Trump just won

[Elixir]

Yeah, because his track record of achieving success is simply unparalleled. Do you also think the world is flat?

If you can join a party you've not belong to before; say you'll be its nominee for President; withstand constant attacks from within and without that party to nonetheless beat everyone else; come back repeatedly from nearly everyone saying you'll gonna fail at every stage; beat the media-anointed first woman president in an election where pretty much every poll says you'll lose; and then turn Wisconsin and Michigan red for the first time since Reagan; that would be unparalleled.

If you accomplish all of that via a constant stream of vicious insults, populist lies and impossible promises that only a gullible moron would believe, repeated ad nauseum by a transfixed media... it would be an unparalleled bit of stupidity to think he could do a good job as an actual President of an actual country.

 

[credoconsolans]

Yeah, because his track record of achieving success is simply unparalleled. Do you also think the world is flat?

If you can join a party you've not belong to before; say you'll be its nominee for President; withstand constant attacks from within and without that party to nonetheless beat everyone else; come back repeatedly from nearly everyone saying you'll gonna fail at every stage; beat the media-anointed first woman president in an election where pretty much every poll says you'll lose; and then turn Wisconsin and Michigan red for the first time since Reagan; that would be unparalleled.

He did fail.

The popular vote was not for him.

Unfortunately, the people don't get a direct vote.

 

[Trausti]

If you accomplish all of that via a constant stream of vicious insults, populist lies and impossible promises that only a gullible moron would believe, repeated ad nauseum by a transfixed media...

Er, you're referring to Hillary?

 

[credoconsolans]

If you accomplish all of that via a constant stream of vicious insults, populist lies and impossible promises that only a gullible moron would believe, repeated ad nauseum by a transfixed media...

Er, you're referring to Hillary?

Please explain how you think this fits Hillary.

 

[Trausti]

If you can join a party you've not belong to before; say you'll be its nominee for President; withstand constant attacks from within and without that party to nonetheless beat everyone else; come back repeatedly from nearly everyone saying you'll gonna fail at every stage; beat the media-anointed first woman president in an election where pretty much every poll says you'll lose; and then turn Wisconsin and Michigan red for the first time since Reagan; that would be unparalleled.

He did fail.

The popular vote was not for him.

Unfortunately, the people don't get a direct vote.

He did not fail, obviously. He knew he needed to take a rust belt state to win. That's why he visited those states so often. Clinton didn't visit Wisconsin even once during the campaign. Trump knew it was the electoral votes that matter. Clinton, apparently not.

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Er, you're referring to Hillary?

Please explain how you think this fits Hillary.

So what where were you for the last few months?

 

[credoconsolans]

He did fail.

The popular vote was not for him.

Unfortunately, the people don't get a direct vote.

He did not fail, obviously. He knew he needed to take a rust belt state to win. That's why he visited those states so often. Clinton didn't visit Wisconsin even once during the campaign. Trump knew it was the electoral votes that matter. Clinton, apparently not.

He won the electoral college. The people (popular vote) did not want him.

Er, you're referring to Hillary?

Please explain how you think this fits Hillary.

So what where were you for the last few months?

Reading how you were corrected for each criticism. And here you are again, pretending your criticisms weren't already owned.

 

[LordKiran]

Yeah, because his track record of achieving success is simply unparalleled. Do you also think the world is flat?

If you can join a party you've not belong to before; say you'll be its nominee for President; withstand constant attacks from within and without that party to nonetheless beat everyone else; come back repeatedly from nearly everyone saying you'll gonna fail at every stage; beat the media-anointed first woman president in an election where pretty much every poll says you'll lose; and then turn Wisconsin and Michigan red for the first time since Reagan; that would be unparalleled.

Before I say this understand that I do not mean to draw unreasonable comparisons to the man as I feel that's going too far, but with that all said:

I doubt very many people could imagine Hitler coming to power under relatively similar circumstances what with his big promises of prosperity for the german people.

I don't draw this comparison to suggest Trump is a Nazi, I do it to showcase that when people are pushed to desperation, they will take drastic actions to secure their future.

 

[Trausti]

He did not fail, obviously. He knew he needed to take a rust belt state to win. That's why he visited those states so often. Clinton didn't visit Wisconsin even once during the campaign. Trump knew it was the electoral votes that matter. Clinton, apparently not.

He won the electoral college. The people (popular vote) did not want him.

Er, you're referring to Hillary?

Please explain how you think this fits Hillary.

So what where were you for the last few months?

Reading how you were corrected for each criticism. And here you are again, pretending your criticisms weren't already owned.

Wut? I guess, unlike you, I didn't view Hillary Clinton as an angel sent from heaven to save up from a guy who is literally Hitler. I certainly consider some Clinton supporters as gullible morons. Alot of groupthink there.

 

[credoconsolans]

If you can join a party you've not belong to before; say you'll be its nominee for President; withstand constant attacks from within and without that party to nonetheless beat everyone else; come back repeatedly from nearly everyone saying you'll gonna fail at every stage; beat the media-anointed first woman president in an election where pretty much every poll says you'll lose; and then turn Wisconsin and Michigan red for the first time since Reagan; that would be unparalleled.

Before I say this understand that I do not mean to draw unreasonable comparisons to the man as I feel that's going too far, but with that all said:

I doubt very many people could imagine Hitler coming to power under relatively similar circumstances what with his big promises of prosperity for the german people.

I don't draw this comparison to suggest Trump is a Nazi, I do it to showcase that when people are pushed to desperation, they will take drastic actions to secure their future.

Except Trump supporters aren't desperate. They're upset they're not getting their way. They're upset that they're losing their privileged position in society. They're upset that their religion no longer dominates. They're upset that their education level no longer guarantees them a steady good, paying job (it never did. Unions did that for them).

Desperate? Hardly. Whining, armchair martyrs more like.

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He won the electoral college. The people (popular vote) did not want him.

Er, you're referring to Hillary?

Please explain how you think this fits Hillary.

So what where were you for the last few months?

Reading how you were corrected for each criticism. And here you are again, pretending your criticisms weren't already owned.

Wut? I guess, unlike you, I didn't view Hillary Clinton as an angel sent from heaven to save up from a guy who is literally Hitler. I certainly consider some Clinton supporters as gullible morons. Alot of groupthink there.

Who said I did?

I know the difference between a candidate who is 70% honest and one that's 10% honest. You apparently don't.

 

[TSwizzle]

Except Trump supporters aren't desperate. They're upset they're not getting their way. They're upset that they're losing their privileged position in society.

:laughing-smiley-014 The snowflakes at USC took to the streets last night and shut down the 101 with their petulant display of miffness. Talk about privileged.

 

[credoconsolans]

Except Trump supporters aren't desperate. They're upset they're not getting their way. They're upset that they're losing their privileged position in society.

:laughing-smiley-014 The snowflakes at USC took to the streets last night and shut down the 101 with their petulant display of miffness. Talk about privileged.

A demonstration?

You're comparing that to putting an idiot in the White House?

 

[TSwizzle]

:laughing-smiley-014 The snowflakes at USC took to the streets last night and shut down the 101 with their petulant display of miffness. Talk about privileged.

A demonstration?

You're comparing that to putting an idiot in the White House?

You really do hate the plebs don't you ?

 

[Trausti]

Before I say this understand that I do not mean to draw unreasonable comparisons to the man as I feel that's going too far, but with that all said:

I doubt very many people could imagine Hitler coming to power under relatively similar circumstances what with his big promises of prosperity for the german people.

I don't draw this comparison to suggest Trump is a Nazi, I do it to showcase that when people are pushed to desperation, they will take drastic actions to secure their future.

Except Trump supporters aren't desperate. They're upset they're not getting their way. They're upset that they're losing their privileged position in society. They're upset that their religion no longer dominates. They're upset that their education level no longer guarantees them a steady good, paying job (it never did. Unions did that for them).

Desperate? Hardly. Whining, armchair martyrs more like.

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He won the electoral college. The people (popular vote) did not want him.

Er, you're referring to Hillary?

Please explain how you think this fits Hillary.

So what where were you for the last few months?

Reading how you were corrected for each criticism. And here you are again, pretending your criticisms weren't already owned.

Wut? I guess, unlike you, I didn't view Hillary Clinton as an angel sent from heaven to save up from a guy who is literally Hitler. I certainly consider some Clinton supporters as gullible morons. Alot of groupthink there.

Who said I did?

I know the difference between a candidate who is 70% honest and one that's 10% honest. You apparently don't.

I know the difference between a corrupt candidate who'd continue the establishment status quo and the other, with no political corruption experience, who'd burn down that same establishment. When the spouse of a person under criminal investigation by both the FBI and DOJ is able to hold up the attorney general's plane at an airport for, what was said, just a friendly conversation, I do not feel such conduct should be ignored or rewarded. But we differ there, I guess.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The fucking status quo wasn't that bad. 8 years ago, 500k were losing jobs a month! People voted to keep Muslims out and to rebuild factories in the US.

Trump will bring back manufacturing!*

*For white collar college boys with programming degrees.

No. Those jobs will go to H1-Bs.

 

[LordKiran]

Trump will bring back manufacturing!*

*For white collar college boys with programming degrees.

No. Those jobs will go to H1-Bs.

In either case my point is clear. There will be no saving the rust belt, the only jobs many of them will be qualified for is janitorial services.

 

[zorq]

Who said I did?

I know the difference between a candidate who is 70% honest and one that's 10% honest. You apparently don't.

I know the difference between a corrupt candidate who'd continue the establishment status quo and the other, with no political corruption experience, who'd burn down that same establishment.

But what can we expect him to build in it's place? A bankrupt casino?

 

[credoconsolans]

Except Trump supporters aren't desperate. They're upset they're not getting their way. They're upset that they're losing their privileged position in society. They're upset that their religion no longer dominates. They're upset that their education level no longer guarantees them a steady good, paying job (it never did. Unions did that for them).

Desperate? Hardly. Whining, armchair martyrs more like.

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He won the electoral college. The people (popular vote) did not want him.

Er, you're referring to Hillary?

Please explain how you think this fits Hillary.

So what where were you for the last few months?

Reading how you were corrected for each criticism. And here you are again, pretending your criticisms weren't already owned.

Wut? I guess, unlike you, I didn't view Hillary Clinton as an angel sent from heaven to save up from a guy who is literally Hitler. I certainly consider some Clinton supporters as gullible morons. Alot of groupthink there.

Who said I did?

I know the difference between a candidate who is 70% honest and one that's 10% honest. You apparently don't.

I know the difference between a corrupt candidate who'd continue the establishment status quo and the other, with no political corruption experience, who'd burn down that same establishment. When the spouse of a person under criminal investigation by both the FBI and DOJ is able to hold up the attorney general's plane at an airport for, what was said, just a friendly conversation, I do not feel such conduct should be ignored or rewarded. But we differ there, I guess.

Oh, Trump's corrupt, but that's OK as long as it's not political corruption, right?

Trump is not going to burn down anything. He's a rich businessman. He's not going to do ANYthing that lessens his profit margins. OMG, did you really think Trump is some sort of People's Robin Hood? Living in a penthouse, in a hotel he owns, riding limos to work?!?!? Wow. Unbelievable.

Since when is a spouse responsible for what their other spouse does?

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Except Trump supporters aren't desperate. They're upset they're not getting their way. They're upset that they're losing their privileged position in society. They're upset that their religion no longer dominates. They're upset that their education level no longer guarantees them a steady good, paying job (it never did. Unions did that for them).

Desperate? Hardly. Whining, armchair martyrs more like.

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He won the electoral college. The people (popular vote) did not want him.

Er, you're referring to Hillary?

Please explain how you think this fits Hillary.

So what where were you for the last few months?

Reading how you were corrected for each criticism. And here you are again, pretending your criticisms weren't already owned.

Wut? I guess, unlike you, I didn't view Hillary Clinton as an angel sent from heaven to save up from a guy who is literally Hitler. I certainly consider some Clinton supporters as gullible morons. Alot of groupthink there.

Who said I did?

I know the difference between a candidate who is 70% honest and one that's 10% honest. You apparently don't.

I know the difference between a corrupt candidate who'd continue the establishment status quo and the other, with no political corruption experience, who'd burn down that same establishment. When the spouse of a person under criminal investigation by both the FBI and DOJ is able to hold up the attorney general's plane at an airport for, what was said, just a friendly conversation, I do not feel such conduct should be ignored or rewarded. But we differ there, I guess.

There are pictures of Trump wining and dining with Hillary Clinton. If that's not proof of his "political corruption experience" then I don't know what is. She was somewhat corrupted by legal bribery from The Man, but he is The Man. He decided to cut out the middle guys and rule directly without compromise or other interests getting in the way.

 

[fast]

They got conned by a man who's not actually going to help them.

That's not accurate. They got conned, and he is mistaken about some things, but he's going to help, and the positives will outweigh the negatives. If I want to help you but can't unless i'm in a position to, then there's no need to con anyone unless it's necessary for being in the position to help.

Deception through portrayed perception has the unfortunate effect of misleading even the exceptionally bright. Don't let his ignorance undermine your judgement. He will ultimately prevail as being an agent for bringing about snowballing change amidst stuck in the mud gridlock. It's not going to look pretty, and if you rely on reason alone to justify a change in opinion, you're gonna have to step back and consider the possibility that while some things are just as they appear, some things beneath the rock are not what you might otherwise expect to find when you turn it over.

It's not unreasonable to not adapt or modify your judgement until new evidence is clearly in sight, but it's not luck nor faith alone (and so not just some lucky guess) of those extreme few that can (while embracing reason) see through the fog that allows for your position to be mistaken.

 

[credoconsolans]

They got conned by a man who's not actually going to help them.

That's not accurate. They got conned, and he is mistaken about some things, but he's going to help, and the positives will outweigh the negatives. If I want to help you but can't unless i'm in a position to, then there's no need to con anyone unless it's necessary for being in the position to help.

Deception through portrayed perception has the unfortunate effect of misleading even the exceptionally bright. Don't let his ignorance undermine your judgement. He will ultimately prevail as being an agent for bringing about snowballing change amidst stuck in the mud gridlock. It's not going to look pretty, and if you rely on reason alone to justify a change in opinion, you're gonna have to step back and consider the possibility that while some things are just as they appear, some things beneath the rock are not what you might otherwise expect to find when you turn it over.

It's not unreasonable to not adapt or modify your judgement until new evidence is clearly in sight, but it's not luck nor faith alone (and so not just some lucky guess) of those extreme few that can (while embracing reason) see through the fog that allows for your position to be mistaken.

If Trump was really interested in helping the American people, he wouldn't still have his clothes line being made in Thailand and China.

Call me crazy but somehow that smacks of insincerity.