southernhybrid
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I agree. I don't think her race is the problem. Her being a woman might be a problem. And, sadly, I know too many people that think she has no chance of winning. What I find strange is that Black women are claiming she is Black, when her mother was an Indian immigrant. She is estranged from her Black father, for whatever reason. I just read that today. I wish people would stop all the nonsense about race and treat each other as humans. Cultures and ethnicity should be appreciated, not denigrated. Oh well. Sadly people are racist and sexist.I don't think I'm being pessimistic. You live in a blue state. I live in a swing state. I have a neighbor who is a double hater at this point but he voted for Trump twice. I can't imagine him voting for Harris and he is the type of person that Harris will need to persuade to vote for her. She certainly could win the popular vote, but due to the damn electoral college, I think it will be very hard for her to win, although at this point, it would look bad not to make her the candidate. I spoke to some women today who share my feelings. We will all vote for whoever the candidate is, but the double haters, the undecided and the apathetic voters, will be hard to convince to vote for Harris. If some of my Black female friends aren't fond of Harris, but of course will vote for her, how do you think white male independents will be persuaded to vote for her? I hope I'm wrong and perhaps if she chooses the right running mate, someone who is a white male who is moderate and liked by conservatives, she may have a chance. At least in a few states. The Trump cult will be hard to beat, despite Trump being a deranged threat to the country. It's sickening to watch his cult members treat him like he's their god. Oh wait. He is their god.I will support any Democrat, but even my Black female friends aren't that fond of Harris and don't think can win enough of the states needed to win. Of course, they will vote for her as we will all vote Blue no matter who, but she needs to persuade enough independents and Republicans who can't stand Trump to support her. That's not going to be easy. She will likely be the nominee, but I'd going to be hard for her to win. I don't care what gender, color, sexual orientation etc. the Dem candidate is, as long s they can win. Yes. I'd vote for Kermit the frog over Trump and I've heard it's not easy being green.
I think your pessimism at this point is way premature. Biden has endorsed Harris, so she is the only one likely to unite her party and draw new voters to the polls, including many anti-Trump Republicans who would have real trouble voting for Biden, especially after his debate performance. This will be a factor in swing states, where the margins are thin. Don't forget that the traditional start of the campaign is not now, but in September. Biden's move has reset the clock back to where it should be, and there will be time to build momentum. I see no reason to take today's poll numbers and use those to project the winner in November. We still have many weeks of campaigning ahead of us. Harris will start out with a huge advantage in campaign funds, and she does not have to spend any of that on expensive lawyers in criminal trials. Indeed, she is a former prosecutor, which makes it appropriate for her to speak about Trump's criminal record and upcoming trials. For the first time now, every news organization wants to interview Kamala Harris.
Anyway, I'd love to be proven wrong. We will have to wait until November to see.
Yes, and I think I understand your pessimism, but we are both influenced by the small circle of people we interact with, including those in this forum. So we need to look for objective sources of information to support our opinions, and that will likely develop with polling information between now and November. I do think that Harris will get a bump from the normal second chance reset that voters give candidates. Even Donald Trump has benefited from that effect. I don't think that Harris being a woman of color will make as much difference as people think it will, although it is certain to have an effect on some votes. The net losses may be offset by net gains, because what turns off some voters turns on other voters.
I am hoping that some enthusiasm can build up behind Harris. The chance of that happening will depend on whether she makes any major stumbles and gaffes. Your own state is a purple state, so it may be that there are enough anti-Trump Republicans that will prefer Harris over Trump and serve to offset whatever pro-Biden votes she might lose because of gender and race. She may motivate more people of color, young people, and women. Who can say at this point? All I can say is that I feel relieved that Biden has dropped out. I think that he would have dragged down a lot more Democratic campaigns if he had remained in the race.
Polls don't persuade me. Remember all the polls that favored Hillary? That didn't work out so well. I'm one of those people who is bombarded with polls and I never answer them. I assume I get them because I live in a purple state that has two Democratic Senators, and is run by Republicans on the state level. Sadly, I know too many people who only vote in presidential elections.
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*stomps my cane*
