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White woman tells biracial family to ‘get out of Berkeley’ and then plays the victim when cops show up

And there was never any reason to suggest it was.

And this is important because?

To recap I said: 'So, I guess this is her?"

If it wasn't her, this is worth 4 pages of posts about me because?

Because... you conveniently left out the rest of what you said:

I hope the angry internet mob on her ass doesn't harm her efforts to improve education and peacebuilding in Rwanda.

The ONLY person around here that doxxed the wrong person was YOU. Perhaps You owe Ms. Milewski, of education and peacebuilding in Rwanda fame, an apology for misrepresenting her as a racist in California
 
Because... you conveniently left out the rest of what you said:

I hope the angry internet mob on her ass doesn't harm her efforts to improve education and peacebuilding in Rwanda.

The ONLY person around here that doxxed the wrong person was YOU. Perhaps You owe Ms. Milewski, of education and peacebuilding in Rwanda fame, an apology for misrepresenting her as a racist in California
Or dismal could stop trolling this thread with his feigned disbelief.
 
Oh, btw, Loren...

NOT a biracial couple. It doesn't matter to refute your wackadoodle claim that this was not racist, but I thought you would want to know the facts.

White woman arrested after harassing Black man and his pregnant Black partner in California

The group is multiracial, and believe she focused on Cook because he was the darkest complexioned person in attendance.

“You don’t belong here,” the woman allegedly screamed at him. “Get out of Berkeley. Get out of here. You don’t belong anywhere.”

Cook’s girlfriend and cousin both tried to intervene, but as Cook tried to encourage his girlfriend to walk away, the stranger attacked his cousin. They were pleading for her to leave them alone when the officer arrived, smelled the alcohol on her breath and assessed that she was the attacker.

In the clip, she keeps asking, “WHY?” and it’s clear Milewski is in shock that she’s the one being handcuffed and not the people she claimed mobbed her.

She was arrested on charges of being drunk in public, resisting arrest, and for violation of her probation.
https://thegrio.com/2018/07/18/white-woman-arrested-harassing-black-couple-berkley/

Racist is shocked she got arrested for assault rather than the victims she assaulted. :rolleyes:
 
Because... you conveniently left out the rest of what you said:

I hope the angry internet mob on her ass doesn't harm her efforts to improve education and peacebuilding in Rwanda.

The ONLY person around here that doxxed the wrong person was YOU. Perhaps You owe Ms. Milewski, of education and peacebuilding in Rwanda fame, an apology for misrepresenting her as a racist in California


I doxxed someone? Really? Do you know what doxxing means? I guess not.

To recap: I read a story someone posted about Lauren Milewski in Berkeley. I googled "Lauren Milewski Berkeley" and found a someone named Lauren Milewski who was affiliated with the Berkley Center. I posted "so, I guess this is her?".

In the normal human adult world this may have elicited a response like "no, I don't think it is".

Here it unleashes something that reads like an "I'm the biggest asshole on the internet" competition.
 
So, I guess this is her?

https://berkleycenter.georgetown.ed...i-director-of-curriculum-kepler-kigali-rwanda

I hope the angry internet mob on her ass doesn't harm her efforts to improve education and peacebuilding in Rwanda.
I’ve lost the ability to tell if right-wingers or professional devil advocates are trying to be funny or they actually tried to make a point. Just in case it was the later:

Berkley Center /= Berkley, California

LOL
 
To recap: I read a story someone posted about Lauren Milewski in Berkeley. I googled "Lauren Milewski Berkeley" and found a someone named Lauren Milewski who was affiliated with the Berkley Center. I posted "so, I guess this is her?".


To further recap you also posted:

I hope the angry internet mob on her ass doesn't harm her efforts to improve education and peacebuilding in Rwanda.


In the normal human adult world this may have elicited a response like "no, I don't think it is".

Only if you had simply asked "Is this the person in question?" without the commentary. And the length of the ensuing response is only due to continued deflection.
 
To further recap you also posted:




In the normal human adult world this may have elicited a response like "no, I don't think it is".

Only if you had simply asked "Is this the person in question?" without the commentary. And the length of the ensuing response is only due to continued deflection.

I think Dismal is euonymous .
 
Yeah, I keyed on that, too. Uh... Yeah, it's racism.
Even by your definition.
I have seen people of several different races promote the idea that their race should remain pure. But I've yet to see anyone trying to say that ALL races need to marry along exclusive racial lines. Like, the Asian purist doesn't care if blacks and whites intermarry. The white purist doesn't care if blacks and browns intermarry. And so on... So, they ARE promoting one race, theirs, over the outlanders.

I've encountered people that think all races should remain pure.

While it probably is racist it's not proven.
 
Oh, btw, Loren...

NOT a biracial couple. It doesn't matter to refute your wackadoodle claim that this was not racist, but I thought you would want to know the facts.





Cook’s girlfriend and cousin both tried to intervene, but as Cook tried to encourage his girlfriend to walk away, the stranger attacked his cousin. They were pleading for her to leave them alone when the officer arrived, smelled the alcohol on her breath and assessed that she was the attacker.

In the clip, she keeps asking, “WHY?” and it’s clear Milewski is in shock that she’s the one being handcuffed and not the people she claimed mobbed her.

She was arrested on charges of being drunk in public, resisting arrest, and for violation of her probation.
https://thegrio.com/2018/07/18/white-woman-arrested-harassing-black-couple-berkley/

Racist is shocked she got arrested for assault rather than the victims she assaulted. :rolleyes:

"The group is multiracial".

Now, it's likely she was racist but that is not proven.
 
Yeah, I keyed on that, too. Uh... Yeah, it's racism.
Even by your definition.
I have seen people of several different races promote the idea that their race should remain pure. But I've yet to see anyone trying to say that ALL races need to marry along exclusive racial lines. Like, the Asian purist doesn't care if blacks and whites intermarry. The white purist doesn't care if blacks and browns intermarry. And so on... So, they ARE promoting one race, theirs, over the outlanders.

I've encountered people that think all races should remain pure.

While it probably is racist it's not proven.

:rolleyes:
 
Yeah, I keyed on that, too. Uh... Yeah, it's racism.
Even by your definition.
I have seen people of several different races promote the idea that their race should remain pure. But I've yet to see anyone trying to say that ALL races need to marry along exclusive racial lines. Like, the Asian purist doesn't care if blacks and whites intermarry. The white purist doesn't care if blacks and browns intermarry. And so on... So, they ARE promoting one race, theirs, over the outlanders.

I've encountered people that think all races should remain pure.
And that goal of racial purity has nothing to do with racism because....?
 
I think the word itself has suffered from vocabularic extremism and is now so broad and encapsulating that most any thought, action, or consequences with a negative tie to even a consideration of race is being considered racist. It's a word begging for distinctions. We have words like "embezzlement" that is a narrower form of the term "theft." With "racism" so egregiously broadened at personal emotional whim with no consideration for meaning, some distinctions with definitional boundaries might help alleviate some of this one size fits all mentality. Heck, maybe it's not racism but not only wrong but worst than racism. Why minimize it by calling it racist? There needs to be clear cut necessary conditions so that we can weed out the things that we might otherwise call racism.
 
I've encountered people that think all races should remain pure.

While it probably is racist it's not proven.
Really?

What's the basis for this stance?

And as far as proven, that's a poor dodge. I mean, in science, nothing is ever proven. It is, however, the best explanation offered so far for the behavior observed. So, your 'probably' is certainly good enough, unless you've observed something that actually indicates another motivation.

Not just a kneejerk rejection of racism...
.
 
We have words like "embezzlement" that is a narrower form of the term "theft." .
But it's not wrong to call it theft. It is theft.
It's just the laws treat embezzlers different from muggers.

So if you want to standardize gradations of stupid hatred based on race into divisions and qualities, fine. Grab a thesaurus and write to the dictionary people.

But it's still racism if she's being a bitch because of someone's race.
 
I think the word itself has suffered from vocabularic extremism and is now so broad and encapsulating that most any thought, action, or consequences with a negative tie to even a consideration of race is being considered racist. It's a word begging for distinctions. We have words like "embezzlement" that is a narrower form of the term "theft." With "racism" so egregiously broadened at personal emotional whim with no consideration for meaning, some distinctions with definitional boundaries might help alleviate some of this one size fits all mentality. Heck, maybe it's not racism but not only wrong but worst than racism. Why minimize it by calling it racist? There needs to be clear cut necessary conditions so that we can weed out the things that we might otherwise call racism.

How about:

Racist
Fucking racist
“Owns casual, business, and formal white sheets” racist
 
Yeah, I keyed on that, too. Uh... Yeah, it's racism.
Even by your definition.
I have seen people of several different races promote the idea that their race should remain pure. But I've yet to see anyone trying to say that ALL races need to marry along exclusive racial lines. Like, the Asian purist doesn't care if blacks and whites intermarry. The white purist doesn't care if blacks and browns intermarry. And so on... So, they ARE promoting one race, theirs, over the outlanders.

I've encountered people that think all races should remain pure.

While it probably is racist it's not proven.

:rolleyes:
No words... should have sent a rolling eyes smilie.
 
I think the word itself has suffered from vocabularic extremism and is now so broad and encapsulating that most any thought, action, or consequences with a negative tie to even a consideration of race is being considered racist. It's a word begging for distinctions. We have words like "embezzlement" that is a narrower form of the term "theft." With "racism" so egregiously broadened at personal emotional whim with no consideration for meaning, some distinctions with definitional boundaries might help alleviate some of this one size fits all mentality. Heck, maybe it's not racism but not only wrong but worst than racism. Why minimize it by calling it racist? There needs to be clear cut necessary conditions so that we can weed out the things that we might otherwise call racism.

Out of curiosity, how WOULD you define the term?

I'm not sure I do in fact see the danger in false accusation here, aside from hurt feelings, since unlike theft or embezzlement, racism in and of itself is not a crime in any nation I am aware of. But if you were to define the term, how would you do it? And what would you sub-terms be?
 
I think the word itself has suffered from vocabularic extremism and is now so broad and encapsulating that most any thought, action, or consequences with a negative tie to even a consideration of race is being considered racist. It's a word begging for distinctions. We have words like "embezzlement" that is a narrower form of the term "theft." With "racism" so egregiously broadened at personal emotional whim with no consideration for meaning, some distinctions with definitional boundaries might help alleviate some of this one size fits all mentality. Heck, maybe it's not racism but not only wrong but worst than racism. Why minimize it by calling it racist? There needs to be clear cut necessary conditions so that we can weed out the things that we might otherwise call racism.

Out of curiosity, how WOULD you define the term?

I'm not sure I do in fact see the danger in false accusation here, aside from hurt feelings, since unlike theft or embezzlement, racism in and of itself is not a crime in any nation I am aware of. But if you were to define the term, how would you do it? And what would you sub-terms be?

Well, I don't rightly know exactly.

I wouldn't include "hatred" as a necessary condition. One can be racist and not in fact hate. Of course, a racist that hates would still be a racist. So, in that regard, that would not be a limiting factor.

I think I would include dislike. That seems like a reasonable inclusion. Of course, when I do that, many examples of purported racism is eliminated. For instance, if an action incidentally yields a negative result towards a race, any genuine lack of dislike towards the affected race would eliminate racism. I'm sure that wouldn't go over too well, but the point is to have a semblance of traditional meaning.

I think it must be a natural inclination to broaden the scope of a words meaning. I wouldn't say I've went boating just because I bought a boat, but "boat" is the root word, so if it was subjected to extremism, it would be manipulated--much how "atheist" has been and subsequently evolved. Some people think that a lie of omission is a kind of lie. It's not. It's a kind of deception. Perhaps equally as cringe worthy, but we cannot always go by the root word alone to associate meaning at our whim.

Racism includes certain things, but to act as though every facet imaginable is encompassed is to broaden current usage beyond its original scope. "Racism" is being used so broadly it's almost beyond belief. People even joke about how everything is racist. No, it's not. It's just an egregious use of it.

Consider a person that has no qualms with another race. Back in the day, that person wouldn't have been considered a racist since there's no genuine dislike of a member of that race. That's pretty narrow, but if the definition is narrow, then for illustrative purposes, a person that has other race related issues (good or bad), the person would not be a racist per se but be something else.

If Republicans do underhanded things that affect Democratic voters, it seems disingenuous to say the target is race in times when the Democrats are black. If it negatively effects blacks, and it's because they're black, then that's one thing, but if it's because they're Democrats, that's something else entirely.

I know this is falling on deaf ears, but I just think the accusations of racism must rise in an atmosphere where everything remotely related to race is included. Surely it's a bit broader than my quick stab at it, but I'm a firm believer that the meaning of words is a function of something more than what people want them to mean.
 
Yeah, I keyed on that, too. Uh... Yeah, it's racism.
Even by your definition.
I have seen people of several different races promote the idea that their race should remain pure. But I've yet to see anyone trying to say that ALL races need to marry along exclusive racial lines. Like, the Asian purist doesn't care if blacks and whites intermarry. The white purist doesn't care if blacks and browns intermarry. And so on... So, they ARE promoting one race, theirs, over the outlanders.

I've encountered people that think all races should remain pure.

While it probably is racist it's not proven.

OMFG, what?!
 
Yeah, I keyed on that, too. Uh... Yeah, it's racism.
Even by your definition.
I have seen people of several different races promote the idea that their race should remain pure. But I've yet to see anyone trying to say that ALL races need to marry along exclusive racial lines. Like, the Asian purist doesn't care if blacks and whites intermarry. The white purist doesn't care if blacks and browns intermarry. And so on... So, they ARE promoting one race, theirs, over the outlanders.

I've encountered people that think all races should remain pure.

While it probably is racist it's not proven.

OMFG, what?!

I wonder why Loren tries to defend this point so stridently.
 
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