Koyaanisqatsi
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We're not. JP is trolling, because he evidently thinks that's funny, much like a village idiot.
I was pointing out that Sanders is a fraud; not a Democrat; significantly hurt the Democratic party and continues to do so, imo; and a very good argument can be made that it was his fault entirely for Trump being in the WH. Had he got out in March when it was all over for him, he wouldn't have become weaponized by the Russians or the GOP against Hillary; Hillary could have put all of her focus on countering Trump and the hundreds of millions of dollars wasted on the primary civil war would have gone toward her campaign against Trump instead and the effects of the Russian cyberwarfare would likely have been nullified or otherwise countered.
All of which is to say that there are excellent reasons why people may be perceiving a certain bias against him. He should not have run as a Dem in 2016 and he certainly should not be running as a Dem now, but that doesn't ever seem to get addressed by any of his supporters. He's just assumed to have some sort of inviolate right to be crowned king of the Democrats.
Yes, well, the reasons why that may have been the case are precisely why examining both the Russians and the Sanders campaign would actually help us.
It didn't happen in a vaccuum and judging from the fact that Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by millions--and millions more noted their preference for her, but for various non-partisan reasons didn't vote--and the fact that she holds the record for third largest raw vote of ANY US President--having garnered almost the same number as Obama, the record holder, in 2012, the reasons behind the lower turnout are likewise important.
And it wasn't because people were "tired" of the Clintons, at least not organically. It was because the Russians specifically targeted minorities--young black males in particular--to suppress their voter turnout while at the same time targeting poorly educated white males in rural states to boost theirs.
And that's exactly what resulted in Trump in the WH by the tiniest of voter differentials and in percentages that all of the studies regarding such an information warfare tactic prove out.
Which in turn means, and this is the most important part, it wouldn't matter who the candidate we choose, the exact same tactics will effect the outcome in the same manner. Worse now since the Trump occupation has done exactly nothing to stop the Russians, who have only exponentially increased their reach and subsequently their ability to influence the outcome.
Iow, if their operation were able to effect a .4% differential three years ago, today they may be able to effect a 4-5% or more, which could be more than enough to tip the scales again and Trump knows it.
I know we all having Dunning Kruger when it comes to denying the impact of subconscious influencing--I'm never influenced by any advertising or "clandestine" suggestions, peshaw!--but the proof exists as I have fairly exhaustively demonstrated in my other thread (and some here).
Again, just ONE Facebook post was able to motivate some 340,000 voters--out of just 61 million reached--to actually get out and vote. That's 340,000 votes that otherwise would NOT have been counted and all because of ONE Facebook post that they did not know was fake (iow, it was organic, or "clandestine").
Accounting for various other non-partisan reasons (such as gerrymandering and the massive suppression of black voters that has been openly undertaken by Republicans in power since Obama won in 2008, and precisely for these reasons), WaPo analysts back in 2017 studied the 2016 election results by race and found the following percentages:
Those percentages are almost exactly what the studies I've posted on "clandestine" social media influence prove out and exactly what would account for Trump in the WH alone.
And, again, the Russian operation hasn't stopped. It has only grown more and more influential. And now they evidently have millions of idiots' pictures through the "FaceApp" trend that is the latest social media darling.
Because Trump has done nothing and because Americans are so fucking stupid it hurts, Russia now owns access to more than 150 million people's faces and names. Which means they can now steal the identity of all of those people and make YOU think that you are interacting with your own fucking brother or sister or best friend, etc . Here's the TOS:
So, guess how many of the millions of people who just gave Putin those rights will not only have their identity stolen (real and cyber) for the ongoing war we are STILL fighting, but no one in America seems to think is an actual war just because there aren't any bombs?
They could also, of course, use those scans to wreak all kinds of havoc in regard to Voter ID laws, most of which require, yes, a valid PHOTO ID, which can be:
So how many of those millions may also find a brand new shiny photo ID card in the mail some time in the next coming months leading up to the 2020? Perhaps one that looks like a State ID that has a formal letter explaining how their state has implemented a new process and to make it easier for you to vote, bring this new VOTER ID card--with YOUR photo right there staring back at you and looking all official--so that people think their state (or even the Federal government) is trying to make it easier for them to vote?
And when it's presented on election day, guess what will happen? Rejected. And then a whole hassle ensues and millions of Democrat votes (always Democrats) won't get counted.
So, we're not dealing with some casual, oh that only applies to that rabble over there issues here. The 2016 election was the Titanic and we've already hit the iceberg and no one seems to give a shit or comprehend how massive of a clusterfuck this is while Putin also wags Iran's dog.
We're taking on more and more water--exponentially--but because it's not an immediate explosion and instant sinking we don't understand that we're already fucked.
So, that's why.
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