedication to her profession, her project and the lives of the people who depend on her problem solving abilities.

I'm really sorry that you seem to think female characters should be written differently, and REALLY disappointed, Jimmy Higgins.
Might be some stuff lost in translation.

It is the other characters and their perception of her that I am talking about. As I vaguely noted, it is possible the character set up isn't unrealistic in the field in the late 80s. IE, any woman in that position will generally be disliked because women in positions of authority and superior intellect are going to be make others feel threatened. But the trouble I have is how she is immediately sold as a stone cold bitch that no one likes, especially the female submersible pilot (who almost certainly needs to know exactly how hard shit is for Lindsey in the near male dominated field) who is used in the exposition of the plot to indicate it is okay not to like hate Lindsey. It isn't as if she walks in and you don't know how people feel. She is disliked by the staff surf side, she is disliked by the entire crew down below.

Why? Lindsey's character provides zero reason to justify any of this hatred. She presents no animosity to anyone, no disregard to the people on the crew, no sense that she feels herself as higher in importance of those below. Bud hates her because he is chauvinistic, Her ambition is vilified in light of Bud's commitment to their relationship. IE, the male's perspective of what matters most is how the observer is supposed to feel. You are supposed to like Bud, everyone does. So when he calls her a bitch, she should be. Lindsey's character is required to redeem herself for damn reason.

The story never draws more subtly that the crew is wrong about Lindsey. Of course, James Cameron isn't the greatest at plots.
 
Deleted scenes are usually deleted for good reason. I can only think of two that I wish had stayed in the movie.

One is when Galadriel distributes gifts to the departing fellows.

The other is from Abyss, when the crew of Deep Core falls into song together over various radios. That establishes the teamwork, the comradeship that Lindsey isn't a part of, that she throws out of whack by her mere presence, through no fault of her own.
 
Might be some stuff lost in translation.

It is the other characters and their perception of her that I am talking about. As I vaguely noted, it is possible the character set up isn't unrealistic in the field in the late 80s. IE, any woman in that position will generally be disliked because women in positions of authority and superior intellect are going to be make others feel threatened. But the trouble I have is how she is immediately sold as a stone cold bitch that no one likes, especially the female submersible pilot (who almost certainly needs to know exactly how hard shit is for Lindsey in the near male dominated field) who is used in the exposition of the plot to indicate it is okay not to like hate Lindsey. It isn't as if she walks in and you don't know how people feel. She is disliked by the staff surf side, she is disliked by the entire crew down below.

Why? Lindsey's character provides zero reason to justify any of this hatred. She presents no animosity to anyone, no disregard to the people on the crew, no sense that she feels herself as higher in importance of those below. Bud hates her because he is chauvinistic, Her ambition is vilified in light of Bud's commitment to their relationship. IE, the male's perspective of what matters most is how the observer is supposed to feel. You are supposed to like Bud, everyone does. So when he calls her a bitch, she should be. Lindsey's character is required to redeem herself for damn reason.

The story never draws more subtly that the crew is wrong about Lindsey. Of course, James Cameron isn't the greatest at plots.

I don't actually see your " stone cold bitch that no one likes" assertion. And we seem to have seen 2 completely different films.

Some of it I can explain (perhaps) some remains a mystery.

This is a film that I see as being made as a good film, from scratch. Not as a feminist treatise, but simply to explore what conditions of equality would look like. Defying expectations and cultural biases by showing what tweaking some of those biases would look like.

Lindsay is a passionate engineer. The people topside "dislike" her because she doesn't play the type of politics that suits thrive on. This would possibly be more acceptable to them (and you) if the engineer had been male. Women are "supposed" to be more accommodating and pliable. Lindsay knows her design is good, and fights for it.

The One Night relationship. In American films women are shown as a homogenous mass. In life we are individuals, complex and subject to real life variations. The portrayal of that is one of the reasons I love this film.

One Night would resent anyone who came down and disrupted the team she is committed to, and the boss she respects and harbours a little attraction for. The fact that Lindsay is married to Bud, and has hurt him, promotes Lindsay to "stone cold bitch" in One Night's eyes. It does not appear to be the outcome of any Bechdel interactions they may have had. It's a protective reaction. "You hurt my Bud. Grrrrr."

I don't see any of the dislike you see from the other team members. Catfish, Hippy, Jammer, Sonny all joke and play around with Lindsay, but of course she is the outsider. They have lived and worked together in close quarters for months, tolerating each other's foibles and becoming cohesive. She comes down for a couple of weeks every once in a while to evaluate and supervise. My feeling is she would be even more the outsider if not for her relationship to the Boss, that pulls her into the circle to some degree. She certainly gets a degree of acceptance that we never gave to our engineers, IRL.

"the male's perspective of what matters most is how the observer is supposed to feel. You are supposed to like Bud, everyone does. So when he calls her a bitch, she should be."

Bud calls her a bitch because he's hurt and pissed off. Human. It's one of the few times he forgets to be the even handed team facilitator.

That "male perspective" thing is one of the things I love about this film. This film denies that the male perspective is the only one. It gives each individual their own viewpoint, the lesser characters to a lesser degree.

I occurs to me that my own perceptions might be coloured by familiarity with the book, but until now the only divergence or greater exposition I was aware of was that the book gave a better sense of why Hiram Coffey was the way he was. The book and film always seemed to accord in terms of both Lindsay and Bud's personalities and motivations which makes sense. The book was an expansion, after the film, rather than the other way round.

It also occurs that we are possibly watching different edits.

This has been interesting. :)

*I edited to add and fix.
 
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