How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[barbos]

So I strongly disagree that videos are more informative.

Total bullshit. Given the same person writing and speaking, speaking (asuming they can speak) is infinitely more informative.
But if you have some listening impediment you are free to read most of the people I post here.
Jeffrey Sachs writes well and so is Mearseheimer, and so is Latyinina.
And why are we even talking about that instead of the content?

The fact is, Russian so-called opposition to Putin exists only in the hrads of such degenerates as Lindsey Graham (McCain's head is rotting in the grave) and CNN talking heads.
To be fair, I don't believe Graham believes a single word he is saying, he is merely does what his backers with money tells him to do.

 

[Bronzeage]

So I strongly disagree that videos are more informative.

Total bullshit. Given the same person writing and speaking, speaking (asuming they can speak) is infinitely more informative.
But if you have some listening impediment you are free to read most of the people I post here.
Jeffrey Sachs writes well and so is Mearseheimer, and so is Latyinina.
And why are we even talking about that instead of the content?

The fact is, Russian so-called opposition to Putin exists only in the hrads of such degenerates as Lindsey Graham (McCain's head is rotting in the grave) and CNN talking heads.
To be fair, I don't believe Graham believes a single word he is saying, he is merely does what his backers with money tells him to do.

You and Lindsey have a lot in common.

 

[Patooka]

OK so Putin's asset in the White House is back to saying that Putin should be rewarded by Ukraine giving up territory for Russia to stop its war.

History shows that rewarding a bully is always a bad idea.

Why is Trump so obviously willing to give Putin exactly what he wants?

After Putin Summit, Trump Backs Plan to Cede Land in Ukraine: Live Updates

After meeting the Russian president, President Trump told European leaders he now favors giving up territory Ukraine controls to Russia to end the fighting, a concession Ukraine has long opposed.

www.nytimes.com

Well, this isn't a surprise to me (although I think that its Ukraine that needs to decide if they want to trade land for peace, it is their land!). To me, the greater issue is even if Ukraine agrees to these terms; how are they protected from future invasion?

Crimea has your answer, in case you're wondering.

 

[bilby]

That's weird, coming from a guy who like to explain Trump behavior.

Please feel free to either withdraw this false claim, or to quote me "explain[ing] Trump behaviour".

 

[bilby]

Latynina is not random individual, he has subscribers.

 

[bilby]

the truth is, even your talking heads you listen to don't believe the shit you believe.

The truth (of which you are apparently uncaring) is that you can't name a single "talking head I listen to", so you are necessarily full of shit.

 

[bilby]

Stop talking nonsense, nobody is buying it.

That's excellent advice; Someone should give it to you.

 

[barbos]

So I strongly disagree that videos are more informative.

Total bullshit. Given the same person writing and speaking, speaking (asuming they can speak) is infinitely more informative.
But if you have some listening impediment you are free to read most of the people I post here.
Jeffrey Sachs writes well and so is Mearseheimer, and so is Latyinina.
And why are we even talking about that instead of the content?

The fact is, Russian so-called opposition to Putin exists only in the hrads of such degenerates as Lindsey Graham (McCain's head is rotting in the grave) and CNN talking heads.
To be fair, I don't believe Graham believes a single word he is saying, he is merely does what his backers with money tells him to do.

You and Lindsey have a lot in common.

Nope, he is your hero. He and Yaroslav Hunka and other nazi shit are all your heroes.

 

[barbos]

the truth is, even your talking heads you listen to don't believe the shit you believe.

The truth (of which you are apparently uncaring) is that you can't name a single "talking head I listen to", so you are necessarily full of shit.

For someone who claims to not listen to talking heads you parrot them surprisingly well.

 

[barbos]

Speaking of russian (belorussian in this case) "opposition". Lukashenko recently pardoned Tikhanovsky.
Boy oh boy, people say Elensky is a clown (and he is), this guy is some piece of work, even his wife does not look happy to see him. The guy is so bad that one has to wonder if this some kind of prank.

 

[bilby]

the truth is, even your talking heads you listen to don't believe the shit you believe.

The truth (of which you are apparently uncaring) is that you can't name a single "talking head I listen to", so you are necessarily full of shit.

For someone who claims to not listen to talking heads you parrot them surprisingly well.

Notably, this response does not include the name of a "talking head I listen to".

I still don't know who I am supposedly parroting. But I can assure you, I have better things to do with my time than listen to any "talking heads". So it was a trick question.

 

[barbos]

the truth is, even your talking heads you listen to don't believe the shit you believe.

The truth (of which you are apparently uncaring) is that you can't name a single "talking head I listen to", so you are necessarily full of shit.

For someone who claims to not listen to talking heads you parrot them surprisingly well.

Notably, this response does not include the name of a "talking head I listen to".

I still don't know who I am supposedly parroting. But I can assure you, I have better things to do with my time than listen to any "talking heads". So it was a trick question.

You're parroting CNN.

 

[barbos]

Missed that. Ignorance of so-called "civilized" world is mind boggling.

Victims of Communism memorial faces call to remove over 330 names linked to Nazis, fascists

A Canadian Heritage report obtained by the Ottawa Citizen recommends removing more than 330 names from the memorial.

ottawacitizen.com

The Department of Canadian Heritage is being told that more than half of the 550 names on the Memorial to the Victims of Communism should be removed because of potential links to the Nazis or questions about affiliations with fascist groups, according to government records.

no comments from the usual suspects, even when it's text instead of video.

 

[TV and credit cards]

It looks like at least Finnish President Stubbs will be going with Zelensky to Washington tomorrow and perhaps NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte, both of which have some favorable relationship with Trump. I can't say friendly, the only friend Trump ever had hung himself in prison. At least the two of them can educate Trump on how untrustworthy Putin is. All Trump will be thinking about is how to get a Nobel Peace Prize. This shameful piece of shit actually called Norway's Finance and Prime Ministers to discuss it.
With any peace agreement, European nations will provide support including troops as security guarantees to Ukraine and Trump indicated the US will also provide some support. Stubbs and Rutte will try and dissuade Trump from rewarding Putin for his egregious act. I think it should be made clear to Trump that acquiescing to a bully is not deserving of a Nobel Peace Prize.
Rutte congratulated Trump on his decisive action on Iran. They need to convince Trump of the same with regards to Russia. We need to blow up that fucking bridge already. Let Putin know minutes before it happens so he knows there is no deeper threat within Russa. I'll bet he blinks. Putin's a pussy.

 

[Toni]

So I strongly disagree that videos are more informative.

Total bullshit. Given the same person writing and speaking, speaking (asuming they can speak) is infinitely more informative.
But if you have some listening impediment you are free to read most of the people I post here.
Jeffrey Sachs writes well and so is Mearseheimer, and so is Latyinina.
And why are we even talking about that instead of the content?

The fact is, Russian so-called opposition to Putin exists only in the hrads of such degenerates as Lindsey Graham (McCain's head is rotting in the grave) and CNN talking heads.
To be fair, I don't believe Graham believes a single word he is saying, he is merely does what his backers with money tells him to do.

I am entitled to my opinion. You are entitled to disagree. Some people prefer to read to gain information. Some people prefer to listen or observe. I stopped watching most news years ago because it was clear to me that I was watching a performance, not a dissemination of information, with the performance heavy on agenda, light on actual fact. True from both right and left leaning sources. I find reading removes some of the hyperbole so often present in much of today’s news.

You are e titled to your preferred method of accessing the news. I am e titled to mine.

I cannot imagine thinking that Lindsey Graham was a reliable or even semi competent source of information.

 

[barbos]

New POP (President Of Poland) calls Regime in Kiev degenerate and murderous, well, by implication, but he does.

 

[Toni]

So I strongly disagree that videos are more informative.

Total bullshit. Given the same person writing and speaking, speaking (asuming they can speak) is infinitely more informative.
But if you have some listening impediment you are free to read most of the people I post here.
Jeffrey Sachs writes well and so is Mearseheimer, and so is Latyinina.
And why are we even talking about that instead of the content?

The fact is, Russian so-called opposition to Putin exists only in the hrads of such degenerates as Lindsey Graham (McCain's head is rotting in the grave) and CNN talking heads.
To be fair, I don't believe Graham believes a single word he is saying, he is merely does what his backers with money tells him to do.

You and Lindsey have a lot in common.

Nope, he is your hero. He and Yaroslav Hunka and other nazi shit are all your heroes.

Wow. You truly are not smart. Or sober. Not sure which.

I don’t know a single American who believes a word out of Grahams mouth. Of course I don’t live in his district.

 

[barbos]

I am entitled to my opinion.

Your opinion is shit.

I don’t know a single American who believes a word out of Grahams mouth

Well, you certainly believe him when he talks about Ukraine conflict.
So you are factually incorrect.

 

[barbos]

I stopped watching most news years ago because it was clear to me that I was watching a performance,

I guess you form your opinion on your own historical research and observations.
Cool, So when was the last time you worked with documents in archives and interviewed russians, ukrainians and CIA?

 

[Toni]

I am entitled to my opinion.

Your opinion is shit.

I don’t know a single American who believes a word out of Grahams mouth

Well, you certainly believe him when he talks about Ukraine conflict.
So you are factually incorrect.

WHY do you think I believe Graham????? I know nothing about whatever he has to say. I don't pay any attention to him at all and don't intend to until I read notice of his passing.