Fraud in Minnesomalia

[GenesisNemesis]

I just wanted to add some info that I didn’t have before: The person who was executive director of Feeding Our Future in the Minnesota fraud case is a white woman.

She and her co-conspirator were convicted in March of this year.

Her co conspirator just happens to be her Somali boyfriend .

He wasn’t her boyfriend.

Right wingers love to just make shit up.

 

[thebeave]

There is a whole, separate thread about the Minnesota fraud. Why are we posting about that in this thread?

You’re correct. My fault. I meant to post in the Minnesota fraud thread but must have had two threads open.

My apologies. If mods think it is important and not too much trouble, maybe the posts could be moved to the appropriate thread?

Again, apologies.

No need to apologize so profusely. Its not like you ran over my kitty or anything.

 

[Toni]

There is a whole, separate thread about the Minnesota fraud. Why are we posting about that in this thread?

You’re correct. My fault. I meant to post in the Minnesota fraud thread but must have had two threads open.

My apologies. If mods think it is important and not too much trouble, maybe the posts could be moved to the appropriate thread?

Again, apologies.

No need to apologize so profusely. Its not like you ran over my kitty or anything.

Most of the apology was for the mods for whom I accidentally made some extra work.

You should keep your cat inside for its own wellbeing.

 

[TSwizzle]

I was thinking of Bock's live in Somali boyfriend, Empress Malcolm Watson Jr who was charged with other frauds.

 

[Toni]

I was thinking of Bock's live in Somali boyfriend, Empress Malcolm Watson Jr who was charged with other frauds.

AFAIK, he’s not Somali or Somali-Americam

 

[TSwizzle]

More Somali fraud, this time in Maine.

Maine lawmaker is calling for an investigation into the director of a health services company accused of defrauding the state’s Medicaid program while running for office in Somalia. Abdullahi Ali, in an interview with Kenyan media, openly discussed contributing money back to Somalia and paramilitary forces. In the interview, first reported by The Maine Wire in March, said: “When I was away and abroad, the financial contributions I was sending back were being used to support the forces for buying bullets, ammunition and food,” Ali posted to his own presidential media page.

News

 

[pood]

Oh gosh, now “Somali fraud” is becoming a meme.

The biggest fraudster of all is in the Oval Office. And I guess that indicts all white men in America as fraudsters.

 

[southernhybrid]

With all due respect, skin color and gender seem to matter a great deal to you.

Wrong. I think people should be treated equally by law regardless of race and gender.

My point is culture. Somalia has a largely Islamist culture, which means that most Somalis are incompatible with western culture. And yet, our country indiscriminately let a lot of Somalis in.
Or look at Islamists who have taken over cities like Hamtramck and Dearborn in Michigan.

How many cities can people who identify as Muslim take over, when they make up about 1.1% of the US population? Some research suggests that they make up almost 3% but according to the link I'll add, those are not as accurate.

https://factually.co/fact-checks/society/percentage-muslims-united-states-7e0469

The share of Muslims in the United States is small but varies by source and methodology: most recent analyses place the figure around 1.0–1.1 percent of the U.S. population today, while alternative estimates and some counts yield higher figures up to about 3 percentdepending on definitions and datasets; long‑term projections foresee growth to roughly 2.1 percent by 2050. The differences reflect disparate data sources—large national surveys, religion censuses, population estimates, and projection models—and the headline takeaway is that estimates cluster near one percent now but diverge based on methods and timeframes <a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...er-americans-religiously-and-demographically/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">[1]</a> <a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...show-u-s-muslim-population-continues-to-grow/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">[2]</a> <a href="https://www.statista.com/topics/13415/muslims-in-the-united-states/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">[3]</a>

It's the conservative White Christian Nationalists that are a potential threat, not the tiny percentage of Muslims. Plus, the few Muslims I've met were very liberal, decent people, so why do you denigrate them as if they were all dangerous people who want to take over areas of the country? That is as stupid as an acquaintance of mine who thinks Muslims are going to destroy our "Christian nation". Yes. She's a white conservative Christian who still supports the most dangerous, mentally deranged president we've ever had, who is also a convicted criminal.

Earth to Derec. There are both liberal versions and extremist versions in all religions.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Apparently, CEO of MyPillow, fascist collaborator, and retired crack addict Mike Lindell is going to run for governor of Minnesota.

So, now, we can see why this story directed at Walz has developed.

 

[TSwizzle]

FBI Director Kash Patel said the agency has surged additional personnel and investigative resources to Minnesota as part of an ongoing effort to "dismantle large-scale fraud schemes exploiting federal programs."
Patel said Sunday that the bureau moved resources into the state before recent online attention intensified, pointing to the Feeding Our Future investigation, which uncovered a $250 million scheme that siphoned federal food aid intended for children during the COVID-19 pandemic.

The case has already resulted in 78 indictments and 57 convictions, with prosecutors also charging defendants in a separate plot to bribe a juror with $120,000 in cash, Patel said, adding that the investigation remains ongoing. "The FBI believes this is just the tip of a very large iceberg. We will continue to follow the money and protect children, and this investigation very much remains ongoing," he wrote on X. "Furthermore, many are also being referred to immigrations officials for possible further denaturalization and deportation proceedings where eligible."

News

Independent journalist Nick Shirley investigating the fraud in childcare services

 

[Tigers!]

Hiding behind pedantry fools no one.

Unlike you, I am not trying to fool anybody. And the distinction I am making is not pedantic either.

The issue is that Somalia has a culture incompatible with the West. Vast majority of the population are Islamists.
Mass migration from places like that (same goes for, say, Afghanistan more recently) allows for no sufficient vetting and you let a lot of people in who have no business immigrating into the West.

Does that mean all Somalis are incompatible with western culture? Of course not! That would be bigoted (still not racist though) because it generalizes. But our immigration system as it has been run for decades has been letting in a lot of Islamists, criminals and other incompatible mass migrants.
We need to be more selective when it comes to immigration.

How is Somali culture ‘incompatible with the West?’ I’m sincerely interested.

FGM
Ayaan Hirsi ALI talks of FGM in Somalia extensively. I suspect that her knowledge of the practice far exceeded yours and mine combined.

 

[Tigers!]

Apparently, CEO of MyPillow, fascist collaborator, and retired crack addict Mike Lindell is going to run for governor of Minnesota.

So, now, we can see why this story directed at Walz has developed.

If it started or continued on his (Walz) watch and he did nothing about it then he should except the brickbats.

 

[laughing dog]

Hiding behind pedantry fools no one.

Unlike you, I am not trying to fool anybody. And the distinction I am making is not pedantic either.

The issue is that Somalia has a culture incompatible with the West. Vast majority of the population are Islamists.
Mass migration from places like that (same goes for, say, Afghanistan more recently) allows for no sufficient vetting and you let a lot of people in who have no business immigrating into the West.

Does that mean all Somalis are incompatible with western culture? Of course not! That would be bigoted (still not racist though) because it generalizes. But our immigration system as it has been run for decades has been letting in a lot of Islamists, criminals and other incompatible mass migrants.
We need to be more selective when it comes to immigration.

How is Somali culture ‘incompatible with the West?’ I’m sincerely interested.

FGM
Ayaan Hirsi ALI talks of FGM in Somalia extensively. I suspect that her knowledge of the practice far exceeded yours and mine combined.

Circumcision is part of Jewish culture. Do you think Jewish culture is “incompatible with the West”?

Or is your point there are aspects of Somali culture that are incompatible with the West?

 

[laughing dog]

Apparently, CEO of MyPillow, fascist collaborator, and retired crack addict Mike Lindell is going to run for governor of Minnesota.

So, now, we can see why this story directed at Walz has developed.

If it started or continued on his (Walz) watch and he did nothing about it then he should except the brickbats.

It did start under his administration. But his administration alerted the FBI, so they did do something. Just not enough.

 

[Toni]

Hiding behind pedantry fools no one.

Unlike you, I am not trying to fool anybody. And the distinction I am making is not pedantic either.

The issue is that Somalia has a culture incompatible with the West. Vast majority of the population are Islamists.
Mass migration from places like that (same goes for, say, Afghanistan more recently) allows for no sufficient vetting and you let a lot of people in who have no business immigrating into the West.

Does that mean all Somalis are incompatible with western culture? Of course not! That would be bigoted (still not racist though) because it generalizes. But our immigration system as it has been run for decades has been letting in a lot of Islamists, criminals and other incompatible mass migrants.
We need to be more selective when it comes to immigration.

How is Somali culture ‘incompatible with the West?’ I’m sincerely interested.

FGM
Ayaan Hirsi ALI talks of FGM in Somalia extensively. I suspect that her knowledge of the practice far exceeded yours and mine combined.

FMG is not practiced by the Somali diaspora in Minnesota. Many girls and women were subjected to this barbaric practice in Somalia and are receiving treatment in the US.

 

[TSwizzle]

FMG is not practiced by the Somali diaspora in Minnesota. Many girls and women were subjected to this barbaric practice in Somalia and are receiving treatment in the US.

If that were true there wouldn’t be laws against it and there wouldn’t be extensive support services for victims of it.

 

[Tigers!]

Apparently, CEO of MyPillow, fascist collaborator, and retired crack addict Mike Lindell is going to run for governor of Minnesota.

So, now, we can see why this story directed at Walz has developed.

If it started or continued on his (Walz) watch and he did nothing about it then he should except the brickbats.

It did start under his administration. But his administration alerted the FBI, so they did do something. Just not enough.

So he must accept responsibility then.

 

[Tigers!]

Hiding behind pedantry fools no one.

Unlike you, I am not trying to fool anybody. And the distinction I am making is not pedantic either.

The issue is that Somalia has a culture incompatible with the West. Vast majority of the population are Islamists.
Mass migration from places like that (same goes for, say, Afghanistan more recently) allows for no sufficient vetting and you let a lot of people in who have no business immigrating into the West.

Does that mean all Somalis are incompatible with western culture? Of course not! That would be bigoted (still not racist though) because it generalizes. But our immigration system as it has been run for decades has been letting in a lot of Islamists, criminals and other incompatible mass migrants.
We need to be more selective when it comes to immigration.

How is Somali culture ‘incompatible with the West?’ I’m sincerely interested.

FGM
Ayaan Hirsi ALI talks of FGM in Somalia extensively. I suspect that her knowledge of the practice far exceeded yours and mine combined.

Circumcision is part of Jewish culture. Do you think Jewish culture is “incompatible with the West”?

Or is your point there are aspects of Somali culture that are incompatible with the West?

I was responding to Toni's comment about "How is Somali culture with the West?"
Merely gave her an example of a cultural incompatibility. That particular aspect of culture us most certainly not compatible with the West.
There might be others that are not yet mentioned.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Apparently, CEO of MyPillow, fascist collaborator, and retired crack addict Mike Lindell is going to run for governor of Minnesota.

So, now, we can see why this story directed at Walz has developed.

If it started or continued on his (Walz) watch and he did nothing about it then he should except the brickbats.

It also started and continued under Trump 1's administration and these are largely federal crimes and there were many other federal fraud crimes nation-wide. Was each governor responsible for each federal crime committed in their state during Trump 1's administration?

 

[laughing dog]

FMG is not practiced by the Somali diaspora in Minnesota. Many girls and women were subjected to this barbaric practice in Somalia and are receiving treatment in the US.

If that were true there wouldn’t be laws against it and there wouldn’t be extensive support services for victims of it.

Hiding behind pedantry fools no one.

Unlike you, I am not trying to fool anybody. And the distinction I am making is not pedantic either.

The issue is that Somalia has a culture incompatible with the West. Vast majority of the population are Islamists.
Mass migration from places like that (same goes for, say, Afghanistan more recently) allows for no sufficient vetting and you let a lot of people in who have no business immigrating into the West.

Does that mean all Somalis are incompatible with western culture? Of course not! That would be bigoted (still not racist though) because it generalizes. But our immigration system as it has been run for decades has been letting in a lot of Islamists, criminals and other incompatible mass migrants.
We need to be more selective when it comes to immigration.

How is Somali culture ‘incompatible with the West?’ I’m sincerely interested.

FGM
Ayaan Hirsi ALI talks of FGM in Somalia extensively. I suspect that her knowledge of the practice far exceeded yours and mine combined.

Circumcision is part of Jewish culture. Do you think Jewish culture is “incompatible with the West”?

Or is your point there are aspects of Somali culture that are incompatible with the West?

I was responding to Toni's comment about "How is Somali culture with the West?"
Merely gave her an example of a cultural incompatibility. That particular aspect of culture us most certainly not compatible with the West.
There might be others that are not yet mentioned.

That’s a yes to my 2nd question, but I don’t see the answer to 1st one.