The Cold Blooded Murder Of Renee Good

[Elixir]

Every authority-caused death is investigated to some degree.

Did you misspell “should be”?

GOP Goes All-Out to Prevent Accountability for Agent Who Shot Renee Nicole Good​

 

[Colonel Sanders]

Every authority-caused death is investigated to some degree.

Did you misspell “should be”?

GOP Goes All-Out to Prevent Accountability for Agent Who Shot Renee Nicole Good​

Well, was investigated until now.

I've never seen anything like this here; the highest leader in the land rushing to support an agent's killing of a civilian before any investigation could be performed and then ensuring that no investigation would be done.

The standard is to say that no judgment should be made until the authorities investigate the matter. The obvious reason for that is to calm the situation so that things don't get worse. Instead, the Orange Shitpants is egging things on as are his shithead minions and propaganda outlets. In turn, his empty headed followers nod their heads in agreement and take joy in the 100% preventable death of a person whose primary crime was likely a traffic violation.

I've said many times before that Trump could and would institute a paramilitary force and would have no problem recruiting people for it. It just turns out in this instance that ICE was the way it would be implemented.

I guess we'll have to wait until November to see if we're officially done as a democracy although we may have to wait until 2028.

 

[Playball40]

That's no excuse. When you have a gun it is your responsibility to refrain from shooting (at) anyone without justificiation.

It was an involuntary (automatic) shooting. There was not any time to think.
I put the blame on the other agent.

Is that why he called her a fucking bitch after he killed her and refused to allow a medical doctor to provide aid?

If someone trying to run over you would call them that too and do so involuntary.
As for the doctors, police procedures do not allow that I was told.

And that would be incorrect.

No, ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) cannot legally deny necessary medical care, especially emergency or critical treatment, to individuals in their custody.

 

[Toni]

After you shot them in the face?

No, before. From a point of view of the ICE officer she was trying to run over him.

I have a question for you. You are all bitching about how ICE and even ordinary police are bad and poorly trained and still support engaging them in a way that put people at risk of getting killed due to said lack of training. Why are you doing that?
Why are you supporting this?

You are quite mistaken. I do not support ICE, full stop. I do support well trained police and military, training in thorough understanding of constitutional rights and de-escalation as integral parts of such training. Further, I support adequate, even excellent care and treatment of PTSD and mental health for all members of any military or police, and indeed, for everyone.

 

[Elixir]

I guess we'll have to wait until November

I think you better hold off until January. That’s Trump’s favorite month to stage insurrections and prevent transfers of power. He will probably have I.C.E. arrest all the winning democrats.

 

[Elixir]

It’s sad seeing Playball, Toni etc trying to educate babs as if he was an honest broker in conversation.

 

[bilby]

I don't think this is what we expected

Why on Earth not? It's been pretty obvious that the Trump "administration" are a bunch of bullies, grifters and thieves, and we have plenty of historical precedent for what happens when such people get hold of a nation state.

You thought your country was special and different, and that these clowns would be too ashamed, and too frightened of being ridiculed, to rock the boat. And you thought your comfortable middle class was too concerned with maintaining the status quo to allow it. Just like the Germans did in the 1920s and '30s.

But instead, the clowns recruited a State Security Police and gave them carte blanche to kill anyone who ridicules them.

And all your fellow citizens who were banging on about taking up arms to defend the country are cheering them on.

It was all so depressingly predictable. It was exactly what I expected. But Americans refuse to believe that they are just like everyone else, so they are all 'surprised Pikachu' about being taken over by a bunch of crooks, in exactly the same way that so many other nations have been.

But America has a Constitution that defends liberty. Well, it did, but the State Security Police just murdered someone with impunity, so that Constitution appears to be just another piece of paper.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Officer who killed Good "suffered" from "internal bleeding" presumably from "injury" sustained in incident.

"The officer was hit by the vehicle. She hit him. He went to the hospital. A doctor did treat him. He has been released," Noem told reporters on Jan. 7.

Ross, a 10-year law enforcement veteran with ICE, was seriously injured in June in a separate incident in the Minneapolis area when he was dragged by a car during an attempted arrest, requiring 33 stitches and hospital care, court records show.

U.S. Border Patrol Commander Gregory Bovino told CBS News in an interview Sunday that Ross "has had several threats against his life," adding, "he's in a safe location. He's recovering from those injuries, and we're thankful that he's recovering."

Effectively a bruise can be considered "internal bleeding" if you are willing to abuse the English language enough. It is a miracle he survived being possibly nudged by a vehicle moving up to 5 mph.

 

[ZiprHead]

Every authority-caused death is investigated to some degree. If someone dies from being tased due e.g. for a heart condition, it's investigated because the circumstances need to be sussed out.

It should be and usually is. Standard practice is any fed police shooting is automatically investigated. This one is being blocked.

Four DOJ prosecutors in Washington resigned, as I said before. Now six more prosecutors in the Minnesota DOJ office have resigned because the investigation is being blocked.

 

[ZiprHead]

That's no excuse. When you have a gun it is your responsibility to refrain from shooting (at) anyone without justificiation.

It was an involuntary (automatic) shooting. There was not any time to think.
I put the blame on the other agent.

Is that why he called her a fucking bitch after he killed her and refused to allow a medical doctor to provide aid?

If someone trying to run over you would call them that too and do so involuntary.
As for the doctors, police procedures do not allow that I was told.

Police procedure is that the police there are supposed to immediately render aid. They did not do so.

As a matter of fact, the physician who asked to render aid and was refused was told by the ICE agents that they have aid on scene. Yet no aid showed up for fifteen minutes. And the paramedics could not even get a gurney to transport the victim, blocked by ICE, so the paramedics had to carry Good by her arms and legs a good distance back to the ambulance.

 

[ZiprHead]

Was it really the murderer who said "fucking bitch" in the video?

Good point too. But in the end of the day it does not matter. People curse involuntary in such situations.

What? The ICE agent has Tourettes?

 

[Toni]

Was it really the murderer who said "fucking bitch" in the video?

Good point too. But in the end of the day it does not matter. People curse involuntary in such situations.

What? The ICE agent has Tourettes?

Well, they don’t have proper training, or legal authority to kidnap or murder US citizens so I guess they need something.

 

[Playball40]

Officer who killed Good "suffered" from "internal bleeding" presumably from "injury" sustained in incident.

"The officer was hit by the vehicle. She hit him. He went to the hospital. A doctor did treat him. He has been released," Noem told reporters on Jan. 7.

Ross, a 10-year law enforcement veteran with ICE, was seriously injured in June in a separate incident in the Minneapolis area when he was dragged by a car during an attempted arrest, requiring 33 stitches and hospital care, court records show.

U.S. Border Patrol Commander Gregory Bovino told CBS News in an interview Sunday that Ross "has had several threats against his life," adding, "he's in a safe location. He's recovering from those injuries, and we're thankful that he's recovering."

Effectively a bruise can be considered "internal bleeding" if you are willing to abuse the English language enough. It is a miracle he survived being possibly nudged by a vehicle moving up to 5 mph.

I don't even believe this much.

 

[ZiprHead]

Officer who killed Good "suffered" from "internal bleeding" presumably from "injury" sustained in incident.

"The officer was hit by the vehicle. She hit him. He went to the hospital. A doctor did treat him. He has been released," Noem told reporters on Jan. 7.

Ross, a 10-year law enforcement veteran with ICE, was seriously injured in June in a separate incident in the Minneapolis area when he was dragged by a car during an attempted arrest, requiring 33 stitches and hospital care, court records show.

U.S. Border Patrol Commander Gregory Bovino told CBS News in an interview Sunday that Ross "has had several threats against his life," adding, "he's in a safe location. He's recovering from those injuries, and we're thankful that he's recovering."

Effectively a bruise can be considered "internal bleeding" if you are willing to abuse the English language enough. It is a miracle he survived being possibly nudged by a vehicle moving up to 5 mph.

I don't even believe this much.

"Court records." Not medical records.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Officer who killed Good "suffered" from "internal bleeding" presumably from "injury" sustained in incident.

"The officer was hit by the vehicle. She hit him. He went to the hospital. A doctor did treat him. He has been released," Noem told reporters on Jan. 7.

Ross, a 10-year law enforcement veteran with ICE, was seriously injured in June in a separate incident in the Minneapolis area when he was dragged by a car during an attempted arrest, requiring 33 stitches and hospital care, court records show.

U.S. Border Patrol Commander Gregory Bovino told CBS News in an interview Sunday that Ross "has had several threats against his life," adding, "he's in a safe location. He's recovering from those injuries, and we're thankful that he's recovering."

Effectively a bruise can be considered "internal bleeding" if you are willing to abuse the English language enough. It is a miracle he survived being possibly nudged by a vehicle moving up to 5 mph.

I don't even believe this much.

"Court records." Not medical records.

Court records show was regarding when he broke a person's rear car window and then got his arm stuck.

 

[ZiprHead]

Officer who killed Good "suffered" from "internal bleeding" presumably from "injury" sustained in incident.

"The officer was hit by the vehicle. She hit him. He went to the hospital. A doctor did treat him. He has been released," Noem told reporters on Jan. 7.

Ross, a 10-year law enforcement veteran with ICE, was seriously injured in June in a separate incident in the Minneapolis area when he was dragged by a car during an attempted arrest, requiring 33 stitches and hospital care, court records show.

U.S. Border Patrol Commander Gregory Bovino told CBS News in an interview Sunday that Ross "has had several threats against his life," adding, "he's in a safe location. He's recovering from those injuries, and we're thankful that he's recovering."

Effectively a bruise can be considered "internal bleeding" if you are willing to abuse the English language enough. It is a miracle he survived being possibly nudged by a vehicle moving up to 5 mph.

I don't even believe this much.

"Court records." Not medical records.

Court records show was regarding when he broke a person's rear car window and then got his arm stuck.

He should have fucking known better.

 

[Elixir]

It is a miracle he survived being possibly nudged by a vehicle moving up to 5 mph.

Was he? Not evident in any video I’ve seen. Of course Blondi or the dog shooter might have the super secret evidence that nobody else is privileged enough to see …

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

It is a miracle he survived being possibly nudged by a vehicle moving up to 5 mph.

Was he? Not evident in any video I’ve seen. Of course Blondi or the dog shooter might have the super secret evidence that nobody else is privileged enough to see …

Edited for context.

 

[Patooka]

I guess we'll have to wait until November to see if we're officially done as a democracy

It's fair to say it was given up a while back. The winner of every Presidential Election is "did not vote".

 

[Tigers!]

The Four Seconds Everyone Missed

Could you summarize his points?

He shows that while Ms Goode’s car is in reverse, the killer is pulling his firearm out. So he had decided to shoot before he was in “danger”.

He had time to pull his gun out, so he also had time to step backwards away from any alleged danger to him, but chose the bad option of these two instead, and then compounded it by actually shooting with the gun, and several times.

My twin fears:

Soon, very soon, people will begin to fight back. I’m talking about someone shoving a blade into the belly of an out of control ICE agent.

The other fear?

Nobody will.

People have started running ICE agents away from some locations. I am surprised that with all the continuous propaganda over decades about American individualism that there have not already been actual attacks on ICE agents, especially since they are engaged in illegal activities. If this murderer isn't prosecuted (and that seems likely since FBI is in charge of investigation and they have been suborned by Trump) then things could escalate to reactive violence triggered by this incident and the responses to it by Trump, Vance, Noem, and the FBI.

Had the police responded in likewise force against the January 6th protesters, scores of people would have been killed.

I don't see any sixers using cars during storming. And police we know was outnumbered and could not do anything.

The fact the J6 police were outnumbered is justification for them using guns, as also the fact they actually were in danger (unlike where most cases of 'they feared for their lives' is baloney). Their actual non-violent response shows how restrained they were in their behaviour, and is a credit to their professionalism and decency. The one shooting by a police officer, that of Ashli Babbitt, was totally justified, as she was committing a felony and attempting to enable a mass attack by the subversives.

Not a right to arbitrarily block passage on a road. I need to get a permit to do as such. Though I'm uncertain what happened before the video, why her car was like that and why a video was started to start with.

Those questions are reasonable ones.
When I look at videoes about incidents like this I am always wondering why have we not seen? What happened seconds before the video started. Context does matter.
She should not have been shot and killed.
But what was happneing 10secs before the videoes we see?

What happened ten seconds beforehand is totally irrelevant.

And you absolutely know that because of your super powers?