How should west respond to Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[TV and credit cards]

Ukraine is holding a pretty good hand right now.

Do you think now might be a good time for Zelensky to tell Trump “You don’t have any cards!”?
I think there’s a chance it could precipitate a terminal cardio event, so it’s worth a try.

Sadly I think Trump could stop any US defense collaboration with Ukraine including Starlink comms. As near as I can tell, SpaceX kicking Russian military off Starlink terminals was a very big deal.
I didn't read this at the time but this article from Feb 5 states the significance of the shutdown.
A big battlefield setback for Moscow

 

[barbos]

That's where a thousand Russians die every week

Sorry to disappoint you but Kiev regime is not that efficient. But they are doing their worst.
Today they attacked a passanger bus, killing several people there.

At this point in the war, passenger buses are all the Russian Army has left.

If you say so. But that was a passenger bus travelling from Moscow to Simferopol with civilians including .... poles.
Fact it, you support terrorist regime in Kiev.

 

[barbos]

As for Kiev, If Russian thinks killing old people and children helps their war effort,

It's actually Kiev regime who is killing children and old people.

There's a lot of children and old people in Russian refineries?

go and tell that to parents of these girls killed in that college hit by 16 ukrainian drones.
[Snip]

 

[ZiprHead]

As for Kiev, If Russian thinks killing old people and children helps their war effort,

It's actually Kiev regime who is killing children and old people.

There's a lot of children and old people in Russian refineries?

go and tell that to parents of these girls killed in that college hit by 16 ukrainian drones.
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Nope. Russia did it to blame it on Ukraine. Vlad doesn't care about who dies for him.

 

[Harry Bosch]

As for Kiev, If Russian thinks killing old people and children helps their war effort,

It's actually Kiev regime who is killing children and old people.

There's a lot of children and old people in Russian refineries?

go and tell that to parents of these girls killed in that college hit by 16 ukrainian drones.
[Consistency]

Your side kills civilians in Ukraine every single day. And your side is prolonging the war! You have zero reason to whine.

 

[Bronzeage]

That's where a thousand Russians die every week

Sorry to disappoint you but Kiev regime is not that efficient. But they are doing their worst.
Today they attacked a passanger bus, killing several people there.

At this point in the war, passenger buses are all the Russian Army has left.

If you say so. But that was a passenger bus travelling from Moscow to Simferopol with civilians including .... poles.
Fact it, you support terrorist regime in Kiev.

It's good of you to spread the word about what war actually costs. Putin went into this war expecting it to have no impact on Russians at home and that plan isn't working out very well. If you want to do your part for world peace, tell all your friends and neighbors about what happens when the enemy starts shooting back. In any case, blaming Ukraine instead of a drunken Russian bus driver works out well for everyone.

It's probably not a good idea to tell them what you do for a living. When this is over, they'll be looking for someone to blame and a Kremlin disinformation is as good a scapegoat as any.

 

[Toni]

It's not like Russia is that much different in their recruiting methods.

I don't recall seeing kidnapping men on the street in Russia. I mean stories of bus driver on a bus stopped and taken away while transporting passengers.

So it IS different.

...in that the authorities in Russia make a big song and dance when it happens in Ukraine, but tightly censor it when it happens in Russia.

It does not happen in Russia and authorities do not make any songs and dances about it happening in Ukraine.

You don’t understand the idiom.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

As for Kiev, If Russian thinks killing old people and children helps their war effort,

It's actually Kiev regime who is killing children and old people.

There's a lot of children and old people in Russian refineries?

go and tell that to parents of these girls killed in that college hit by 16 ukrainian drones.

That wouldn't be helpful... the girls are dead and can't work in those refineries. Besides, saying your complaint is tone deaf would be the understatement of the year.

 

[SLD]

It’s just minor damage. Nothing to worry about.

Right Barbos? Even if it is St. Petersburg, and an oil terminal. Even if it is in the middle of your showcase economic forum.

 

[Tigers!]

It’s just minor damage. Nothing to worry about.

Right Barbos? Even if it is St. Petersburg, and an oil terminal. Even if it is in the middle of your showcase economic forum.

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That is just smoke from the previous night's fireworks display. (Just giving Barbos a hand here)

 

[barbos]

It’s just minor damage. Nothing to worry about.

The picture does not show any damage.
here is an example of picture showing minor damage:

https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-860w,f_auto,q_auto:best/rockcms/2026-03/260330-damaged-E-3-Sentry-2-rs-5cb31f.jpg

 

[barbos]

That's where a thousand Russians die every week

Sorry to disappoint you but Kiev regime is not that efficient. But they are doing their worst.
Today they attacked a passanger bus, killing several people there.

At this point in the war, passenger buses are all the Russian Army has left.

If you say so. But that was a passenger bus travelling from Moscow to Simferopol with civilians including .... poles.
Fact it, you support terrorist regime in Kiev.

It's good of you to spread the word about what war actually costs. Putin went into this war expecting it to have no impact on Russians at home and that plan isn't working out very well. If you want to do your part for world peace, tell all your friends and neighbors about what happens when the enemy starts shooting back. In any case, blaming Ukraine instead of a drunken Russian bus driver works out well for everyone.

Putin did not start this war, you did.

 

[barbos]

BBC "journalist" got into hot water in Saint Petersburg Economic forum over Ukrainian terrorist attack on a passenger bus.

 

[barbos]

 

[Bronzeage]

That's where a thousand Russians die every week

Sorry to disappoint you but Kiev regime is not that efficient. But they are doing their worst.
Today they attacked a passanger bus, killing several people there.

At this point in the war, passenger buses are all the Russian Army has left.

If you say so. But that was a passenger bus travelling from Moscow to Simferopol with civilians including .... poles.
Fact it, you support terrorist regime in Kiev.

It's good of you to spread the word about what war actually costs. Putin went into this war expecting it to have no impact on Russians at home and that plan isn't working out very well. If you want to do your part for world peace, tell all your friends and neighbors about what happens when the enemy starts shooting back. In any case, blaming Ukraine instead of a drunken Russian bus driver works out well for everyone.

Putin did not start this war, you did.

Is that the best you have? As much as you admire my intelligence and power, I have to confess that I did not start this war.

I have a question you may be able to answer. Why have so many people who live in St. Petersburg posting videos on the internet of large plumes of smoke rising from the northern part of the city? Was this some kind of welcome for people attending the Economic Conference. A nice gift basket may have been a better option.

 

[barbos]

Is that the best you have? As much as you admire my intelligence and power

What's more to have? BoJo proudly admitted that he started the war.

 

[barbos]

I have a question you may be able to answer. Why have so many people who live in St. Petersburg posting videos on the internet of large plumes of smoke rising from the northern part of the city? Was this some kind of welcome for people attending the Economic Conference. A nice gift basket may have been a better option.

 

[Bronzeage]

Ukraine is holding a pretty good hand right now.

Do you think now might be a good time for Zelensky to tell Trump “You don’t have any cards!”?
I think there’s a chance it could precipitate a terminal cardio event, so it’s worth a try.

Sadly I think Trump could stop any US defense collaboration with Ukraine including Starlink comms. As near as I can tell, SpaceX kicking Russian military off Starlink terminals was a very big deal.
I didn't read this at the time but this article from Feb 5 states the significance of the shutdown.
A big battlefield setback for Moscow

In the next few years, the US is going to spend untold billions on drone technology, which is to say military contractors are going to make untold billions. Right now, Ukraine has more drone technology and more importantly AI drone technology than anyone in the world. Cutting Starlink for the Russians was a simple economic decision. It had nothing to do with support for Ukraine. What it's all about is that Ukraine has the power to create a real trillionaire by choosing who gets the data they have compiled over the past four years.

 

[Elixir]

Ukraine has the power to create a real trillionaire

Who, exactly, is Ukraine? The Zelenskyy government? Do they want to be the wholesalers of death and destruction?

And who has the best tech for killing the most advanced drones “on the cheap”? Go philanthropy!!
But the most important question -
How long before we can put aside a million or so square kilometers in the Gobi desert, and hold our wars there Mano a Mano, drone vs drone, instead of waking people up in the middle of the night with annoying explosions in like, residential or municipal areas?

 

[Tigers!]

It’s just minor damage. Nothing to worry about.

The picture does not show any damage.

Where there is smoke there is fire.