And Now, The Missouri Lt. Gov. on the Topic of Justice.

[NobleSavage]

Regardless, it is a non-issue and I'm all out.

The most reasonable thing I've read in this thread.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Yes, it was a very niggardly statement on his part. By "niggardly", I of course mean "racist against black people" and I'm not using one of the actual definitions of the word.

It is an obscure word and isn't particularly used much in common conversation. He could have said the same thing without even referring to "Anglo-American civilization".

Or he could be a graduate of a top-ranked law school who knows what words pertaining to the law mean and who uses them properly.

 

[NobleSavage]

If you are offended by what Kinder said, why not send his office a nice little letter stating, "Although I'm sure you are not a racist and in the speech you gave on Aug 19th you didn't intend to come off as a racist; howsoever, for some of us not living in Jefferson City the phrase 'Ango American' comes off a little tone deaf. Kinder would probably read it and think, "damn your right".

Instead a bunch of people get offended. The majority of whites in MO get sick of hearing about some minority's hurt egos and then the problem just escalates.

This is one of the problems we have in America... the right-wing's insistence that they and only they have the right to be offended. They actually get offended when other people are offended.

And the left gets offended when the right is offended by the left being offended. And it never stops. It's like two kids pushing each other in the hall, "you stop it, no you stop it, no you stop it..." Some adult needs to step in and calm this shit down.

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It is an obscure word and isn't particularly used much in common conversation. He could have said the same thing without even referring to "Anglo-American civilization".

Or he could be a graduate of a top-ranked law school who knows what words pertaining to the law mean and who uses them properly.

I'm a graduate of a shit-ranked law school and I remember the term from my first class in Contracts.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

It is an obscure word and isn't particularly used much in common conversation. He could have said the same thing without even referring to "Anglo-American civilization".

Or he could be a graduate of a top-ranked law school who knows what words pertaining to the law mean and who uses them properly.

Who was the audience? A bunch of lawyers or the populace in general?

This is one of the problems we have in America... the right-wing's insistence that they and only they have the right to be offended. They actually get offended when other people are offended.

And the left gets offended when the right is offended by the left being offended. And it never stops.

Not really.

It's like two kids pushing each other in the hall, "you stop it, no you stop it, no you stop it..." Some adult needs to step in and calm this shit down.

Well, an adult (black guy) from the Highway Patrol did step in, helped to calm things, but then the cops of Ferguson (white guys) cut the legs out from under him. Racism may not be behind this, but from the face of it, it really looks bad. When people ignore that things have context, even unintended context, that is when miscommunications happen.

 

[NobleSavage]

From another forum I'm visit:

We are making money from this FERGERSON saga right now, I am not going to tell you how, but that is ok, because it will probably only last few a few weeks, In a few weeks from now, it will all die down.

 

[EricK]

What systems of jurisprudence exist within The Americas, and what terms are generally used to differentiate them?

 

[laughing dog]

It is an obscure word and isn't particularly used much in common conversation. He could have said the same thing without even referring to "Anglo-American civilization".

Or he could be a graduate of a top-ranked law school who knows what words pertaining to the law mean and who uses them properly.

Apparently Kinder isn't the only person with a tin ear who missed the point. Accomplished politicians speak with their audience in mind. Do you really think that anyone thought that this would be resolved using Sharia law?

 

[Shadowy Man]

At first read I thought that people were being offended by the tone-deaf nature of this statement: "We let the justice system work it out."

 

[PyramidHead]

At first read I thought that people were being offended by the tone-deaf nature of this statement: "We let the justice system work it out."

Yeah, and "justice isn't done in the streets." Except when an officer plays judge, jury, and executioner on an unarmed man, you mean?

 

[NobleSavage]

Or he could be a graduate of a top-ranked law school who knows what words pertaining to the law mean and who uses them properly.

Apparently Kinder isn't the only person with a tin ear who missed the point. Accomplished politicians speak with their audience in mind. Do you really think that anyone thought that this would be resolved using Sharia law?

I wouldn't give Kinder that much credit.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Or he could be a graduate of a top-ranked law school who knows what words pertaining to the law mean and who uses them properly.

Apparently Kinder isn't the only person with a tin ear who missed the point. Accomplished politicians speak with their audience in mind. Do you really think that anyone thought that this would be resolved using Sharia law?

So ... your issue with him is that he didn't speak exactly like you feel the Platonic Ideal of a politician would? Maybe he talked like himself or something?

 

[ksen]

My issue with him is that he's an idiot that thought using terms like "anglo" would help diffuse a race fueled situation.

 

[laughing dog]

Apparently Kinder isn't the only person with a tin ear who missed the point. Accomplished politicians speak with their audience in mind. Do you really think that anyone thought that this would be resolved using Sharia law?

So ... your issue with him is that he didn't speak exactly like you feel the Platonic Ideal of a politician would? Maybe he talked like himself or something?

No. As ksen pointed out, his attempt to diffuse the situation with that wording was doomed to failure.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

My issue with him is that he's an idiot that thought using terms like "anglo" would help diffuse a race fueled situation.

And my issue is that that's kind of a silly position to take. He used a term accurately and that term does not have any kind of racist connotations. A misinterpretation of what he said can be viewed racially, but that's only possible to do by ignoring what he said and pretending that he was saying something else.

There's so fucking many legitimate reasons to be disgusted by the actions of members of the Missouri government in regards to this situation that people spending a moment being annoyed due to their own lack of reading comprehension as opposed to what someone is actually saying and doing.

 

[AthenaAwakened]

My issue with him is that he's an idiot that thought using terms like "anglo" would help diffuse a race fueled situation.

And my issue is that that's kind of a silly position to take. He used a term accurately and that term does not have any kind of racist connotations.

Well, uh, actually ...

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/

Uses Anglo-American quite alot as do most if not all US based white supremacy websites and publications. And they are not using it to pay homage to the British legal system either.

A misinterpretation of what he said can be viewed racially, but that's only possible to do by ignoring what he said and pretending that he was saying something else.

There's so fucking many legitimate reasons to be disgusted by the actions of members of the Missouri government in regards to this situation that people spending a moment being annoyed due to their own lack of reading comprehension as opposed to what someone is actually saying and doing.

people who are concerned are not the ones lacking comprehension.

 

[Rhea]

My issue with him is that he's an idiot that thought using terms like "anglo" would help diffuse a race fueled situation.

And my issue is that that's kind of a silly position to take. He used a term accurately and that term does not have any kind of racist connotations.

I disagree with you completely, Tom. "Anglo-American civilization" has a shitpotful of racial connotations, especially when used as contrast against what is happening "in the streets." I do not agree at all with your premise that this is harmless unimportant language that no one can reasonably think is meaningful in the racial context of the situation.


I see that you think it is not meaningful, but I think reasonable people can disagree. And reasonable people can reasonably consider this language inciteful rather than soothing.

 

[ksen]

My issue with him is that he's an idiot that thought using terms like "anglo" would help diffuse a race fueled situation.

And my issue is that that's kind of a silly position to take.

Maybe you're right and that people shouldn't take exception to this guy telling black afro people to act more like white anglo people. I mean that's a perfectly reasonable stance to take I guess.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

people who are concerned are not the ones lacking comprehension.

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree. I think what he said was fine and you think he should have been more of a niggard when choosing his words.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

And my issue is that that's kind of a silly position to take.

Maybe you're right and that people shouldn't take exception to this guy telling black afro people to act more like white anglo people. I mean that's a perfectly reasonable stance to take I guess.

No, they shouldn't take exception to his saying that because he didn't say anything like that. They also shouldn't be offended by his call to have the police whip some manners into the dirty negroes because he didn't say anything like that either.

 

[ksen]

I accept your apology.