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Well... it's Trump... again. #47, here we go.

pood said:
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unapologetic said:
I wonder what the IQ is of the genius that created the site.
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I saw that “all presidents” piece, back when.
First thought - it probably drew its estimates on verbal skills only, based on attributed writings. I doubt that they held any time-controlled closed book tests to determine John Tyler’s mathematical acumen, but they might have given him points for graduating college at 17.
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If that is the same site I saw, it ranks Trump as an IQ of 156 — purely on his say-so. :rolleyes: The rankings are complete rubbish.
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I thought 156 was his weight....
 
There isn't much left to say about this Supreme Court bench. After hinting at possibly taking Trump's actions up to now, against him, they have decided to allow, without any comment, third-nation deportations.
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The U.S. Supreme Court cleared the way on Monday for President Donald Trump's administration to resume deporting migrants to countries other than their own without offering them a chance to show the harms they could face, handing him another victory in his aggressive pursuit of mass deportations.

In an action that prompted a sharp dissent from its three liberal justices, the court granted the administration's request to lift a judicial order requiring that migrants set for deportation to so-called "third countries" get a "meaningful opportunity" to tell U.S. officials they are at risk of torture at their new destination, while a legal challenge plays out.

Boston-based U.S. District Judge Brian Murphy had issued the order on April 18.

The Supreme Court's brief order was unsigned and offered no reasoning, as is common when it decides emergency requests. The court has a 6-3 conservative majority.
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The Supreme Court has decided deference to the judgment of the Executive Branch is more important than judging what this Administration has already done. The Trump Admin deserves no "benefit of the doubt".
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
There isn't much left to say about this Supreme Court bench. After hinting at possibly taking Trump's actions up to now, against him, they have decided to allow, without any comment, third-nation deportations.
article said:
The U.S. Supreme Court cleared the way on Monday for President Donald Trump's administration to resume deporting migrants to countries other than their own without offering them a chance to show the harms they could face, handing him another victory in his aggressive pursuit of mass deportations.

In an action that prompted a sharp dissent from its three liberal justices, the court granted the administration's request to lift a judicial order requiring that migrants set for deportation to so-called "third countries" get a "meaningful opportunity" to tell U.S. officials they are at risk of torture at their new destination, while a legal challenge plays out.

Boston-based U.S. District Judge Brian Murphy had issued the order on April 18.

The Supreme Court's brief order was unsigned and offered no reasoning, as is common when it decides emergency requests. The court has a 6-3 conservative majority.
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The Supreme Court has decided deference to the judgment of the Executive Branch is more important than judging what this Administration has already done. The Trump Admin deserves no "benefit of the doubt".
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And meanwhile..

CNN —

Top Justice Department leaders — including President Donald Trump’s former personal defense lawyer nominated for a prestigious judgeship — intended to ignore court orders and tried to mislead federal judges in the administration’s aggressive deportation effort this spring, a Justice Department lawyer who was fired recently said in a whistleblower letter obtained by CNN.

The letter, which was sent to members of Congress and independent investigators within the executive branch Tuesday, is likely to prompt greater scrutiny of Emil Bove, who has been serving as the principal associate deputy attorney general. Bove faces a Senate committee hearing Wednesday on his nomination to the 3rd US Circuit Court of Appeals.

The whistleblower, Erez Reuveni, who worked on the case of the mistakenly deported immigrant Kilmar Abrego Garcia, says Bove in a March meeting “stated that DOJ would need to consider telling the courts ‘f**k you’” and ignore any orders to stop the hasty deportation of migrants to a prison in El Salvador.

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Reuveni told a federal judge in Maryland that the administration had made a mistake when the US deported Abrego Garcia to a Salvadoran prison in March. Reuveni was placed on administrative leave shortly after.


He says he also refused orders from leadership to file a legal argument in court that he believed would be “contrary to law, frivolous and untrue,” according to the whistleblower letter.
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DOJ intended to ignore and deceive the federal courts? No really? I would never have guessed.

 
Trump administration scrambles to rehire key federal workers after DOGE firings
And this line about sums it up.

Max Stier, CEO of the Partnership for Public Service, said the moves to eliminate, and then reinstate, many federal workers “shows the mosaic of incompetence and a failure on the part of this administration to understand the critical value that the breadth of government expertise provides.”
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Has there been in modern times an administration so inept and incompetent as this one?

 
Well, according to my friends who watch Fox News, the previous administration was the worst ever in the history of the country. Followed by the administration that was in office from 2008 to 2016.
 
Trump ceases trade talks with Canada after Canada decides to fight back. Trump has got to be the most fragile asshole on the planet.

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U.S. President Donald Trump abruptly cut off trade talks with Canada on Friday over its tax targeting U.S. technology firms, saying that it was a "blatant attack" and that he would set a new tariff rate on Canadian goods within the next week.

The move plunges U.S.-Canada relations back into chaos after a period of relative calm that included a cordial G7 meeting in mid-June where Trump and Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney agreed to wrap up a new economic agreement within 30 days.

It also came just hours after U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent struck an upbeat tone on trade, touting progress had been made with China on reviving the flow of critical minerals for the U.S. manufacturing sector and in other key tariff negotiations.
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Will adults ever be in charge of this country again?
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
Trump ceases trade talks with Canada after Canada decides to fight back. Trump has got to be the most fragile asshole on the planet.

article said:
U.S. President Donald Trump abruptly cut off trade talks with Canada on Friday over its tax targeting U.S. technology firms, saying that it was a "blatant attack" and that he would set a new tariff rate on Canadian goods within the next week.

The move plunges U.S.-Canada relations back into chaos after a period of relative calm that included a cordial G7 meeting in mid-June where Trump and Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney agreed to wrap up a new economic agreement within 30 days.

It also came just hours after U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent struck an upbeat tone on trade, touting progress had been made with China on reviving the flow of critical minerals for the U.S. manufacturing sector and in other key tariff negotiations.
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Will adults ever be in charge of this country again?
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Art of the Deal, baby!!
 
Is Sen. Tillis going to re-enact Sen. McCain's actions? It was McCain's vote that put the save on ACA. It might be one vote that sinks the One Beautiful Bill $3+ trillion deficit increasing deficit reduction bill.
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The bill would extend expiring tax cuts from Trump’s first term and includes deductions the White House hopes will spur economic growth. It includes a trio of Trump’s populist campaign promises — no taxes on tips, overtime wages or auto loan interest — and adds $6,000 to the standard deduction for seniors. During the 2024 campaign, Trump pitched ending taxes on Social Security benefits, but the idea was not in the bill.

For the private sector, the legislation would give corporations larger deductions for research and development, depreciating assets and interest on large purchases.

The bill would cut $1.1 trillion from health benefits programs, according to the CBO. And, by 2034, nearly 12 million people would lose health insurance coverage.
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The GOP currently holds a 53 to 47 caucus advantage. Sen. Paul, Tillis, Murkowski, and Collins NO votes would stop passage of the bill. Three would just leave JD Vance to cast the tiebreaking vote.

If it does pass, it needs to be repassed by the House. In theory, this could be difficult as a lot of the teeth were pulled after review of the bill as required for passing under Reconciliation. But, the GOP in the House are generally bombastic while almost always bowing to the will of the party leadership in the in end. So, the bill not passing would seem most likely to be a Senate thing. And it is very far from a sure thing. I'd say Murkowski and Tillis are safe. Tillis isn't running for re-election all over this bill. Collins and Paul... I'm uncertain.
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
If it does pass, it needs to be repassed by the House. In theory, this could be difficult as a lot of the teeth were pulled after review of the bill as required for passing under Reconciliation. But, the GOP in the House are generally bombastic while almost always bowing to the will of the party leadership in the in end. So, the bill not passing would seem most likely to be a Senate thing. And it is very far from a sure thing. I'd say Murkowski and Tillis are safe. Tillis isn't running for re-election all over this bill. Collins and Paul... I'm uncertain.
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If Tillis is the canary in the coal mine, he just busted out from the cage and said "I'm never going down in the mine again."

Used to be that the "11th Commandment" (from Reagan) was "thou shalt never speak ill of another Republican."

Now it's "thou shalt not question Dear Leader." The list of Republicans who are no longer in government because they dared to question Trump is growing. Will Tillis be the last? When Trump inevitably kicks the bucket (of KFC) who will be appointed anointed as the new Leader?
 
Senate passes the bill 50-50 with Vance's thumbs up. Murkowski folded with the GOP giving Alaska as much as they could, or somewhat cutting Alaska out of the cuts for all of the other 49 states.
 
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I'm old enough to remember that the Fox-News buzzphrase at that time (repeated heavily on message boards like this one) was that the Obamacare legislation was "being rammed down our throats." You know, that legislation that was discussed in the 2008 election debates, officially called for by Barack Obama on February 2009 and signed into law thirteen months later. Why, heads were spinning it came down the chute so fast, amiright?

Just goes to show you, it's far easier to tear something down than to build something up. Thanks, GOP. Your ability to cause destruction is on display.
 
Three Republicans — Sens. Rand Paul (Kentucky), Thom Tillis (North Carolina) and Susan Collins (Maine) — voted against the bill. The fifty other Republican Senators have sold their souls, and reserved permanent places in Judecca, in the Ninth Circle of Hell.

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"Does the big beautiful bill raise taxes on the lowest-paid Americans?"

Key Impacts on Low‑Income Earners
Reduced income for the bottom 20%​
A Yale Budget Lab analysis finds the bottom quintile (roughly those earning under $13,350/year) would see their incomes drop by about 2.9% (around $700/year) from 2026–2034​
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Bottom 10% lose more on average​
The CBO estimates show the lowest-income households would lose $1,600 annually, while the top 10% gain about $12,000/year​
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Cuts to Medicaid and SNAP outweigh any tax breaks​
Deep cuts to Medicaid, SNAP, and other aid programs — along with stricter work requirements — will reduce federal benefits by hundreds of billions over the coming decade​
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A MAGAT witness's testimony confirms that it's even worse than ChatGPT claims.
 
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