Odds of Trump just dropping out

[T.G.G. Moogly]

Trumps speech to recruit Sander supporters here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgEHDTEd6Fo

Based on comments here I won't expect many of you to listen to any of this but one thing that stood out for me is when he said: "Hillary's campaign slogan is I'm with her. But my slogan is I'm with you. America first."

It was a hell of a speech IMO. I'm actually a Bernie supporter and a registered democrat but still found it hard to disagree with any he said.

Politicians say lots of thing so people vote them into office. It's best to look at a person's record, and a voting record if they've held office. I wouldn't give a wooden nickel for anything a politician says.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Trumps speech to recruit Sander supporters here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgEHDTEd6Fo

Based on comments here I won't expect many of you to listen to any of this but one thing that stood out for me is when he said: "Hillary's campaign slogan is I'm with her. But my slogan is I'm with you. America first."

It was a hell of a speech IMO. I'm actually a Bernie supporter and a registered democrat but still found it hard to disagree with any he said.

You are a Bernie supporter, but find Trump interesting? You should be careful making such statements. People can die when the meters start blowing.

There is absolutely no fucking appeal to Trump other than... there is no fucking appeal. Clinton with tow the Establishment line? Trump is the fucking Establishment! This idea is barely less idiotic than when tea baggers were supporting Newt Gingrich in the primaries in '12.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

So what does this have to do with banking regulations?

It has to do with your reasoning (him not caring) for why he wouldn't act in the middle class's best interest regarding bank regulations.

Firstly, he is too detached to even know what the middle class needs. He's been rich his entire life and has shown absolutely no indication he understands what it is like to be in the Middle Class. Secondly, why should he give a fuck? Because he says he cares, like his alleged love of the military, when he has given more to the Clinton Foundation than the military prior to the election? He is a liar, a habitual liar.

 

[KeepTalking]

Why not? Trump doesn't give a fuck. Trump has never shown he has given fuck based on Trump University and the shilling jobs he has done putting his name on products that have failed. Also the whole not paying people for work thing.

You're not bracketing up. If he works for a business, expect him to side with his personal well-being over the company to which he works. If he owns a business, expect him to side with the success of the business, community fallout be damned.

Then let's look at his record in this regard. We see him leaving a slew of failed business behind, businesses he owned, while continuing to personally enrich himself. Expect no difference if you put him in charge of the country. He won't give a shit about the USA, just what is in it for him. That is his modus operandi, and you have to be blind, almost willfully so, not to see it.

 

[lpetrich]

He destroyed the entire field because the 60%-70% of the (Republican) electorate who voted against him couldn't unite around a single candidate.

That will not be a problem in November...

In the 2016-horse-race thread, I'd posted on a poll that used a preference ballot. The people polled put the Republican candidates into the order of their preference: first choice, second choice, etc. The polled ones were split on Donald Trump, either rating him very high or else very low -- the lowest.

The preferences were counted up using the Instant Runoff Voting algorithm, and as the count continued, candidates dropped out. Donald Trump picked up a lot of votes only very late in the count. The one who got a majority was Ted Cruz, and he got it by a narrow margin, and Donald Trump was the only other candidate who made it that far.

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

Donald Trump the government servant. Does anyone else find that ridiculously idiotic? There must be a lot of dumb voters in the U.S.

 

[Sarpedon]

I suspect that not a few of Trump's supporters want him to burn Washington down. The idea that he'd be a poor president is all part of the appeal.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I suspect that not a few of Trump's supporters want him to burn Washington down. The idea that he'd be a poor president is all part of the appeal.

Naw, they think he is the messiah for DC. To finally bring back some common, straight from the gut, sense.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

I suspect that not a few of Trump's supporters want him to burn Washington down. The idea that he'd be a poor president is all part of the appeal.

Naw, they think he is the messiah for DC. To finally bring back some common, straight from the gut, sense.

Yes, I imagine that most of them would have far less of a problem with Washington being a corrupt hellhole run almost entirely off of bribery if they were the one on the benefitting end of that bribery.

 

[Elixir]

Naw, they think he is the messiah for DC. To finally bring back some common, straight from the gut, sense.

Yes, I imagine that most of them would have far less of a problem with Washington being a corrupt hellhole run almost entirely off of bribery if they were the one on the benefitting end of that bribery.

That's exactly what Trump tells them they WILL be.
Everybody gonna be a billionaire from fleecing everyone else, just like teh Donald. How that can flush in the "minds" of his acolytes is beyond me.

 

[blastula]

If Trump quits, it won't be till the convention. He can't resist a week long event devoted to him.

 

[fast]

You're not bracketing up. If he works for a business, expect him to side with his personal well-being over the company to which he works. If he owns a business, expect him to side with the success of the business, community fallout be damned.

Then let's look at his record in this regard. We see him leaving a slew of failed business behind, businesses he owned, while continuing to personally enrich himself. Expect no difference if you put him in charge of the country. He won't give a shit about the USA, just what is in it for him. That is his modus operandi, and you have to be blind, almost willfully so, not to see it.

But it's a stretch to say he don't care. If things begin to fall apart as president (oh say, an immenint impeachment), then yes, survival mode kicks in and America doesn't remain his number one prority, but to think he'd get in and not care very much about bringing his genius to bear on making the US prosper like never before is a bias bread on bad reasoning.

There may be many things in the past he has done that he wouldn't do as president. You can't live by the saying, "once a thief, always a thief." People of a particular caliber cannot be properly judged by track record. I think he is fantastically full of crap, but to say he won't care when put in the position to effect great change is not even remotely guaranteed by his actions of past roles.

 

[Elixir]

You can't live by the saying, "once a thief, always a thief." People of a particular caliber cannot be properly judged by track record.

What particular caliber would that be? Billionaires? I hardly take wealth as the measure of a person. In truth, we have nothing other than past performance by which to reasonably judge any presidential candidate. If the fact that Trump has no track record in the political arena says that he might be a completely different person as president, one has to ask whether that different person might be (even more of) a stark raving loon, or if he is more likely to magically turn into a saint.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Then let's look at his record in this regard. We see him leaving a slew of failed business behind, businesses he owned, while continuing to personally enrich himself. Expect no difference if you put him in charge of the country. He won't give a shit about the USA, just what is in it for him. That is his modus operandi, and you have to be blind, almost willfully so, not to see it.

But it's a stretch to say he don't care.

There is nothing to indicate otherwise. Trump loves Trump. That is about the only known about the guy.

If things begin to fall apart as president (oh say, an immenint impeachment), then yes, survival mode kicks in and America doesn't remain his number one prority, but to think he'd get in and not care very much about bringing his genius to bear on making the US prosper like never before is a bias bread on bad reasoning.

His genius? The guy owned Qarth for fuck sakes. 50% of his self proclaimed wealth is based on the image of his last name.

There may be many things in the past he has done that he wouldn't do as president. You can't live by the saying, "once a thief, always a thief." People of a particular caliber cannot be properly judged by track record.

Seeing that he doesn't have a political record to go by and he has switched a ton of positions, pretty much his business record (Trump University wasn't 10 years ago) is the only thing to go by.

I think he is fantastically full of crap, but to say he won't care when put in the position to effect great change is not even remotely guaranteed by his actions of past roles.

That is a red herring. People aren't exclusively saying "he won't care". He doesn't have the skills to be President. He doesn't have the skills to appoint people to advise him as President. He doesn't have the skills for diplomacy. He is one of the most ill suited people to be on a major party ticket in the history of the country.

 

[Shadowy Man]

It was a hell of a speech IMO. I'm actually a Bernie supporter and a registered democrat but still found it hard to disagree with any he said.

But as we know, this isn't the only thing he has said in the campaign.

I find it hard to believe anything Trump says because he's clearly a pathological liar living in a fantasy world of his own delusions.

 

[fast]

He doesn't have the skills to appoint people to advise him as President.

Dang, I didn't know he was that bad.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Given his age, what are the odds of him just dropping dead?

 

[Tristan Scott]

But it's a stretch to say he don't care. If things begin to fall apart as president (oh say, an immenint impeachment), then yes, survival mode kicks in and America doesn't remain his number one prority, but to think he'd get in and not care very much about bringing his genius to bear on making the US prosper like never before is a bias bread on bad reasoning.

There may be many things in the past he has done that he wouldn't do as president. You can't live by the saying, "once a thief, always a thief." People of a particular caliber cannot be properly judged by track record. I think he is fantastically full of crap, but to say he won't care when put in the position to effect great change is not even remotely guaranteed by his actions of past roles.

I agree that what he has done in the past isn't the issue. The issue with most of us is what hw says he's going to do if he's elected. We'd be totally fucked for a generation if was able to do what he says he would do.

 

[Colonel Sanders]

Then let's look at his record in this regard. We see him leaving a slew of failed business behind, businesses he owned, while continuing to personally enrich himself. Expect no difference if you put him in charge of the country. He won't give a shit about the USA, just what is in it for him. That is his modus operandi, and you have to be blind, almost willfully so, not to see it.

But it's a stretch to say he don't care. If things begin to fall apart as president (oh say, an immenint impeachment), then yes, survival mode kicks in and America doesn't remain his number one prority, but to think he'd get in and not care very much about bringing his genius to bear on making the US prosper like never before is a bias bread on bad reasoning.

There may be many things in the past he has done that he wouldn't do as president. You can't live by the saying, "once a thief, always a thief." People of a particular caliber cannot be properly judged by track record. I think he is fantastically full of crap, but to say he won't care when put in the position to effect great change is not even remotely guaranteed by his actions of past roles.

I've never had bias bread. I've had banana bread though, and it's pretty good as long as some assface doesn't put raisins in it.

Anyway, Trump's track record is ass and he has an ass for a face.

And through the power of logic, it is obvious that he puts raisins in banana bread.

 

[Elixir]

He doesn't have the skills to appoint people to advise him as President.

Dang, I didn't know he was that bad.

Look at his senior campaign advisors - the ones I've seen on TV all look like Jabba the Hutt. Just what's needed to dispel the perception that Trump is a greedy pig.